6600gt install problem

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I tried to upgrade from Geforce2 MX 100/200 to this XFX GeForce 6600
GT / 128MB DDR3 / AGP 8X / Dual DVI / HDTV (P450-8529). My system
specs are:

Win xp
P4 2.26GHz
1024MB DDR-SDRAM
MoBo: Intel D845EBT
AGP Version 2 4X
Power supply: 300W (3.3V & 5.0V = 200W Max). I am running 2 HD's, a
floppy, CD and DVD drive off this PS. I disconnected an auxiliary fan
and connected the power to the card.

I did the uninstall of the old driver (44.03) but did not use a Driver
Cleaner. I used the Control Panel Uninstall and allowed the reboot
after the uninstall. What I got when I powered up was:

The User Log In screen was scrambled. I could detect (barely) the
icons, but the screen was divided into four sectors with the tob and
botton positioned at the center. Jibberish. Horizontal scramble.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Can you boot into safe mode?


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"Bmchan" <bmchan@spammmmcharter.net> wrote in message
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>I tried to upgrade from Geforce2 MX 100/200 to this XFX GeForce 6600
> P4 2.26GHz
> 1024MB DDR-SDRAM
> MoBo: Intel D845EBT
> AGP Version 2 4X
> Power supply: 300W (3.3V & 5.0V = 200W Max). I am running 2 HD's, a
> floppy, CD and DVD drive off this PS. I disconnected an auxiliary fan
> and connected the power to the card.

My thought is that your problems are 100% related to a woefully inadequate
power supply. Get a decent brand name (like Antec) 350W-450W unit. On a
second note, you'll notice a massive speed difference when you do get a
decent power supply, but your 6600GT is going to be held back a lot by that
2.26Ghz P4.
 

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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:35:45 -0700, "Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there>
wrote:

>Can you boot into safe mode?

Thanks everyone.

I did a system restore and that brought me back to the Geforce driver.
No problem there.
 

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All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you had
to do was update the driver.
If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
drivers, but this is not the case for you.
You made a simple job ... difficult!

Cheers
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"Sharp" <Sharp@SharpAddress.com> wrote in message
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> All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
> Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you had
> to do was update the driver.
> If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
> drivers, but this is not the case for you.
> You made a simple job ... difficult!
>
> Cheers
> Sharp

No, they don't. You might download one driver installation utility for all
GF cards under XP, but within the installation files are different driver
files specific to every card (at the very least there's different ones for
each generation of card.) There's a HUGE difference between his old GF2 MX
and the 6600GT. To think they'd use the same driver is ludicrous.

Even if you're updating the drivers for the same card it's always best to
uninstall the old version first. Especially if you've been trying out beta
drivers.

RF
 

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After giving this some thought, it's possible that the PSU may be
underpowered for this card. However, in saying that, it is only a 6600GT
and I just did a quick check around the net and found that XFX recommend as
a minimum for this card a 300W PSU.

So in theory at least, you should be OK. You do have a few items powered of
that PSU so my recommendations in the long term are that you should upgrade
to a larger more powerful unit. I personally like Enermax supplies. I have
seen a number of Antec supplies give trouble or go bellyup in some way.

The problem you describe could be a number of things including the above but
the first thing I would try to isolate is that you have removed any trace of
the existing driver. 44.03 Detonators won't be compatible with a 6600GT so
that may explain some of your issues. Try rebooting to a last known good
config. and try to remove any trace of the exisitng driver. You may need to
reinstall the GF2 just to get the system up and running in the short term.
Make sure you have a new more up to date set of drivers on hand ready for
installation if you can get it booted OK with the new 6600GT installed.
Failing all that, maybe a reformat of your HDD and a fresh clean install of
Win XP and newer up to date drivers is the answer. It's a proven solution
finder if software and/or drivers are giving you problems. It is however,
time consuming.

Any thought of getting a speed increase out of a higher powered PSU is utter
nonsense. The only thing a higher powered PSU will give you is more
stability and that will only be if your original PSU wasn't supplying enough
clean juice to your system to begin with. Higher powered PSU's are required
for more demanding hardware like the higher end Nvidia's 6800 and ATI X800
series video cards and the faster processors from Intel and AMD. They can
also be of benefit if you want to overclock components as this requires more
power to do successfully. So don't think by buying a new 450W PSU, your
going to magically get an extra 10-20FPSs in your favourite games. It just
won't happen.

I hope this is of some benefit to you.


"Augustus" <augustus@wrtt.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bmchan" <bmchan@spammmmcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:ct1m61dnc9ttri81chocf6okhic6ort0j1@4ax.com...
>>I tried to upgrade from Geforce2 MX 100/200 to this XFX GeForce 6600
>> P4 2.26GHz
>> 1024MB DDR-SDRAM
>> MoBo: Intel D845EBT
>> AGP Version 2 4X
>> Power supply: 300W (3.3V & 5.0V = 200W Max). I am running 2 HD's, a
>> floppy, CD and DVD drive off this PS. I disconnected an auxiliary fan
>> and connected the power to the card.
>
> My thought is that your problems are 100% related to a woefully inadequate
> power supply. Get a decent brand name (like Antec) 350W-450W unit. On a
> second note, you'll notice a massive speed difference when you do get a
> decent power supply, but your 6600GT is going to be held back a lot by
> that 2.26Ghz P4.
>
 
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In article <d4ffg5$6sm$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au>, Bradley says...
> After giving this some thought, it's possible that the PSU may be
> underpowered for this card. However, in saying that, it is only a 6600GT
> and I just did a quick check around the net and found that XFX recommend as
> a minimum for this card a 300W PSU.
>
THat's 300W decent branded, not 300W mickey mouse. World of difference.


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> > All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
> > Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you
had
> > to do was update the driver.
> > If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
> > drivers, but this is not the case for you.
> > You made a simple job ... difficult!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Sharp
>
> No, they don't. You might download one driver installation utility for
all
> GF cards under XP, but within the installation files are different driver
> files specific to every card (at the very least there's different ones for
> each generation of card.) There's a HUGE difference between his old GF2
MX
> and the 6600GT. To think they'd use the same driver is ludicrous.

Thats incorrect.
It is the same driver that supports a whole range of video cards.
For example, Nvidia 71.89 driver supports Geforce MX -> 6800.
Having different drivers for every possible video card is what is really
ludicrous.

> Even if you're updating the drivers for the same card it's always best to
> uninstall the old version first. Especially if you've been trying out
beta
> drivers.

By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
updating.
Updating old drivers is more simple, and usually does not cause any
problems.
Again, if your moving from ATI to Nvidia then I would suggest removing the
old drivers.

Cheers
Sharp
 
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:43:25 -0400, Bmchan <bmchan@spammmmcharter.net> wrote:

>I tried to upgrade from Geforce2 MX 100/200 to this XFX GeForce 6600
>GT / 128MB DDR3 / AGP 8X / Dual DVI / HDTV (P450-8529). My system
>specs are:
>
>Win xp
>P4 2.26GHz
>1024MB DDR-SDRAM
>MoBo: Intel D845EBT
>AGP Version 2 4X
>Power supply: 300W (3.3V & 5.0V = 200W Max). I am running 2 HD's, a
>floppy, CD and DVD drive off this PS. I disconnected an auxiliary fan
>and connected the power to the card.
>
>I did the uninstall of the old driver (44.03) but did not use a Driver
>Cleaner. I used the Control Panel Uninstall and allowed the reboot
>after the uninstall. What I got when I powered up was:
>
>The User Log In screen was scrambled. I could detect (barely) the
>icons, but the screen was divided into four sectors with the tob and
>botton positioned at the center. Jibberish. Horizontal scramble.
>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.



Yes a better PSU
 
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"Sharp" <Sharp@SharpAddress.com> wrote
> By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
> updating.
> Updating old drivers is more simple, and usually does not cause any
> problems.

nvidia says to uninstall the old ones.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html

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it's all so ludicrous ??
Yikes !!
Hard times ...

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