Problem with 6800GT crashing - causes?

[ziggy]

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Hello,

I have had a BFG 6800GT for a couple of months now and it has been
running perfectly at full, maximum screen settings (2048x1536x32).
in BFV.

Yesterday, after less than 1 hours play, it crashed to a "crazy
paving" type screen and then the monitor went to "no signal". Reboot
did nothing, but the sytem came back up after switch off and on.

This scenario now keps reoccurring after 30 - 45 minutes of play. The
PC runs fine for protracted periods (hours) outside of gameplay.

The card is not run overclocked.

Suggestions as to the problem- is it likely to be temperature ? What
software can I use to monitor the cards temp? Solutions?

Thanks for any help.

Regards.

 

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"Ziggy" <No-one@nowhere.notime> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have had a BFG 6800GT for a couple of months now and it has been
> running perfectly at full, maximum screen settings (2048x1536x32).
> in BFV.
>
> Yesterday, after less than 1 hours play, it crashed to a "crazy
> paving" type screen and then the monitor went to "no signal". Reboot
> did nothing, but the sytem came back up after switch off and on.
>
> This scenario now keps reoccurring after 30 - 45 minutes of play. The
> PC runs fine for protracted periods (hours) outside of gameplay.
>
> The card is not run overclocked.
>
> Suggestions as to the problem- is it likely to be temperature ? What
> software can I use to monitor the cards temp? Solutions?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Regards.

Since it's been working fine, check and see if the cards fan is still
running. If it is, then think about your Power Supply. Since the
release of the FX5900 and ATI 9800 Pro types with the molex connector,
this PSU thing is a critical thing that can't be overlooked. It's hit
me twice now. For me, the Sweet Spot starts at Antec TruPower 430 watt
and goes up from that size in a quality PSU.

McG.

 

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In article <r6e97193c7hkbibqm2rich3aacl0relg52@4ax.com>, Ziggy says...
> Hello,
>
> I have had a BFG 6800GT for a couple of months now and it has been
> running perfectly at full, maximum screen settings (2048x1536x32).
> in BFV.
>
> Yesterday, after less than 1 hours play, it crashed to a "crazy
> paving" type screen and then the monitor went to "no signal". Reboot
> did nothing, but the sytem came back up after switch off and on.
>
> This scenario now keps reoccurring after 30 - 45 minutes of play. The
> PC runs fine for protracted periods (hours) outside of gameplay.
>
> The card is not run overclocked.
>
> Suggestions as to the problem- is it likely to be temperature ? What
> software can I use to monitor the cards temp? Solutions?
>
Power supply. Been there myself with a 6600GT. PSU works on the fringe
of failing for ages then packs up.


--
Conor

"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.

 

[BigJim]

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well if you think it is a heat problem open the case and use an external fan
to help cooling,
or as everyone else suggested look at the power supply. If it is the PS try
disconnecting everything
you can just to keep the system running and then see what happens. Like
disconnecting a backup HD or/and extra cdrom/dvd drives, extra case fans
etc...
"Ziggy" <No-one@nowhere.notime> wrote in message
news:r6e97193c7hkbibqm2rich3aacl0relg52@4ax.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have had a BFG 6800GT for a couple of months now and it has been
> running perfectly at full, maximum screen settings (2048x1536x32).
> in BFV.
>
> Yesterday, after less than 1 hours play, it crashed to a "crazy
> paving" type screen and then the monitor went to "no signal". Reboot
> did nothing, but the sytem came back up after switch off and on.
>
> This scenario now keps reoccurring after 30 - 45 minutes of play. The
> PC runs fine for protracted periods (hours) outside of gameplay.
>
> The card is not run overclocked.
>
> Suggestions as to the problem- is it likely to be temperature ? What
> software can I use to monitor the cards temp? Solutions?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Regards.

 

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On Sun, 01 May 2005 12:15:00 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Since it's been working fine, check and see if the cards fan is still
>running. If it is, then think about your Power Supply. Since the
>release of the FX5900 and ATI 9800 Pro types with the molex connector,
>this PSU thing is a critical thing that can't be overlooked. It's hit
>me twice now. For me, the Sweet Spot starts at Antec TruPower 430 watt
>and goes up from that size in a quality PSU.


Thanks to Conor and yourself. I had thought about the PSU but it is
an Enermax EG465P so should have enough juice. I had also thought
about the Molex connector itself - any problems known regarding
these?

Regards.

 

[rms]

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All good suggestions. Mine is to disassemble the card's fan housing and
clean out all the dust. This dust can raise temps by a good 5C. Do the
same to the cpu/northbridge/powersupply also.

Oil the fans with Inox spray lube also.

rms

 

[Guest]

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At the extreme settings you are driving that video card at, and the fact
that it works for 45 minutes, YES you are overheating it. Not good for a
long life of the card.

--
DaveW



"Ziggy" <No-one@nowhere.notime> wrote in message
news:r6e97193c7hkbibqm2rich3aacl0relg52@4ax.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have had a BFG 6800GT for a couple of months now and it has been
> running perfectly at full, maximum screen settings (2048x1536x32).
> in BFV.
>
> Yesterday, after less than 1 hours play, it crashed to a "crazy
> paving" type screen and then the monitor went to "no signal". Reboot
> did nothing, but the sytem came back up after switch off and on.
>
> This scenario now keps reoccurring after 30 - 45 minutes of play. The
> PC runs fine for protracted periods (hours) outside of gameplay.
>
> The card is not run overclocked.
>
> Suggestions as to the problem- is it likely to be temperature ? What
> software can I use to monitor the cards temp? Solutions?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Regards.

 

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On Sun, 1 May 2005 16:37:14 -0700, "DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote:

>At the extreme settings you are driving that video card at, and the fact
>that it works for 45 minutes, YES you are overheating it. Not good for a
>long life of the card.

Well I have dropped the settings 1024x768x32 and will see what
happens.

BTW, what temp should this card ideally be running at?

Regards.

 

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"Ziggy" <No-one@nowhere.notime> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 May 2005 16:37:14 -0700, "DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote:
>
>> At the extreme settings you are driving that video card at, and the
>> fact that it works for 45 minutes, YES you are overheating it. Not
>> good for a long life of the card.
>
> Well I have dropped the settings 1024x768x32 and will see what
> happens.
>
> BTW, what temp should this card ideally be running at?
>
> Regards.

50C-56C, basically anything in the Green. Core slowdown threshold is
120C, but I'd expect memory problems long before that is reached.
McG.

 

[rms]

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> 50C-56C, basically anything in the Green. Core slowdown threshold is
> 120C, but I'd expect memory problems long before that is reached.
> McG.

56C under idle maybe, but under full 3D load, you'll go beyond 70C with
a stock cooler. Download Rivatuner and use the hardware monitoring feature
to watch temps. On some cards you can actually see it throttle back clocks
when it gets too hot.

rms

 

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"rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net> wrote in message
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>> 50C-56C, basically anything in the Green. Core slowdown threshold is
>> 120C, but I'd expect memory problems long before that is reached.
>> McG.
>
> 56C under idle maybe, but under full 3D load, you'll go beyond 70C
> with a stock cooler. Download Rivatuner and use the hardware
> monitoring feature to watch temps. On some cards you can actually
> see it throttle back clocks when it gets too hot.
>
> rms

Ah. Right. What I was getting at is that the core has the temp
control, not the vid cards DDR3. When those chips get too hot you'll
see some flakiness, artifacting. I'd think so anyway. I've found also
that my system ram will actually get too hot playing games quicker than
the vid card or CPU. I'll be putting a seperate 'blower' on the DIMMS
pretty quick.

I'll check my own 6800GT with Rivatuner. Not sure what it's actually
doing under a 3D load like HL2DM in a busy server
McG.

 

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On Mon, 02 May 2005 23:54:29 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

[SNIP]

Thanks for the info and advice. At the lower settings, the problem
has not reoccurred so far (touch wood) )

Regards.

 

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"Ziggy" <No-one@nowhere.notime> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 May 2005 16:37:14 -0700, "DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote:
> BTW, what temp should this card ideally be running at?

I have:
BFG 6800 GT OC with the BFG dual-fan cooler GPU
SOYO P4X400 Ultra MB
P4 2.53, 533 CPU

and my temps:

From nVidia monitor (RivaTuner):
GPU Max (Full-load): 90
GPU Min (Idle): 71-72

Ambient Max: 69
Ambient Min: 54

From Winbond monitor:
Chasis idle: 41
CPU idle: 51-53