6600gt issue

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All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT is
causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the system locks,
and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens whether oc'ed or not, in
3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably anything else if I had time to try them
out.

I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card, anyone
concur?

Martin
(Ath64 3000+, 1024Mb, 120Gb+40Gb, BFG6600GT, WinXP)

 

[Andrew]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:45 +0100, "Martin Francis"
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:

>All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT is
>causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the system locks,
>and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens whether oc'ed or not, in
>3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably anything else if I had time to try them
>out.
>
>I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card, anyone
>concur?

Probably is, but could be the CPU or the video card. What are the CPU
and GPU temperatures when it crashes? Open up the case and get a
desktop fan blowing in to see if that helps.
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[wookie]

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Dust bunnies and heat can cause the problem you describe .. you can also try
defragging your HD ... I don't know how you've partitioned your computer/HD
... but defrag your C Drive and whatever drive you have your game one.


"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT is
> causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the system locks,
> and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens whether oc'ed or not, in
> 3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably anything else if I had time to try
> them out.
>
> I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card, anyone
> concur?
>
> Martin
> (Ath64 3000+, 1024Mb, 120Gb+40Gb, BFG6600GT, WinXP)
>

 

[BigJim]

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you may want to check your power supply
"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT is
> causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the system locks,
> and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens whether oc'ed or not, in
> 3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably anything else if I had time to try
> them out.
>
> I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card, anyone
> concur?
>
> Martin
> (Ath64 3000+, 1024Mb, 120Gb+40Gb, BFG6600GT, WinXP)
>

 

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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:45 +0100, "Martin Francis"
> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT is
>>causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the system locks,
>>and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens whether oc'ed or not, in
>>3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably anything else if I had time to try
>>them
>>out.
>>
>>I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card, anyone
>>concur?
>
> Probably is, but could be the CPU or the video card. What are the CPU
> and GPU temperatures when it crashes? Open up the case and get a
> desktop fan blowing in to see if that helps.

Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no higher
than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the card
is hot to the touch after a crash.

Martin

 

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"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don't have any external method of checking vga temp,

Download RivaTuner and Cool Bits.

 

[Andrew]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:16:00 +0100, "Martin Francis"
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no higher
>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the card
>is hot to the touch after a crash.

Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.
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>>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
>>higher
>>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the
>>card
>>is hot to the touch after a crash.
>
> Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.
> --

Check the card fan for accumulated dust.

Lord Deckard.

 

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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:16:00 +0100, "Martin Francis"
> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
>>higher
>>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the
>>card
>>is hot to the touch after a crash.
>
> Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.

Okay, just ran Farcry windowed with the control panel in the bg, comp locked
up with CPU at 57degrees and GPU at 65 degrees. Then monitor signal was
lost, then it rebooted.

 

[Andrew]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:48:34 +0100, "Martin Francis"
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Okay, just ran Farcry windowed with the control panel in the bg, comp locked
>up with CPU at 57degrees and GPU at 65 degrees. Then monitor signal was
>lost, then it rebooted.

My GPU is currently at 57 degrees and the machine is just idling on
the desktop. I don't think temperature is your problem. Maybe your PSU
isn't providing enough power. Do you have a power connector properly
plugged into the card?
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:48:34 +0100, "Martin Francis"
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
>news:7ku091dmac98bnfjf4hv8su65kubqhktob@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:16:00 +0100, "Martin Francis"
>> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
>>>higher
>>>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the
>>>card
>>>is hot to the touch after a crash.
>>
>> Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.
>
>Okay, just ran Farcry windowed with the control panel in the bg, comp locked
>up with CPU at 57degrees and GPU at 65 degrees. Then monitor signal was
>lost, then it rebooted.
>

Maybe your case fans need to be checked. Try using your computer with
the side panel removed. My case has 5 fans and with the side panel
removed my temperatures drop about 10C.

Ak

 

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"Alfred Kaufmann" <al@kaufmann.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:48:34 +0100, "Martin Francis"
> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
>>news:7ku091dmac98bnfjf4hv8su65kubqhktob@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:16:00 +0100, "Martin Francis"
>>> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
>>>>higher
>>>>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the
>>>>card
>>>>is hot to the touch after a crash.
>>>
>>> Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.
>>
>>Okay, just ran Farcry windowed with the control panel in the bg, comp
>>locked
>>up with CPU at 57degrees and GPU at 65 degrees. Then monitor signal was
>>lost, then it rebooted.
>>
>
> Maybe your case fans need to be checked. Try using your computer with
> the side panel removed. My case has 5 fans and with the side panel
> removed my temperatures drop about 10C.

Sys temp is 33 degrees, also crashes with side panel off.

 

[Andrew]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:24:51 -0700, "Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:

>Dust bunnies and heat can cause the problem you describe .. you can also try
>defragging your HD ... I don't know how you've partitioned your computer/HD
>.. but defrag your C Drive and whatever drive you have your game one.

If anything a fragmented drive would help the situation by slowing the
CPU down. I can't imagine why you think it would help in this case, a
scandisk may be useful, but a defrag won't achieve anything.
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[wookie]

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Defragging helps the HD run smoother and can clean up spontaneous reboot
problems. Yes a scandisk couldn't hurt either.

"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:24:51 -0700, "Wookie" <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Dust bunnies and heat can cause the problem you describe .. you can also
>>try
>>defragging your HD ... I don't know how you've partitioned your
>>computer/HD
>>.. but defrag your C Drive and whatever drive you have your game one.
>
> If anything a fragmented drive would help the situation by slowing the
> CPU down. I can't imagine why you think it would help in this case, a
> scandisk may be useful, but a defrag won't achieve anything.
> --
> Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
> Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
> please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
> Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

 

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Wookie <Tom@comcast.net> wrote:
> Defragging helps the HD run smoother

Indeed.

> and can clean up spontaneous reboot problems.

Huh? Please explain just how this can happen.

(If anything, defragmenting can *cause* boot problems on some systems, if
either the boot loader or the data the bootloader requires has been moved.
This is especially important if using lilo.)

Regards,
--
*Art

 

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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> My GPU is currently at 57 degrees and the machine is just idling on
> the desktop. I don't think temperature is your problem. Maybe your PSU
> isn't providing enough power. Do you have a power connector properly
> plugged into the card?

Yes. Tried different connectors too. About to try unplugging my second HDD,
see if there's too much drain on my PSU. Tagan 480W should be able to handle
it, though- it has for 3 months previously...

Martin

 

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Martin Francis <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
> news:co31911fi7ur42ndlk13f9ipovf09mehlm@4ax.com...
>> My GPU is currently at 57 degrees and the machine is just idling on
>> the desktop. I don't think temperature is your problem. Maybe your
>> PSU isn't providing enough power. Do you have a power connector
>> properly plugged into the card?
>
> Yes. Tried different connectors too. About to try unplugging my
> second HDD, see if there's too much drain on my PSU. Tagan 480W
> should be able to handle it, though- it has for 3 months previously...

I doubt it's your power supply (although it's an unfamiliar brand, which is
usually a BAD thing for powersupplies), but I have to arrest you on an
assumption here. Note that a previous good record means little in the world
of PSPs. They deteriorate over time, and provide less and less juice --
especially peak power, as the capacitors slowly lose their capacity.
Normally this isn't a problem, as they're usually oversized for their task
to start with. However, if a powersupply delivers *just* enough power
without any problems, you can expect problems just a few months down the
road.

In your case, though, I would first check the slot (AGP or PCIe) card
seating, give the card a thorough blowing with compressed air (don't forget
the fan and the slot), and make sure that no cable has shifted inside the
case, either restricting air flow or touching a component.

You may have to send the card back, but since it's a BFG, there's at least a
halfway decent limited warranty, as they go.

Regards,
--
*Art

 

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"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
> news:co31911fi7ur42ndlk13f9ipovf09mehlm@4ax.com...
>> My GPU is currently at 57 degrees and the machine is just idling on
>> the desktop. I don't think temperature is your problem. Maybe your PSU
>> isn't providing enough power. Do you have a power connector properly
>> plugged into the card?
>
> Yes. Tried different connectors too. About to try unplugging my second
> HDD, see if there's too much drain on my PSU. Tagan 480W should be able to
> handle it, though- it has for 3 months previously...

Hmmm... seems it might have been my CPU overclock...

 

[Andrew]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 16:46:30 +0100, "Martin Francis"
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hmmm... seems it might have been my CPU overclock...

The one you didn't bother mention when you started a thread about
instability?
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I had serious issues with my 5900XT, the system was booting up and the temp
was 72C, i have 4 case fans (one front, one back, two on the side) i checked
the fan on the card and it was ok. Only when i really looked at the fan did
i see that the little airways were totally blocked with dust, i removed the
fan vacumed it and hey presto i now only have a temp of 52c on the card at
system boot.

Rob

"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al@kaufmann.ca> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:48:34 +0100, "Martin Francis"
>> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
>>>news:7ku091dmac98bnfjf4hv8su65kubqhktob@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:16:00 +0100, "Martin Francis"
>>>> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
>>>>>higher
>>>>>than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and most of the
>>>>>card
>>>>>is hot to the touch after a crash.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't it tell you in the NVidia control panel? My 6600GT does.
>>>
>>>Okay, just ran Farcry windowed with the control panel in the bg, comp
>>>locked
>>>up with CPU at 57degrees and GPU at 65 degrees. Then monitor signal was
>>>lost, then it rebooted.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe your case fans need to be checked. Try using your computer with
>> the side panel removed. My case has 5 fans and with the side panel
>> removed my temperatures drop about 10C.
>
> Sys temp is 33 degrees, also crashes with side panel off.
>

 

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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 May 2005 16:46:30 +0100, "Martin Francis"
> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hmmm... seems it might have been my CPU overclock...
>
> The one you didn't bother mention when you started a thread about
> instability?
> --
lol.

Perhaps he should of tried bringing that back to normal first. Some people
eh?

 

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>>
>> Yes. Tried different connectors too. About to try unplugging my
>> second HDD, see if there's too much drain on my PSU. Tagan 480W
>> should be able to handle it, though- it has for 3 months previously...
>
> I doubt it's your power supply (although it's an unfamiliar brand, which
> is
> usually a BAD thing for powersupplies),

They are possibly one of, if not the best PSU makers around. Top rated in
most UK PC mags. I have one of those along with an Antec Neo Power 480W.

 

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From my experience I *was* going to suggest:

[1] Check CPU Heatsink / Fan / Thermal compound doing their job
correctly.

[2] check you have no extreme settings on memory that may be blipping
things out.

[3] check your CPU isn't on extreme settings.

I think if you check [1] you can answer the others

A CPU running at 57 degrees is WAY too hot..... My Athlon XP 3200 Barton
runs nicely at 33 idle 44-47 under heavy load. Make sure your (newer)
chip is properly cooled - overclock means you need to overcool!

Good luck!

Neil.

In message <d6q9gm$1r5$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Martin Francis
<mcsalty@hotmail.com> writes
[snip]
>
>Hmmm... seems it might have been my CPU overclock...
>
>
[Snip]
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Neil J Bundy

 

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"Martin Francis" <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
> news:has091hvg8gg5ajvm0ar1idhf05qrfcjcl@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:45 +0100, "Martin Francis"
>> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All of a sudden, after three months reliable service, my BFG 6600GT
>>> is causing lockups. Everytime I run something 3d-intensive, the
>>> system locks, and pretty soon after shuts down. This happens
>>> whether oc'ed or not, in 3dM05, EQ2, and FarCry and probably
>>> anything else if I had time to try them
>>> out.
>>>
>>> I assume it's an overheating issue and I need to return the card,
>>> anyone concur?
>>
>> Probably is, but could be the CPU or the video card. What are the CPU
>> and GPU temperatures when it crashes? Open up the case and get a
>> desktop fan blowing in to see if that helps.
>
> Don't have any external method of checking vga temp, but cpu goes no
> higher than it does under load when ripping CDs. Just checked, and
> most of the card is hot to the touch after a crash.
>
> Martin

Look to see if the fan is even running!
McG.

 

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"Neil J Bundy" <nospam_bubbleman@neil-bundy.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> From my experience I *was* going to suggest:
>
> [1] Check CPU Heatsink / Fan / Thermal compound doing their job correctly.
>
> [2] check you have no extreme settings on memory that may be blipping
> things out.
>
> [3] check your CPU isn't on extreme settings.
>
> I think if you check [1] you can answer the others
>
> A CPU running at 57 degrees is WAY too hot..... My Athlon XP 3200 Barton
> runs nicely at 33 idle 44-47 under heavy load. Make sure your (newer) chip
> is properly cooled - overclock means you need to overcool!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Neil.
>
> In message <d6q9gm$1r5$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Martin Francis
> <mcsalty@hotmail.com> writes
> [snip]
>>
>>Hmmm... seems it might have been my CPU overclock...
>>
>>
> [Snip]
> --
> Neil J Bundy
57 isn't way too hot. The chips are good to 80c before you have to worry
with meltdowns.