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You really have to hand it to Rockstar for the pedestrian/driver AI.
As I've said before, my new test for a game is, "Can you stand the character
on any corner, and just watch, and be entertained?"
People chasing each other, pulling each other out of cars, whacking each
other, whacking cars with bats and shovels, shooting each other. I saw a
woman the other day just go postal and start chasing people down the street,
firing her gun in the air. Cars slamming into each other, flipping, blowing
up -- on and on. Just stand and watch.
That was somewhat possible in VC, too, but SA has improved it greatly (and
that auto-pilot camera that kicks in after about 60 seconds and follows the
action is outstanding).
Have you seen the homeless guy in SF with the box on his head like a hat,
and the sign that says, "God is playing with us"? I've been playing the
game for months and just now ran into him.
The "gang AI" is excellent. Stop and watch them sometime (someplace like
SF, where they don't just attack you like the Ballas and Vagos do in LS).
In SF, it's common for a gang of four to stand and pass a bottle around
(and/or a cigar). One will spot a babe and run off to ogle her for a moment
(even cross the street), then return to his buddies. They mock-salute a cop
if he passes by. Of course, they try to get CJ to talk -- but don't, unless
you want to fight.
I'm beginning to think the programmers purposely swapped the good/bad
response logic when CJ talks to gang members -- just to burn us. CJ seems
to give belligerent responses when I press the "positive response" button,
and polite ones when I press the "negative response" button. I try to be
nice, and CJ blurts something out that makes them instantly blast the fool!
To me, the people are more fascinating than the vehicles. I wish someone
would make a pedestrian database, like they've done with autos: a picture;
where found; the lines they say for different occasions (and there are MANY
different situations that EACH pedestrian has a whole set of lines for: when
you hit them; hold a gun on them; bump into them; pull them from a car; bump
their car; etc.; etc.). That would be a monumental task -- but look what
some guys have done with the vehicles in the most comprehensive guides!
Even just a "best of the pedestrians" would be cool.
Remember Zeppelin in VC, always hanging around outside Mitch's place? I
wish they had done some of that in SA: unique characters that always hang
around their favorite places.
--cleve
You really have to hand it to Rockstar for the pedestrian/driver AI.
As I've said before, my new test for a game is, "Can you stand the character
on any corner, and just watch, and be entertained?"
People chasing each other, pulling each other out of cars, whacking each
other, whacking cars with bats and shovels, shooting each other. I saw a
woman the other day just go postal and start chasing people down the street,
firing her gun in the air. Cars slamming into each other, flipping, blowing
up -- on and on. Just stand and watch.
That was somewhat possible in VC, too, but SA has improved it greatly (and
that auto-pilot camera that kicks in after about 60 seconds and follows the
action is outstanding).
Have you seen the homeless guy in SF with the box on his head like a hat,
and the sign that says, "God is playing with us"? I've been playing the
game for months and just now ran into him.
The "gang AI" is excellent. Stop and watch them sometime (someplace like
SF, where they don't just attack you like the Ballas and Vagos do in LS).
In SF, it's common for a gang of four to stand and pass a bottle around
(and/or a cigar). One will spot a babe and run off to ogle her for a moment
(even cross the street), then return to his buddies. They mock-salute a cop
if he passes by. Of course, they try to get CJ to talk -- but don't, unless
you want to fight.
I'm beginning to think the programmers purposely swapped the good/bad
response logic when CJ talks to gang members -- just to burn us. CJ seems
to give belligerent responses when I press the "positive response" button,
and polite ones when I press the "negative response" button. I try to be
nice, and CJ blurts something out that makes them instantly blast the fool!
To me, the people are more fascinating than the vehicles. I wish someone
would make a pedestrian database, like they've done with autos: a picture;
where found; the lines they say for different occasions (and there are MANY
different situations that EACH pedestrian has a whole set of lines for: when
you hit them; hold a gun on them; bump into them; pull them from a car; bump
their car; etc.; etc.). That would be a monumental task -- but look what
some guys have done with the vehicles in the most comprehensive guides!
Even just a "best of the pedestrians" would be cool.
Remember Zeppelin in VC, always hanging around outside Mitch's place? I
wish they had done some of that in SA: unique characters that always hang
around their favorite places.
--cleve
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