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These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will
agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression I've
been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?

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Ants wrote:
> I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with non-current
> cards. Anyone else experience the same?

LOL. Riiigghhhht.

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"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> Ants wrote:
> > I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with non-current
> > cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>
> LOL. Riiigghhhht.

ATI used to be bad with driver issues, but they seem to have gotten better
recently. nVidia certainly has been getting sloppy with drivers lately
though.

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Cory Dunkle wrote:
> "twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
> news:QZadnXbBr59cpSPfRVn-gg@bresnan.com...
>> Ants wrote:
>>> I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
>>> non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>>
>> LOL. Riiigghhhht.
>
> ATI used to be bad with driver issues, but they seem to have gotten
> better recently. nVidia certainly has been getting sloppy with
> drivers lately though.

I can't quite agree. But, to render the point moot, I just installed 77.72
on a machine with a 4600 and OGL is A-OK. OP is likely to have some other
issue to work out unrelated to the driver version. Perhaps he didn't
uninstall the old ones first or something like that.

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"Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote in message
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> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid
> big bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the
> unified driver architecture for multiple generations of cards they
> better test the drivers on older products before it gets certified.
> As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will agree, Nvidia has been getting
> sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple of years and I hope this
> isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support their products once a
> new generation comes out. This is the impression I've been getting. I
> don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with non-current
> cards. Anyone else experience the same?

I definitely do, with ATI Catalyst sets and ATI Radeon 9800 Pro! But I
think the 9800 Pro is simply glitchy hardware as the 8500 and 7000 are
fine. I haven't even tried these newest sets on P3-800/Ti4600/98SE. I
can't see a reason to use anything newer than the 61.77 set on that box.
I wonder if the 77.72 will do anything more for my 6800GT?
McG.

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"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
> news:QZadnXbBr59cpSPfRVn-gg@bresnan.com...
>> Ants wrote:
>>> I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
>>> non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>>
>> LOL. Riiigghhhht.
>
> ATI used to be bad with driver issues, but they seem to have gotten
> better recently. nVidia certainly has been getting sloppy with
> drivers lately though.

Actually, I think ATI got sloppy with some of their hardware. Like the
later issues of 9800 Pro.
McG.

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"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> Cory Dunkle wrote:
> > "twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
> > news:QZadnXbBr59cpSPfRVn-gg@bresnan.com...
> >> Ants wrote:
> >>> I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
> >>> non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
> >>
> >> LOL. Riiigghhhht.
> >
> > ATI used to be bad with driver issues, but they seem to have gotten
> > better recently. nVidia certainly has been getting sloppy with
> > drivers lately though.
>
> I can't quite agree. But, to render the point moot, I just installed
77.72
> on a machine with a 4600 and OGL is A-OK. OP is likely to have some other
> issue to work out unrelated to the driver version. Perhaps he didn't
> uninstall the old ones first or something like that.

Check out my post in the _original_ thread about the new drivers and any
issues. The thread subject line is "New Drivers. Official Nvidia 77.72 WHQL
Candidate all platforms". The OP apparently doesn't understand how to look
thorugh the current threads before starting a new one.

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"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>The OP apparently doesn't understand how to look
> thorugh the current threads before starting a new one.
>
>

Now, now, Cory...
Your post did not show up on my server.

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"twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
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> I can't quite agree. But, to render the point moot, I just installed
> 77.72
> on a machine with a 4600 and OGL is A-OK. OP is likely to have some other
> issue to work out unrelated to the driver version. Perhaps he didn't
> uninstall the old ones first or something like that.

Will have to look into it...thx.
Could be time for an OS reinstall perhaps.

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In article <11bsbt06tp00m30@corp.supernews.com>, Ants says...
> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
> architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
> on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will
> agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
> of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
> their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression I've
> been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
> non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>
...only when the clearly displayed instructions regarding disabling AV
software and uninstalling old versions aren't followed.


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In article <11btp9dim2jt153@corp.supernews.com>, Ants says...
> "twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
> news:2oCdnfCujOEC_SPfRVn-sA@bresnan.com...
> > I can't quite agree. But, to render the point moot, I just installed
> > 77.72
> > on a machine with a 4600 and OGL is A-OK. OP is likely to have some other
> > issue to work out unrelated to the driver version. Perhaps he didn't
> > uninstall the old ones first or something like that.
>
> Will have to look into it...thx.
> Could be time for an OS reinstall perhaps.
>
Only if you're new to computers.


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I thought that was common knowledge...

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"Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote in message
news:11bsbt06tp00m30@corp.supernews.com...
> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified
> driver architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the
> drivers on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan
> Lewis will agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the
> last couple of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no
> longer support their products once a new generation comes out. This is the
> impression I've been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with
> ATI's drivers with non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>

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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:30:59 -0600, "Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote:

>These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
>bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
>architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
>on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will
>agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
>of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
>their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression I've
>been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
>non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>



The New drivers break OpenGL, no its because its now V 2.0

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Mmmmm guys i have something im sure most overlooked because its a place
noone thought to look, im a certified tech and looking at the task
manager performance tab in windows xp under commit charge under peak
ram used only for boot up why did it jump from what my system normally
takes as 80 megs peak without opening any programs just the bootup
process to over 400 megs of ram, look at your systems and you will see
what i mean reboot your pc and dont open any programs just open task
manager and performance tab and look at commit charge......i called
Nvidia about this and warned them and they said they would look into it
and they reiterated what i was talking about on there own test
pc's....i uninstalled it.allthough it does release the ram again i dont
trust a driver that takes 400 megs of my ram during the bootup
process.....sorry nvidia....

Tony wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:30:59 -0600, "Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote:
>
> >These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> >bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
> >architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
> >on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will
> >agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
> >of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
> >their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression I've
> >been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
> >non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
> >
>
>
>
> The New drivers break OpenGL, no its because its now V 2.0

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On 26 Jun 2005 22:47:52 -0700, "NnjHotBoy" <nnjhotboy@aol.com> wrote:

>Mmmmm guys i have something im sure most overlooked because its a place
>noone thought to look, im a certified tech and looking at the task
>manager performance tab in windows xp under commit charge under peak
>ram used only for boot up why did it jump from what my system normally
>takes as 80 megs peak without opening any programs just the bootup
>process to over 400 megs of ram, look at your systems and you will see
>what i mean reboot your pc and dont open any programs just open task
>manager and performance tab and look at commit charge......i called
>Nvidia about this and warned them and they said they would look into it
>and they reiterated what i was talking about on there own test
>pc's....i uninstalled it.allthough it does release the ram again i dont
>trust a driver that takes 400 megs of my ram during the bootup
>process.....sorry nvidia....



What version was you using Before..?


>Tony wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:30:59 -0600, "Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote:
>>
>> >These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
>> >bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
>> >architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
>> >on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis will
>> >agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
>> >of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
>> >their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression I've
>> >been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
>> >non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> The New drivers break OpenGL, no its because its now V 2.0

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Ants a écrit :
> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified driver
> architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the drivers
> on older products before it gets certified.

Hugh! The sachem has spoken!
(Can't agree more: the 7x series of drivers just doesn't work with the
Ti4 generation and that's a shame. I too have a ti4600. Yet I'm not
planning on getting an ATI card because there must be other issues.)

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The 77.72 drivers support OpenGL 2.0.

Older apps which don't test the version number correctly ( i.e. are hard
coded to run with version 1.5 ) won't run and will proly produce error
messages, like "Chronicles of Riddick: EFBB" unless you patch it.


"Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote in message
news:11bsbt06tp00m30@corp.supernews.com...
> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified
> driver architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the
> drivers on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan
> Lewis will agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the
> last couple of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no
> longer support their products once a new generation comes out. This is the
> impression I've been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with
> ATI's drivers with non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>

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52.16 in response to TONY .......and i think these guys are still
forgetting the memory issue...... a driver that takes over 400 megs of
ram during the boot-up process for no reason is the REAL problem who
cares about open GL 2.0.

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On 27 Jun 2005 16:24:15 -0700, "NnjHotBoy" <nnjhotboy@aol.com> wrote:

>52.16 in response to TONY .......and i think these guys are still
>forgetting the memory issue...... a driver that takes over 400 megs of
>ram during the boot-up process for no reason is the REAL problem who
>cares about open GL 2.0.



Well some Games need it


71.89 gives the same result as No Nvidia river

77.72 uses some 400 megs, no diver uses 140 megs

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On 27 Jun 2005 16:24:15 -0700, "NnjHotBoy" <nnjhotboy@aol.com> wrote:

>52.16 in response to TONY .......and i think these guys are still
>forgetting the memory issue...... a driver that takes over 400 megs of
>ram during the boot-up process for no reason is the REAL problem who
>cares about open GL 2.0.



The other problem that I have had in the Past was Games giving a Blue blocky
screen on start up and also in the game its self, not all games, just a few


This was caused when setting the Blue colour down a Tad, due to the slight
blue cast reported in my LCD screen.


But I have not tested it of late and will have to find the games it failed
on.

I tried to report this Bug to a number of People that stated they had contact
with Nvidia but never got any answers back..

I might now try this again as it was so easy to reproduce..

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LOL and still missing the point........ must have taken a stupid
pill....

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Mine says 434800 k, which is about 43 megs. I've checked on my machine and
one of my spares and both are about the same. Both have 6800's in them,
mine is running in sli mode and the other in single agp.

"NnjHotBoy" <nnjhotboy@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 52.16 in response to TONY .......and i think these guys are still
> forgetting the memory issue...... a driver that takes over 400 megs of
> ram during the boot-up process for no reason is the REAL problem who
> cares about open GL 2.0.
>

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In article <1tm1c1t7rplp5kbb4isbl4gmj0b0im8ufu@4ax.com>, Tony says...

> 77.72 uses some 400 megs, no diver uses 140 megs
>
Not here it doesn't.


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"Tom" <tjs2906@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Mine says 434800 k, which is about 43 megs. I've checked on my machine
> and one of my spares and both are about the same. Both have 6800's in
> them, mine is running in sli mode and the other in single agp.

Uh, that's 425 Megs or so. It goes by ~1000, not ~10000.

RF.

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Not much point using these drivers on a 4600.

"Ants" <ants@pants.com> wrote in message
news:11bsbt06tp00m30@corp.supernews.com...
> These new drivers break OpenGL on my old GeForce4 Ti4600 which I paid big
> bucks for when it came out. If Nvidia is going to rely on the unified
driver
> architecture for multiple generations of cards they better test the
drivers
> on older products before it gets certified. As I'm sure Johnathan Lewis
will
> agree, Nvidia has been getting sloppy with it's drivers in the last couple
> of years and I hope this isn't a sign that Nvidia will no longer support
> their products once a new generation comes out. This is the impression
I've
> been getting. I don't have these sorts of issues with ATI's drivers with
> non-current cards. Anyone else experience the same?
>
>

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Typo my mistake. I meant 430 megs or so.
"RaceFace" <nospam@myplace.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <tjs2906@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FKGdnZe1tYWDoFzfRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> Mine says 434800 k, which is about 43 megs. I've checked on my machine
>> and one of my spares and both are about the same. Both have 6800's in
>> them, mine is running in sli mode and the other in single agp.
>
> Uh, that's 425 Megs or so. It goes by ~1000, not ~10000.
>
> RF.
>
>

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I installed the 77.72 drivers 2 days ago, and I've had GTA San Andreas crash
on me 3 times (during in-game movies), and I've had 2 infinite loop crashes
(while playing mpgs).
Prior to that, I played GTA SA daily for 1 week with the 71.89's and never
had a single glitch or crash.
So, I'm going back to the 71.89's.

A8N-SLI Deluxe
Leadtek 6600gt pci-e
Win XP SP2

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In article <1tm1c1t7rplp5kbb4isbl4gmj0b0im8ufu@4ax.com>,
Tony <ts@nospam.comn> wrote:
#On 27 Jun 2005 16:24:15 -0700, "NnjHotBoy" <nnjhotboy@aol.com> wrote:
#
#>52.16 in response to TONY .......and i think these guys are still
#>forgetting the memory issue...... a driver that takes over 400 megs of
#>ram during the boot-up process for no reason is the REAL problem who
#>cares about open GL 2.0.
#
#
#
#Well some Games need it

Really? Name some. OpenGL *2.0* games, that is.

Ken.
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