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AMD Shipping Desktop A4-3300, A4-3400 APUs

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September 9, 2011 10:14:36 AM

only bulldozer news please.
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September 9, 2011 10:31:11 AM

fyaskoonly bulldozer news please.

agree, don't want more low end crap based on old Athlon tech.
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September 9, 2011 10:34:35 AM

This will be good news, if the OEM's will actually use them...
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September 9, 2011 11:26:37 AM

this is going to be the longest week of the year til bulldozer (tentatively) arrives. I dont like this, I think AMD shouldve waited to make their APUs more mainstream when they had a more permanent socket.
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September 9, 2011 12:53:29 PM

What is the TDP envelope on these? They might be naturals for cheapo HT boxes...
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September 9, 2011 12:54:41 PM

figgusWhat is the TDP envelope on these? They might be naturals for cheapo HT boxes...

65w... Figures it was right in front of me.
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September 9, 2011 12:56:25 PM

you guys obviously don't recognize the benefits this is for a HTPC builder. It does 3D Blu-ray (if you want that) and has more than enough processing power if you want your HTPC to also serve as a file server. I probably would have gotten this over my Athlon II X2 Regor 240 which I paid $57 at the time.
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September 9, 2011 12:56:34 PM

I'm guessing some of their customers probably asked for these, like the people who make those mini-box computers for TVs.
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September 9, 2011 1:06:43 PM

ThunderfoxThis will be good news, if the OEM's will actually use them...


They sold 15M of APU so far. I guess OEM's use them..
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September 9, 2011 1:19:27 PM

I can see this being implemented in a corporate workstation environment.
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September 9, 2011 1:23:00 PM

any benchmarks yet ?
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Anonymous
September 9, 2011 1:24:58 PM

Hey Tom, aren't you suppose to do reviews on such things?
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September 9, 2011 1:38:09 PM

This would make an awesome Media server with such low power consumption. ATI has awesome bencharks in the blu ray quality tests.
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September 9, 2011 1:51:47 PM

im an intel fan but i have to admit those apu cpu are only good for media server for their low power consumation but surfing to web and responsibility on windows 7 is kinda slow, i mean my ipad is faster and for gaming! my e350 cant even run wow at low resolution why they promote directx11 with what 2 fps with a decent game.
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September 9, 2011 2:15:22 PM

at last, the A8 and A6 were way too expensive, these on the other hand are the perfect balance, time to rock a HTP NAS box build me think
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September 9, 2011 2:26:05 PM

@srgess

........ you have a problem telling the difference between a Camry and a Yaris? let me key you in here, E350 is a 18w TDP chip, you ever tried running WoW on an atom? cause thats what the E series chips were aimed at

do all intel fans instantly associate APU with the lowest denominator? these are A series Llano chips (645w and 100w TDP) they are a complete different class form your E series chips
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September 9, 2011 2:30:27 PM

srgessim an intel fan but i have to admit those apu cpu are only good for media server for their low power consumation but surfing to web and responsibility on windows 7 is kinda slow, i mean my ipad is faster and for gaming! my e350 cant even run wow at low resolution why they promote directx11 with what 2 fps with a decent game.


I can't speak specifically for the desktop version of the A4-3300, but my recently purchased HP laptop with the A4-3300m has more serious gaming chops than I ever dreamed it would have.
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September 9, 2011 2:30:40 PM

Reading this comment section reminds me just how stupid people are.
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September 9, 2011 2:33:21 PM

is it possible to create a small cheap server for minecraft with this ?
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September 9, 2011 2:42:59 PM

srgess said:
im an intel fan but i have to admit those apu cpu are only good for media server for their low power consumation but surfing to web and responsibility on windows 7 is kinda slow, i mean my ipad is faster and for gaming! my e350 cant even run wow at low resolution why they promote directx11 with what 2 fps with a decent game.


2.5GHz is a pretty big step up from 1.6GHz, and since I run a 2.8GHz Athlon II in my HTPC I can say that Windows 7 and web surfing are plenty fast. Also, the A4 meets the minimum requirements for WoW. It won't run at 1080p & high settings, but should be more than capable for people who don't care.

EDIT: This is assuming that the E, A, and Athlon series chips have a similar efficiency per Hz. I'd be willing to bet that the A series chips are more efficient.
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September 9, 2011 2:47:58 PM

srgessim an intel fan but i have to admit those apu cpu are only good for media server for their low power consumation but surfing to web and responsibility on windows 7 is kinda slow, i mean my ipad is faster and for gaming! my e350 cant even run wow at low resolution why they promote directx11 with what 2 fps with a decent game.


Your also talking about a 18w processor, which was designed to compete with an Atom.. How well did you think it would play WOW? The upper end APU's play WOW fine like the A6-3650 and A8-3850.. Remember in computers things are generally purpose built. E-350 = HTPC and low power web-tops/net-tops.
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September 9, 2011 3:37:36 PM

These would be great in an HTPC or homeserver build.
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September 9, 2011 3:44:46 PM

This isn't all that great compared to the mobile versions with 240 shaders and the power consumption isn't great either. 2.5ghz base clock or turbo?

I got the mobile version and being a 35w sample things are looking better and overclocking is a breeze.
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September 9, 2011 4:13:40 PM

nforce4maxThis isn't all that great compared to the mobile versions with 240 shaders and the power consumption isn't great either. 2.5ghz base clock or turbo?I got the mobile version and being a 35w sample things are looking better and overclocking is a breeze.


Amen. I've got my A4-3300m stable at 3.0GHz with stock cooling (I have the back propped up for better airflow, but that's about it.
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September 9, 2011 5:59:47 PM

it's a waste to me and underpowered as well.
just put out Bulldozer/Zambezi already..
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September 9, 2011 7:43:20 PM

all this being said the APU line is a solid line-up with some good potential for new product types.
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September 9, 2011 8:06:12 PM

I'm about to drop some money on a power sipper for web browsing, netflix, and HD content at the lowest possible price. I haven't decided yet but would like to also hold 2-4 HDDs for more storage. I'll keep an eye on these for sure.

Right now I feel really stupid using my gaming rig to type this comment... hehehe
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September 9, 2011 8:08:52 PM

figgus65w... Figures it was right in front of me.

Yeah, go figgus.
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September 9, 2011 8:32:21 PM

AssmarYeah, go figgus.


Yeah. Truly, one of my finer moments. Then again, I did get modded to +8 for my failure, somehow. Perhaps my rapid admission of error?
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September 9, 2011 8:34:17 PM

^ 9 now... but I honestly cant figgus out why...
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September 9, 2011 9:38:10 PM

infernuscyis it possible to create a small cheap server for minecraft with this ?

I suppose it should be possible. Minecraft servers are usually more limited by memory than by CPU cycles. If you keep the server small, as you say, and have enough memory, I'd imagine it would work out fine. Do some reading online about the needed performance, or even ask in the forums.
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September 10, 2011 12:01:04 AM

GaMEChldI suppose it should be possible. Minecraft servers are usually more limited by memory than by CPU cycles. If you keep the server small, as you say, and have enough memory, I'd imagine it would work out fine. Do some reading online about the needed performance, or even ask in the forums.
As long as it has tons of memory, this CPU is plenty fast. But why? Why not get a cheaper Athlon II X2? Hosting a Minecraft server on an APU is a waste - the server isn't going to use the GPU, so half of the APU is worthless.

You can snag an Athlon II X2 250 for $60 off Newegg and its clocked at 3Ghz, and it has twice the L2 cache (though this won't generally make much of a difference). Same TDP, too.
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September 10, 2011 12:06:33 AM

^Indeed, there are better options on the table for setting up a dedicated minecraft server in the same price envelope. Unless you want the computer to be functional outside of its server role, I'd do what he suggested and get a cheap chip, with a cheap motherboard (with integrated graphics) and as much memory as is appropriate for the number of players you want to host.
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September 10, 2011 3:13:26 AM

That's good to know,even though I can't see myself using this technology.
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September 10, 2011 6:18:52 AM

...and meanwhile, the wait for Bulldozer has become an agonizing series of cries from all across the world.
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