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September 9, 2011 4:05:24 PM

Where are the bulldozer fans nows ??
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September 9, 2011 4:08:39 PM

Is it really worth it to go for the extreme processor over the other 6core unlock?
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September 9, 2011 4:10:51 PM

I wish they had a 3820K as well.
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September 9, 2011 4:14:23 PM

I fear it may already be too late for Bulldozer, with Sandy Bridge-E coming out not long after it does.
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September 9, 2011 4:17:19 PM

greghomeIs it worth anything more than a I7-2600K ?


Most likely..... No.
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Anonymous
September 9, 2011 4:17:50 PM

Don't know if I should look into getting one of these or wait for Ivy Bridge...
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September 9, 2011 4:17:55 PM

At least when you look at value to cost that is.
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September 9, 2011 4:21:31 PM

greghomeIs it worth anything more than a I7-2600K ?


You can do 16x 16x on sli instead of 8x 8x seems like the only real difference, but then you lose the unlocked feature unless you want to pay $300 more.
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September 9, 2011 4:30:15 PM

will ivy bridge support the first gen p67 mainboard? bcos i'll definitely waiting for it.
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September 9, 2011 4:35:46 PM

After this news it wouldnt be surprizing to see buldozer launch in 2 days
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September 9, 2011 4:36:35 PM

Hard to put a real value on stuff like this... regardless of the msrp... that just makes it harder. It's probably a good investment for people who want the max bandwidth out of their 3 or 4 gpu's (despite the issues) and want that to run their 3 x 2560x1600 monitors.

That's not me. I'm confident my SB can do 5ghz and the cards are x16 x8 or x8,x16,x16 if there were a third. I can't fathom needing more for gaming.

I bet it all is really fun to play with though. I think this will be out before desktop bulldozers. Either will get the job done and your biggest concern might just be price and color scheme lol... again, for gaming.
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September 9, 2011 4:38:40 PM

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$583 (Core i7-3930K) and $294 (Core i7-3820


Is it worth anything more than a I7-2600K ?


Yes for the i7-3930K since it is has 6 cores and will have much greater memory bandwidth. Im assuming this will be a hit for CAD / Photoshop folks.

The Core i7-3820 seems like a total waste of money because it is essentially a 2600K. Except it inst fully unlocked but it does have quad channel memory controller which Im assuming wont mean squat on a quad core.

Very limited market for these E series chips unlike the 1366 chips they are replacing because of the great performance the 2500K and the 2600K already provide.

Does anyone get the feeling Intel has been waiting to get its hands on Bulldozer parts so they could make sure these E parts would out perform them? We all know Intel has headroom to crank the speed up if needed.
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September 9, 2011 4:47:31 PM

come on bulldozer, I don't want to pay $600 to have an overclockable cpu
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September 9, 2011 4:49:39 PM

still no usb 3.0 from intel?
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September 9, 2011 4:49:53 PM

JamesSneedYes for the i7-3930K since it is has 6 cores and will have much greater memory bandwidth. Im assuming this will be a hit for CAD / Photoshop folks.The Core i7-3820 seems like a total waste of money because it is essentially a 2600K. Except it inst fully unlocked but it does have quad channel memory controller which Im assuming wont mean squat on a quad core.Very limited market for these E series chips unlike the 1366 chips they are replacing because of the great performance the 2500K and the 2600K already provide. Does anyone get the feeling Intel has been waiting to get its hands on Bulldozer parts so they could make sure these E parts would out perform them? We all know Intel has headroom to crank the speed up if needed.


I skipped 1366 completely. I haven't read up on it entirely either. How much did triple channel improve over dual? How much better is quad expected to be over triple or dual? Is it marketing hype or is there any real benefit? I don't know....
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September 9, 2011 4:51:12 PM

Well... the reason I am considering going with the SBE chips isn't actually the processors themselves but the motherboard. LGA2011 supports ivy bridge and triple channle memory.

Currently you have to go lga 1366 to get triple channel ram but then you cant get sandy bridge. Or you can go LGA775 and get core i7-2600k with dual channel ram.

basically my strategy is to wait for lga 2011, get the quad core proc, lots of ram and then pull the trigger once ivy bridge drops.
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September 9, 2011 4:52:45 PM

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Well... the reason I am considering going with the SBE chips isn't actually the processors themselves but the motherboard. LGA2011 supports ivy bridge and quad channle memory.

Currently you have to go lga 1366 to get triple channel ram but then you cant get sandy bridge. Or you can go LGA1155 and get core i7-2600k with dual channel ram.

basically my strategy is to wait for lga 2011, get the quad core proc, lots of ram and then pull the trigger once ivy bridge drops.


there ya go, u were in a rush of excitement
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September 9, 2011 4:53:00 PM

johnners2981still no usb 3.0 from intel?


I was wondering that too.
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September 9, 2011 4:56:29 PM

There will be more chips for 1155 eventually too... we'll have to see if they bring anything new and pertinent to the table... doubtful. I think the 2600k is plenty for the next 5 years (for me).
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September 9, 2011 5:03:59 PM

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Well... the reason I am considering going with the SBE chips isn't actually the processors themselves but the motherboard. LGA2011 supports ivy bridge and triple channle memory.

Currently you have to go lga 1366 to get triple channel ram but then you cant get sandy bridge. Or you can go LGA775 and get core i7-2600k with dual channel ram.

basically my strategy is to wait for lga 2011, get the quad core proc, lots of ram and then pull the trigger once ivy bridge drops.



The SBE chips support quad channel memory not triple channel. Also the 1155 socket will be used for Ivy Bridge as well. So you don't necessarily have to use these E series to future proof.
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September 9, 2011 5:05:28 PM

Intel is shooting them selves in the foot by not unlocking the Core i7-3820. Why bother with this chip when you can get a 2600k for the same price and its unlocked.
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September 9, 2011 5:08:10 PM

ulysses35Where are the bulldozer fans nows ??

As a person who has only own Intel systems, your comment is absolutely idiotic.
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September 9, 2011 5:13:36 PM

clonazepam said:
I skipped 1366 completely. I haven't read up on it entirely either. How much did triple channel improve over dual? How much better is quad expected to be over triple or dual? Is it marketing hype or is there any real benefit? I don't know....


On the quad core Im expecting very little to no gain for 99% of use cases. The 6 core chips could see some decent improvements if say they easily saturate more bandwidth than what dual channel memory could provide. I guess we wait for tests but I wouldn't hold my breath on the quad core part. In either case gamers should not care one bit as it has been proven memory bandwidth on SB chips matters very little for frame rates.
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Anonymous
September 9, 2011 5:24:06 PM

@johnners2981 and skaz

Intel are in no hurry to push usb 3.0 they much more interested in (their proprietary) thunderbolt and eventually lightpeak
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September 9, 2011 5:26:14 PM

Wonder how the 3930K will stack up against the twice as expensive 3960X
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September 9, 2011 5:33:08 PM

Alright I'm buying my i5 2500k. Does anyone know if these will remain socket 1155? then I'll be even more happy cause I can upgrade later if I want.
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September 9, 2011 5:33:38 PM

Too late for amd for launching bulldozer.
I am going to wait for LGA 2011.
Then i'll decide to buy either bulldozer/Ivy bridge .
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September 9, 2011 5:40:10 PM

there's no PCI-E 3.0 on the lga 2011 platform, it says PCI-E 2.0 16x or 4x 8. and all of its USB are 2.0. The only good thing could be the 10 sata port including SAS LOL. Im sceptical about this info.. and if it come close to the official info I think there's no point buying that platform.
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September 9, 2011 5:42:42 PM

You guys are soooo un-informed.

AMD got smart and put all their recources where they can make money, other markets. They are not interested in trying to outperform Intel in the enthusiest desktop cpu market, like all you fanboy kiddies think.

Desktop pc's are dying fast.

Good job AMD for shipping 15million APU's in the 2nd quarter alone. The new CEO finally got it right.
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September 9, 2011 5:46:13 PM

AMD already released 16 core Bulldozers with quad channel memory for servers, so actually they are already ahead of Intel.

AMD finally got it right, they put their recources into other markets instead of trying to compete with Intel in the dying desktop enthusiest market.

Way to go AMD.
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September 9, 2011 5:48:39 PM

I mean who wants to buy a Sandy Bridge-E? NOBODY.

Even the old X4 955 is fast enough for any game out there. Sandy Bridge is already overkill. Intel just wants to keep bending over you fanboys every 6 months for a new platform. 1366, 1156, 1155, 2011.

Go for it suckers.
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September 9, 2011 5:50:29 PM

coverfireAlright I'm buying my i5 2500k. Does anyone know if these will remain socket 1155? then I'll be even more happy cause I can upgrade later if I want.


For gaming? You'll likely be fine for 3+ years. There will be 22nm chips for 1155 in the future. Remember, socket 775 saw 3 die sizes during its heyday. 1155 should be around for at least 2.

We learned that game developers tend to build for the consoles and then port. I can't see the next gen consoles using or needing any of this new technology, so pc's will once again be ahead of the curve, even after we see (hopefully) improvements. Hardware is going to keep getting farther and farther ahead of the software. Right now a company can spend a bunch of money making a game, selling it, making their investment, and hopefully a profit. They would have to invest a great deal in R&D to improve the existing tools. They would somehow have to figure out how to increase the graphics / gameplay quality, story, etc while still maintaining a reasonable number of employees / hours, development schedule, and then after all that extra money and work, still sell it at the same price - $50-$60. Unless its a blockbuster hit, its pretty predictable what the best case scenario is for profit. I'd love for them to spend all that extra cash to really make WOW AWESOME forever games, but I doubt they want to give up that profit margin.
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September 9, 2011 5:52:06 PM

_Pez_there's no PCI-E 3.0 on the lga 2011 platform, it says PCI-E 2.0 16x or 4x 8. and all of its USB are 2.0. The only good thing could be the 10 sata port including SAS LOL. Im sceptical about this info.. and if it come close to the official info I think there's no point buying that platform.


SemiAccurate reports some rumors about the chip being broken - they screwed up pci-express 3.0 it will only work in PCI Express 2.0 mode. If that's true, since they also use the same pci express 3.0 with some additions to connect the processors in multi-cpu so it's going to take a few months to get server cpus ready.

As for USB 3.0 - it's the Apple-Intel deal about using that Thunder... patented stuff...
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September 9, 2011 5:53:47 PM

It better be before 11/11/11 or they are going to miss the Skyrim upgrade cycle.
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September 9, 2011 5:55:27 PM

GeekApprovedI mean who wants to buy a Sandy Bridge-E? NOBODY.Even the old X4 955 is fast enough for any game out there. Sandy Bridge is already overkill. Intel just wants to keep bending over you fanboys every 6 months for a new platform. 1366, 1156, 1155, 2011.Go for it suckers.


Yeah I think it's really hard to predict when anyone will say "hey my *insert any i7-i5 cpu* is too damned slow for gaming".
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September 9, 2011 5:56:07 PM

Now AMD/Bulldozer will be how far behind.?
reports say Bulldozer is (performance wise) just like the LGA1156 socket from Intel.
Intel of course already has SB out there dominating now over AMD.
So now this will leave AMD three steps back again or just two.?
Hell it doesn't matter, they're behind in terms of performance.
I do want Bulldozer to do well but competing against the SB, SB-E and Ivy coming soon in terms of performance (per core especially) isn't happening..
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September 9, 2011 6:07:56 PM

mal... you must know someone is going to try and brow beat you by saying AMD isn't behind Intel at all because they don't follow Intel's release cycle and conclude that you must be dumb for not realizing that... lol...

Anyway... you're right. I agree on all points though I'm assuming you know what you're talking about in terms of the performance comparison to 1156.
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September 9, 2011 6:15:29 PM

@ clonazepam - I know it bro, LOL.
someone is going to say something....
I hope they realize that I have a i5-760 and a 955BE before they talk crap.
So my opinion is really non-biased, hell I'm building a Bulldozer/Zambezi rig anyways so it doesn't even matter.
30-35% increase over my 955BE is good enough for me BUT,,,,
Intel and SB-E and especially Ivy coming out WILL make me finally give up the LGA1156.
peace..
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September 9, 2011 6:16:59 PM

well at this moment of market between Intel & AMD I want to see the prices go down! dam AMD drop those Chips so Intel will have to low their $ on its cpus :S :S !! Intel is already billionarie why don't low costs on cpus ??? WHY ?? again cpu at $1000 ... that's a joke. dam !
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September 9, 2011 6:24:37 PM

Sooo much mis-information.
SB-E is the 'tock' to the SB 'Tick', these are the extreme processors based on the SB architecture, requiring a 2011 pin mobo. The processors will support quad channel ram, extra satas, and are generally marketed to professional workstation markets and servers. If you are a gamer there will be little to no real world difference between these and the current SB chips. However, if you do any kind of design work or rendering then these chips will be a must. They tend to change the extreme chip pinouts with every generation, so buying a SB-E board will ONLY work with SB-E chips, the next generation of high end chips will likely be something different. On the low end, boards tend to last several generations. LGA 775 lasted forever (P4-C2D), and LGA 1155 looks like it will last a good long while as well, but they expect you to buy a whole new computer when you buy higher end equipment.

IB will be a new architecture coming out Q1-2 (mar-may) of next year. As with all Intel releases this will be a 'tick' release, meaning the low to mid-range chips (like our current i3-i7 2600K chips), which will be followed up with a 'tock' release of the extreme and professional (like the SB-E chips the article is about) chips roughly a year later. The first release will remain on the current pin setup, but will support many new technologies such as wireless display and PCIe3. Current SB mobos will work with IB, but may not allow some of the new features to work (specifically PCIe3). IB will also include a die shrink, plus tri-gate tech which will allow for lower power/clock which (hopefully) will mean that it will be even more of a killer overclocker than SB chips. There are rumors of thunderbolt support with IB specific chip sets, as well as more PCIe lanes, and USB3 controllers, but really we wont know until the chips come out.
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September 9, 2011 6:26:41 PM

I bought a Q6600 for $300 in 2007. I spent $300 on the i7-2600k last month. I think that's pretty reasonable and even frugal seeing that I held out so long. Take it even further, 4-8GB of high performance DDR2 back then cost more than 16GB of great DDR3 memory today. I don't want to get into graphics though... I've made plenty of mistakes there over those years... Anyone want to buy a piece of gaming history? - BFG GTX 260 (216 cores) or a PNY GTX 570? lol... was kidding but actually.. I think I'll post in the forums...
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September 9, 2011 6:29:41 PM

clonazepam said:
I bought a Q6600 for $300 in 2007. I spent $300 on the i7-2600k last month. I think that's pretty reasonable and even frugal seeing that I held out so long. Take it even further, 4-8GB of high performance DDR2 back then cost more than 16GB of great DDR3 memory today. I don't want to get into graphics though... I've made plenty of mistakes there over those years... Anyone want to buy a piece of gaming history? - BFG GTX 260 (216 cores) or a PNY GTX 570? lol... was kidding but actually.. I think I'll post in the forums...

+1
see you there..
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September 9, 2011 6:33:36 PM

Not unlocking the i7-3820 actually opens the door for Bulldozer in a small way because Bulldozer was suppose to be on par with the i7-2600k but add in extra PCI-E lanes, USB 3.0 etc. Now it looks like that's all the i7-3820 is but minus the overclocking.

So apart from a quad channel memory controller Bulldozer will still be on target to compete with that price range. The i7-2600k/i7-3820/Zambezi Bulldozer showdown. Hurray for competition!
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September 9, 2011 6:41:06 PM

Well I really hope Bulldozer is an overclocking monster that requires a little more than a quick change in multiplier. I love tinkering and even though I won't be adopting the technology, I'll still love reading about it and checking out those youtube "firsts". I had to scroll up and re-read the title of the article. Whew... almost got off-topic lol
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September 9, 2011 6:42:38 PM

ikefu said:
Not unlocking the i7-3820 actually opens the door for Bulldozer in a small way because Bulldozer was suppose to be on par with the i7-2600k but add in extra PCI-E lanes, USB 3.0 etc. Now it looks like that's all the i7-3820 is but minus the overclocking.

So apart from a quad channel memory controller Bulldozer will still be on target to compete with that price range. The i7-2600k/i7-3820/Zambezi Bulldozer showdown. Hurray for competition!

your going to be getting a reality check very soon...
if anything the Bulldozer will have to be clocked around 4.8GHz or better to play ball...
me personally rather have a hard hitting quad core over a medium performing hexa (6) or octo (8) core chip,
do not care about the price if that's what I want..

now it's said you can clock the Bulldozer to 5.0GHz on air, I have to see in without the video first however.
and I am getting the FX-4110 quad core Zambezi.
but you need to listen, all reports say it (Bulldozer 6 and 8 cores) overall can't match the i7-2600K, period..
so how can it match the E-series..?!
'Riddle me that Batman.'
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September 9, 2011 6:54:04 PM

For all of these chips, Intel and AMD... I like to speculate on the possible performance gains by regaining die space from the graphics components, and using it to revamp the memory controller, pcie lanes, and boosting the L1, L2, and L3 sizes. I don't pretend to comprehend cpu architecture... but... jus' saying.
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Anonymous
September 9, 2011 7:02:32 PM

Bye bye Bulldozer... Your delusional fanbois will enjoy you though! lol
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September 9, 2011 7:07:01 PM

coverfireAlright I'm buying my i5 2500k. Does anyone know if these will remain socket 1155? then I'll be even more happy cause I can upgrade later if I want.


No, these will be LGA2011.. A whole new socket
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