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Blizzard: We're a Games Developer, Not PC Developer

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September 14, 2011 8:15:22 AM

Whatever. I'm done with this company. Their devs are idiots, and they sold themselves to the Devil (Activision). They can, and by large part, piss off.
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September 14, 2011 8:25:52 AM

Or maybe the PC is becoming a popular platform for developers again. Thanks to succesfull antipiracy measures for the first time ever.

No crack was ever made for HAWX 2. And there is more than the one noncracked title out there. I just can't recall the names.

And multiplayer seems to be effectively cut down to paying customers as well :) .
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September 14, 2011 8:33:48 AM

Don't start developing for the console. I don't want their shoddy hand me down graphics.
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September 14, 2011 8:44:36 AM

More games for LAN-play!
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Anonymous
September 14, 2011 8:56:47 AM

Piracy is an issue, but I don't think it is the major one, it is still about the quality of the game. All those best selling games are cracked, and I don't think HAWX 2 is that successful.
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September 14, 2011 9:07:51 AM

The current high-end consoles (XBOX360 / PS3) have been on the market for too long. Although their price has been amended several time, their "performances vs money" ratio is no longer interesting compared to what reasonably priced PC's can now achieve. Once a totally new console design comes out, it will take lots of PC gamers away from their computer for some time, until they get bored and find out that recent PC hardware can again do much better. It's cyclic...
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September 14, 2011 9:09:12 AM

Rizlla since when has Blizzard been at the cutting edge of graphics? Their focus is usually game play which is for me what makes them a special company.
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September 14, 2011 9:17:37 AM

DARK SIDE lol....
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September 14, 2011 9:30:43 AM

But I do like the fact that their games are actually built for the mighty PC too, infact most of their games have been for PC only.
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September 14, 2011 9:38:13 AM

"It’s unfortunate that the illusion that the PC is dying has been propagating for so long and that people have bought into it,"

Much thanks to persons like Toms Hardware's Wolfgang for instance, claiming that PC is crashing while its infact growing in sales as late of yesterday. Amazing what a few journalists can do. Maby its time that Tom's Hardware sack's that kind of so called "journalism" and focus on quality not speculations made without proper information much like "fanbois" do.. that don't belong in a professional site.
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September 14, 2011 9:50:19 AM

mjelloOr maybe the PC is becoming a popular platform for developers again. Thanks to succesfull antipiracy measures for the first time ever.No crack was ever made for HAWX 2. And there is more than the one noncracked title out there. I just can't recall the names.And multiplayer seems to be effectively cut down to paying customers as well .


i remember a while back a crack team said they only work on games and software that interests them, hawks 2 has so little interest in their community that no wants to, its not uncrackable, just no one cares.
AfrospinachRizlla since when has Blizzard been at the cutting edge of graphics? Their focus is usually game play which is for me what makes them a special company.


havent they always been more or less cutting edge?
wow for mass appeal, was held back graphically, but look at current star craft 2 and tell me it isn't?

i should define that cutting edge and bleeding edge have 2 different meanings for me, cutting = whats now, bleeding = future

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September 14, 2011 9:53:32 AM

"BLIZZARD" they're all cool by me! They have to make go as wide as possible to get into every single games market that they can.
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September 14, 2011 10:49:52 AM

Devs really need to put the pressure on Nintendo, Sony and XBOX to build Next-Gen consoles and stop porting games over to them. Rather, just make games for PC.
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September 14, 2011 11:27:12 AM

AfrospinachRizlla since when has Blizzard been at the cutting edge of graphics? Their focus is usually game play which is for me what makes them a special company.


As alidan wrote. Starcraft2 has great grapihcs. If you have a system that can run the game @ 1080p full detail have a good look at it. It really does look good. Cataclysm does not look too bad either.
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September 14, 2011 11:56:34 AM

Consoles suck
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September 14, 2011 12:00:24 PM

Quality sure as hell beats quantity. I've spent $1,000 on Blizzard games, and a couple thousand hours.
If Diablo 3 is all I hope it'll be, I'll pay $150 or more for a collector's edition without a second thought.
Part of what makes Blizzard games so great is the community around them.
As much as I love my high end rig now, I used to just buy whatever used gaming computer a nerdy store owner recommended to me that was in the $800 range, and they ran Blizzard games just fine for me.
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September 14, 2011 12:12:07 PM

"Many of Blizzard's peers have sited piracy as one of the factors behind their platform jump;" - should be "cited". dropped through the cracks of grammar and spellcheck haha
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September 14, 2011 12:12:39 PM

Maybe thats why I have not purchased one of your games for years, SC2 in three parts developer.
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September 14, 2011 12:25:11 PM

Wish I Was Wealthy"BLIZZARD" they're all cool by me! They have to make go as wide as possible to get into every single games market that they can.


I dont know why this is thumbs down so much... Consoles are the money makers and I rather have a company like blizzard make money then companys that just kick out the same tired Madden / COD crap every year
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September 14, 2011 12:28:10 PM

RizllaAs alidan wrote. Starcraft2 has great grapihcs. If you have a system that can run the game @ 1080p full detail have a good look at it. It really does look good. Cataclysm does not look too bad either.


Maybe if you've looked at NOTHING else for the past 4 years. I mean, have you SEEN the in-game graphics for final fantasy 13? "blew them out of the water" would be an understatement. A big one. Blizzard has the capabilities to make cutting edge graphics, yes, but they don't want to. Their cinematics are serious quality, but we get 4-5 of those per game, if we're lucky. And their in-game graphics are awful compared to their cinematics.

On top of that, they do half their cutscenes in gameplay graphics. Usually that's not a big deal, but some of the wrath of the lich king cutscenes just made me wanna barf. They hardly even took the time to match mouth movements to dialogue. >.> I was perfectly ready to forgive that, though, given the quality of gameplay we got in WotLK. Which is something that severely dropped off in Cataclysm.
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September 14, 2011 12:30:20 PM

Starcraft sucked on the Nintendo 64.
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September 14, 2011 1:01:10 PM

Seriously, if AMD and nVidia wants us to buy their graphics cards, they should push hard developers towards PC, with full optimization and latest graphics features.
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September 14, 2011 1:23:19 PM

its easier to get revenue on console. one obvious reason for that: console users are not as smart and they buy every shit you throw at them, and its easy to create some shity shit. blizzard on the other hand, only develops quality products, and that my friends makes money everywhere, be it pc console or ultraportable. long live blizzard, you make other devs step up!
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September 14, 2011 1:55:06 PM

Sooo, Mr. "We're a games developer"... where are all of the games?
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September 14, 2011 2:26:44 PM

ZehStarcraft sucked on the Nintendo 64.

For me anything sucks if it is not on a PC ;) 
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September 14, 2011 2:29:28 PM

bearracudaMaybe if you've looked at NOTHING else for the past 4 years. I mean, have you SEEN the in-game graphics for final fantasy 13? "blew them out of the water" would be an understatement. A big one. Blizzard has the capabilities to make cutting edge graphics, yes, but they don't want to. Their cinematics are serious quality, but we get 4-5 of those per game, if we're lucky. And their in-game graphics are awful compared to their cinematics. On top of that, they do half their cutscenes in gameplay graphics. Usually that's not a big deal, but some of the wrath of the lich king cutscenes just made me wanna barf. They hardly even took the time to match mouth movements to dialogue. >.> I was perfectly ready to forgive that, though, given the quality of gameplay we got in WotLK. Which is something that severely dropped off in Cataclysm.


I haven't played final fantacy since 8 came out. It go a bit boring for me. Everyone moaned so much about Cataclysm, but I actually think it was not so bad. There were some really cool additions added.
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September 14, 2011 2:54:44 PM

What is the world coming to where Blizzard are the ones that speak the truth.
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September 14, 2011 3:27:47 PM

I've been done with blizzard for years. Anyone else?
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September 14, 2011 3:39:38 PM

No piracy on consoles "It’s unfortunate that the illusion that piracy on consoles is not possible has been propagating for so long and that developers have bought into it"

I repair consoles vast majority i have seen are modded in some way hardware,software,firmware.

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September 14, 2011 4:01:54 PM

anony2004But I do like the fact that their games are actually built for the mighty PC too, infact most of their games have been for PC only.


To clarify the games they make are Pc and Mac.
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September 14, 2011 5:30:45 PM

rantoc"It’s unfortunate that the illusion that the PC is dying has been propagating for so long and that people have bought into it,"Much thanks to persons like Toms Hardware's Wolfgang for instance, claiming that PC is crashing while its infact growing in sales as late of yesterday. Amazing what a few journalists can do. Maby its time that Tom's Hardware sack's that kind of so called "journalism" and focus on quality not speculations made without proper information much like "fanbois" do.. that don't belong in a professional site.


I completely agree!! Its one reason i am loosing interest in this site. Hopefully it stops soon or else im leaving. Not gonna keep supporting a site that keeps talking about the demise of our favorite platform?
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September 14, 2011 5:39:07 PM

Anyone remember Starcraft 64? You had to have the additional memory module to play Brood War. Fun times.

I'm one of the few who were able to play Starcraft Ghost on the first XBOX at the first Blizzcon. It was actually a lot of fun, but it didn't feel right, so I understand why Blizzard shelved it. Blizzard games never really felt polished on a console. However, with Diablo III, I could potentially see the PS3 making an entry. Sony's going to pass up Microsoft soon because they're allowing 3rd parties to develop their platforms on their console (Steamworks, and possibly soon, Battle.net).
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September 14, 2011 6:10:15 PM

A True gamer has it all 8p The PC is king and will always will be.

Why hold yourself back and only have consoles or just a PC 8( that's stupid purchase all 3 or 4 I have 360, ps3 and wii and the PC well it's the workhorse for serious power gaming visuals.

Diablo 3, Rage, Skyrim and Swtor are going to keep me busy 8)
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September 14, 2011 6:21:19 PM

yea... PC all the way. i love blizzard.. i love starcraft. quality games indeed.
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September 14, 2011 6:47:51 PM

upgrade_1977Not gonna keep supporting a site that keeps talking about the demise of our favorite platform?


If it were true it would been ok as its news like every other news, now its just speculations without any ground - seen through the biased eyes of a reporter that seem to be allowed to keep posting the same slander over and over (Wolfgang's - Everything but apple products are doomed "news" over and over).

Thats not how i think Tom's Hardware want to be recognized - As slanderous!
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September 14, 2011 7:01:56 PM

I know this will break the hearts of PC gamers, but "install base" does not equal sales, especially not in the PC industry which has a lot more free to play/demo installs and Steam bundles than consoles do. Blizzard's massive PC success also does not mean every PC developer in general is doing well. PC sales are doing better but still don't compare to the combined software sales of all consoles, and that's at a time when most consoles are nearing the end of their life cycle.

I'm not saying console games are superior, but there are a lot of factors against PC gaming. The average person doesn't want to pay for good graphics cards or build their own system. They also don't want to deal with installations and DRM. Steam has helped with the latter problem by making PC games easier to play. The former isn't as much a problem as it used to be either, these days even fairly low end systems can still work for game graphics. PC gamers still have a tendency to play a single game longer, which hurts the number of sales. A PC gamer installs a FPS and mods it when it gets old, or plays an MMO and contributes to the same game over and over through transactions. Console gamers have had a tendency to buy a game, play it to completion, then trade it in for a new game. Consoles thus make more box sales than PC games. With networked games and PC developers in the console industry however bringing games like CoD into the mix, people are trading in less and playing one console game more. Console box sales are going to decrease, and PC games will increase.
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Anonymous
September 14, 2011 7:38:37 PM

How the heck do you play WOW with a console controller? Some games are just better on a PC (like all of them). FPS, RPG's, sims, anything that's not some idiotic side scroller.
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September 14, 2011 7:43:19 PM

Well I guess Activision should be recognized for their commitment to the PC platform.
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September 14, 2011 8:16:53 PM

IMHO I feel that both console games and PC games have a place, and there can be some cross-over.

To me it seems as though in the console world, the quality of games aren't there. Even when they make a sequel i.e. Dragon Age 2 it's just bad, or so much worse that it's predecessor. If you want to push graphics do it like Crysis did, have some game that is just balls to wall beautiful and create a new 'benchmark.'

This world is motivated by money, no one is above that, just make good games and money will come.
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September 14, 2011 8:51:48 PM

dthxThe current high-end consoles (XBOX360 / PS3) have been on the market for too long. Although their price has been amended several time, their "performances vs money" ratio is no longer interesting compared to what reasonably priced PC's can now achieve. Once a totally new console design comes out, it will take lots of PC gamers away from their computer for some time, until they get bored and find out that recent PC hardware can again do much better. It's cyclic...


that s the truth for me anyway. I went from console to computer, back to console, back to computer, back to cosole, back to computer, back to console, and now I am currently back into computers. I still had both for the most part during those times, but I am just going by what I was actually spending my time on. Only thing I really use my console for now is streaming music from my computer and maybe playing some Mortal Kombat.
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September 14, 2011 9:14:01 PM

RizllaDon't start developing for the console. I don't want their shoddy hand me down graphics.
Blizzard's games don't use top of the line graphics....
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September 14, 2011 9:36:33 PM

mjelloOr maybe the PC is becoming a popular platform for developers again. Thanks to succesfull antipiracy measures for the first time ever.No crack was ever made for HAWX 2. And there is more than the one noncracked title out there. I just can't recall the names.And multiplayer seems to be effectively cut down to paying customers as well .


Multiplayer is the best DRM ever. On the other hand, HAWX? LOL Why would anybody want to waste bandwidth on that anyway?
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September 14, 2011 9:59:19 PM

dthxThe current high-end consoles (XBOX360 / PS3) have been on the market for too long. Although their price has been amended several time, their "performances vs money" ratio is no longer interesting compared to what reasonably priced PC's can now achieve. Once a totally new console design comes out, it will take lots of PC gamers away from their computer for some time, until they get bored and find out that recent PC hardware can again do much better. It's cyclic...



The only issue is, most of the development money is spent on consoles, so all that horsepower is rarely put to good use. Hell a lot of times it has to be left up to the modding community.
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September 14, 2011 10:22:50 PM

WHat!! Blizzard has been developing mainly for PC since the very start of the company and they're telling me they aren't PC devs?? Wow, it's like saying :" I build houses but I'm not a contractor..."
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September 14, 2011 10:57:10 PM

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Afrospinach :
Rizlla since when has Blizzard been at the cutting edge of graphics? Their focus is usually game play which is for me what makes them a special company.


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As alidan wrote. Starcraft2 has great grapihcs. If you have a system that can run the game @ 1080p full detail have a good look at it. It really does look good. Cataclysm does not look too bad either.


Everything looks massively better on a PC if you are playing at real Hi-res, like 2560x1440 or 2560x1600.

People need to stop thinking that 1080p is the best. It is if you are talking T.V.s, but it has nothing on a good high res PC monitor. It's this general lack of understanding that is responsible for the proliferation of low res "1080p hi-def" monitors on the market that we see today. It's a total step backwards from what we had years earlier. Its all due to marketing ploys to fool the masses that are clueless into thinking they are getting great value when they are actually being sold a crappy low res monitor. Unfortunately because so many are so uninformed they buy right into it and companies roll in the profits.
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September 14, 2011 11:16:42 PM

dthxThe current high-end consoles (XBOX360 / PS3) have been on the market for too long. Although their price has been amended several time, their "performances vs money" ratio is no longer interesting compared to what reasonably priced PC's can now achieve. Once a totally new console design comes out, it will take lots of PC gamers away from their computer for some time, until they get bored and find out that recent PC hardware can again do much better. It's cyclic...

I still can't find a computer that can play games decently for the price of a console. Just the price of the OS is almost half the price of the console.
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September 14, 2011 11:47:51 PM

I stopped caring about Blizzard development the moment they stopped developing LAN games. As far as I'm concerned they can make whatever games they want for whatever platform they want. They'll get exactly the same amount money from me for console games as they do from PC games... $0.00.
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September 15, 2011 12:08:37 AM

darasenTo clarify the games they make are Pc and Mac.

Mac???...we are talking about gaming here...not mac...Mac=Pseudo Gaming :) 
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