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April 4, 2004 11:49:27 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

OK, this may push me over the edge...

After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
exaggeration! See my post
Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
for all those gory details.

I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
Manager.

I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...

My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:

Format C: to NTFS
Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
Services)
Install SP4
Install the latest Hyperion drivers
Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
website and got the same result.

What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
message above pops up.

No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
load!

System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
\SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
PCTest which tells me:

Test result:

WDM devices INF file not installed.
WDM devices are not listed in registry.
WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow

Duh.

Shared IRQ list:
Resource Device
IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
(3C905C-TX) #2
IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)

System specs:
Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT

No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.

If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
cough it up. This is really buggin' me!

Chuck
Anonymous
April 4, 2004 11:49:28 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Alot of times Code 10 errors can be fixed with a BIOS update.

-Dylan


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"Chuck" <NotGiven@inPublic.org> wrote in message
news:78dv60dfqu3r4o05lnfanv7iee07ebina3@4ax.com...
> OK, this may push me over the edge...
>
> After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
> at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
> others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
> without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
> exaggeration! See my post
> Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
> for all those gory details.
>
> I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
> now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
> fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
> won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
> Manager.
>
> I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
>
> My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
>
> Format C: to NTFS
> Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
> Services)
> Install SP4
> Install the latest Hyperion drivers
> Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
> DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
> So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
> Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
> website and got the same result.
>
> What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
> the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
> your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
> the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
> state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
> 5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
> and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
> message above pops up.
>
> No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
> the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
> going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
> load!
>
> System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
> Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
> \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
> the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
> PCTest which tells me:
>
> Test result:
>
> WDM devices INF file not installed.
> WDM devices are not listed in registry.
> WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
> WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
>
> Duh.
>
> Shared IRQ list:
> Resource Device
> IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
> (3C905C-TX) #2
> IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>
> System specs:
> Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
> AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
> 1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
> Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
> Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
> 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
> Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
>
> No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
> guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
>
> If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
> cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
>
> Chuck
April 5, 2004 7:33:59 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

I don't know anything about the ABIT board, but a few thoughts come to
mind. I had several problems with my ATI coming up with no signal. Can
you increase the voltage to the Vid Card and the RAM? I run Vid at 1.60
and RAM at 2.7 and they are stable. What ATI Catalyst drivers are you
using? I have heard of issues from 3.7 to 4.1. I reloaded several
times until it finally took form the OEM CD verson 3.1, then updated to
4.3 and it is fine. I have another mainboard with a VIA chipset and an
ATI VIVO card. It was very picky to get it to work right. Also, do you
have the Hotfix from Microsoft for DirectX9b and ATI video cards? Can
ou set to BIOS to assign IRQ to the Video card and not share. Creative
and ATI are known for being IRQ hogs and you have SCSI cards and an
ethernet on the same IRQ. Just a thought.

Chuck wrote:
> OK, this may push me over the edge...
>
> After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
> at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
> others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
> without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
> exaggeration! See my post
> Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
> for all those gory details.
>
> I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
> now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
> fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
> won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
> Manager.
>
> I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
>
> My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
>
> Format C: to NTFS
> Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
> Services)
> Install SP4
> Install the latest Hyperion drivers
> Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
> DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
> So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
> Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
> website and got the same result.
>
> What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
> the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
> your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
> the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
> state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
> 5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
> and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
> message above pops up.
>
> No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
> the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
> going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
> load!
>
> System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
> Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
> \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
> the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
> PCTest which tells me:
>
> Test result:
>
> WDM devices INF file not installed.
> WDM devices are not listed in registry.
> WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
> WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
>
> Duh.
>
> Shared IRQ list:
> Resource Device
> IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
> (3C905C-TX) #2
> IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>
> System specs:
> Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
> AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
> 1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
> Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
> Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
> 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
> Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
>
> No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
> guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
>
> If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
> cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
>
> Chuck
Related resources
April 6, 2004 2:57:16 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Thanks for the reply Mike.

I'm beginning to think it is the card placement. I saw on an
'Unofficial' KT7A FAQ a good description of how IRQs are assiged on
the board and how they're shared:

http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2&fcid=26

Tried to follow this as best as I could but there's room for
improvement.

To answer your ???:

-Can't increase voltage specifically to the AGP slot but I do have
something called "AGP Driving value". I'm not sure if it refers to
strength of signal or timing, tho. By a suggstion at the above site I
set it to 68 and that's what finally got it to connect...once. Left
the setting there but it still takes many restarts to connect.

-Tried both the version on the CDROM that came with it (4.1, I
believe) and the latest from ATI. Both same result.

-Tried the hotfix.

-IRQ is assigned (as per ATI) in the BIOS.

-I want to dump this Creative (Ensoniq) card. I think it's causing
part of the OS problem but in troubleshooting the boot issue, I still
had problems with the sound card (and everything else) removed. The
boot problem is going to be resolved (if it can be) in the BIOS
settings. I stripped the machine down to 1 stick of RAM, the CPU and
the card and still had trouble.

To anyone else following my sordid tale: I think when you hear this
VIA/ATI problem in the various forums where it's being discussed, keep
in mind I'm having this issue with a pretty highly rated PSU, Turbo
Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply. I really don't think it's a power
problem as much as a timing issue at the AGP interface. If you're
having this boot problem, it's more likely VIA's than ATI's.

C.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:33:59 GMT, Mike <Mike@att.net> wrote:

>I don't know anything about the ABIT board, but a few thoughts come to
>mind. I had several problems with my ATI coming up with no signal. Can
>you increase the voltage to the Vid Card and the RAM? I run Vid at 1.60
>and RAM at 2.7 and they are stable. What ATI Catalyst drivers are you
>using? I have heard of issues from 3.7 to 4.1. I reloaded several
>times until it finally took form the OEM CD verson 3.1, then updated to
>4.3 and it is fine. I have another mainboard with a VIA chipset and an
>ATI VIVO card. It was very picky to get it to work right. Also, do you
>have the Hotfix from Microsoft for DirectX9b and ATI video cards? Can
>ou set to BIOS to assign IRQ to the Video card and not share. Creative
>and ATI are known for being IRQ hogs and you have SCSI cards and an
>ethernet on the same IRQ. Just a thought.
>
>Chuck wrote:
>> OK, this may push me over the edge...
>>
>> After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
>> at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
>> others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
>> without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
>> exaggeration! See my post
>> Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
>> for all those gory details.
>>
>> I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
>> now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
>> fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
>> won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
>> Manager.
>>
>> I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
>>
>> My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
>>
>> Format C: to NTFS
>> Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
>> Services)
>> Install SP4
>> Install the latest Hyperion drivers
>> Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
>> DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
>> So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
>> Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
>> website and got the same result.
>>
>> What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
>> the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
>> your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
>> the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
>> state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
>> 5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
>> and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
>> message above pops up.
>>
>> No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
>> the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
>> going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
>> load!
>>
>> System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
>> Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
>> \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
>> the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
>> PCTest which tells me:
>>
>> Test result:
>>
>> WDM devices INF file not installed.
>> WDM devices are not listed in registry.
>> WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
>> WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
>>
>> Duh.
>>
>> Shared IRQ list:
>> Resource Device
>> IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
>> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>> IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
>> (3C905C-TX) #2
>> IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>> IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>> IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>>
>> System specs:
>> Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
>> AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
>> 1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
>> Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
>> Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>> Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>> Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>> 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
>> Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
>>
>> No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
>> guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
>>
>> If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
>> cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
>>
>> Chuck
Anonymous
April 6, 2004 6:11:13 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

I use EC as the AGP driving value on this Tyan trinity mb using a Radeon
7200 if that's any help.

"Chuck" <NotGiven@inPublic.org> wrote in message
news:r0o370dk25agheglhvuo0qq7m1lv0gcd50@4ax.com...
> Thanks for the reply Mike.
>
> I'm beginning to think it is the card placement. I saw on an
> 'Unofficial' KT7A FAQ a good description of how IRQs are assiged on
> the board and how they're shared:
>
> http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2&fcid=26
>
> Tried to follow this as best as I could but there's room for
> improvement.
>
> To answer your ???:
>
> -Can't increase voltage specifically to the AGP slot but I do have
> something called "AGP Driving value". I'm not sure if it refers to
> strength of signal or timing, tho. By a suggstion at the above site I
> set it to 68 and that's what finally got it to connect...once. Left
> the setting there but it still takes many restarts to connect.
>
> -Tried both the version on the CDROM that came with it (4.1, I
> believe) and the latest from ATI. Both same result.
>
> -Tried the hotfix.
>
> -IRQ is assigned (as per ATI) in the BIOS.
>
> -I want to dump this Creative (Ensoniq) card. I think it's causing
> part of the OS problem but in troubleshooting the boot issue, I still
> had problems with the sound card (and everything else) removed. The
> boot problem is going to be resolved (if it can be) in the BIOS
> settings. I stripped the machine down to 1 stick of RAM, the CPU and
> the card and still had trouble.
>
> To anyone else following my sordid tale: I think when you hear this
> VIA/ATI problem in the various forums where it's being discussed, keep
> in mind I'm having this issue with a pretty highly rated PSU, Turbo
> Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply. I really don't think it's a power
> problem as much as a timing issue at the AGP interface. If you're
> having this boot problem, it's more likely VIA's than ATI's.
>
> C.
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:33:59 GMT, Mike <Mike@att.net> wrote:
>
> >I don't know anything about the ABIT board, but a few thoughts come to
> >mind. I had several problems with my ATI coming up with no signal. Can
> >you increase the voltage to the Vid Card and the RAM? I run Vid at 1.60
> >and RAM at 2.7 and they are stable. What ATI Catalyst drivers are you
> >using? I have heard of issues from 3.7 to 4.1. I reloaded several
> >times until it finally took form the OEM CD verson 3.1, then updated to
> >4.3 and it is fine. I have another mainboard with a VIA chipset and an
> >ATI VIVO card. It was very picky to get it to work right. Also, do you
> >have the Hotfix from Microsoft for DirectX9b and ATI video cards? Can
> >ou set to BIOS to assign IRQ to the Video card and not share. Creative
> >and ATI are known for being IRQ hogs and you have SCSI cards and an
> >ethernet on the same IRQ. Just a thought.
> >
> >Chuck wrote:
> >> OK, this may push me over the edge...
> >>
> >> After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
> >> at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
> >> others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
> >> without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
> >> exaggeration! See my post
> >> Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
> >> for all those gory details.
> >>
> >> I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
> >> now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
> >> fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
> >> won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
> >> Manager.
> >>
> >> I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
> >>
> >> My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
> >>
> >> Format C: to NTFS
> >> Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
> >> Services)
> >> Install SP4
> >> Install the latest Hyperion drivers
> >> Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
> >> DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
> >> So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
> >> Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
> >> website and got the same result.
> >>
> >> What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
> >> the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
> >> your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
> >> the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
> >> state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
> >> 5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
> >> and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
> >> message above pops up.
> >>
> >> No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
> >> the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
> >> going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
> >> load!
> >>
> >> System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
> >> Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
> >> \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
> >> the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
> >> PCTest which tells me:
> >>
> >> Test result:
> >>
> >> WDM devices INF file not installed.
> >> WDM devices are not listed in registry.
> >> WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
> >> WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
> >>
> >> Duh.
> >>
> >> Shared IRQ list:
> >> Resource Device
> >> IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
> >> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> >> IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
> >> IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
> >> (3C905C-TX) #2
> >> IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> >> IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> >> IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
> >>
> >> System specs:
> >> Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
> >> AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
> >> 1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
> >> Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
> >> Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
> >> Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
> >> Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
> >> 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
> >> Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
> >>
> >> No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
> >> guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
> >>
> >> If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
> >> cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
> >>
> >> Chuck
>
April 6, 2004 6:56:05 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

I'm not sure without checking the BIOS, but I think my driving value on
my Tyan Trinity 400 is EC. I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro VIVO with one
shared IRQ and my Creative SB Live is shared by one. The sound and
video are two separate IRQ's. I did have to switch my PCI cards around
a bit to make it work. The ATI card is AGP. I have a Promise card,
Modem, USB 2.0 card, Creative SB Live all PCI with some sharing. They
all work well. Check on the different VIA drivers and use the one that
may seem the best. One thing I have found with VIA chipsets is when you
have the drivers that work, don't upgrade. Another thought, I that BIOS
set to look for AGP first and PCI second?

pjp wrote:
> I use EC as the AGP driving value on this Tyan trinity mb using a Radeon
> 7200 if that's any help.
>
> "Chuck" <NotGiven@inPublic.org> wrote in message
> news:r0o370dk25agheglhvuo0qq7m1lv0gcd50@4ax.com...
>
>>Thanks for the reply Mike.
>>
>>I'm beginning to think it is the card placement. I saw on an
>>'Unofficial' KT7A FAQ a good description of how IRQs are assiged on
>>the board and how they're shared:
>>
>>http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2&fcid=26
>>
>>Tried to follow this as best as I could but there's room for
>>improvement.
>>
>>To answer your ???:
>>
>>-Can't increase voltage specifically to the AGP slot but I do have
>>something called "AGP Driving value". I'm not sure if it refers to
>>strength of signal or timing, tho. By a suggstion at the above site I
>>set it to 68 and that's what finally got it to connect...once. Left
>>the setting there but it still takes many restarts to connect.
>>
>>-Tried both the version on the CDROM that came with it (4.1, I
>>believe) and the latest from ATI. Both same result.
>>
>>-Tried the hotfix.
>>
>>-IRQ is assigned (as per ATI) in the BIOS.
>>
>>-I want to dump this Creative (Ensoniq) card. I think it's causing
>>part of the OS problem but in troubleshooting the boot issue, I still
>>had problems with the sound card (and everything else) removed. The
>>boot problem is going to be resolved (if it can be) in the BIOS
>>settings. I stripped the machine down to 1 stick of RAM, the CPU and
>>the card and still had trouble.
>>
>>To anyone else following my sordid tale: I think when you hear this
>>VIA/ATI problem in the various forums where it's being discussed, keep
>>in mind I'm having this issue with a pretty highly rated PSU, Turbo
>>Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply. I really don't think it's a power
>>problem as much as a timing issue at the AGP interface. If you're
>>having this boot problem, it's more likely VIA's than ATI's.
>>
>>C.
>>
>>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:33:59 GMT, Mike <Mike@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know anything about the ABIT board, but a few thoughts come to
>>>mind. I had several problems with my ATI coming up with no signal. Can
>>>you increase the voltage to the Vid Card and the RAM? I run Vid at 1.60
>>>and RAM at 2.7 and they are stable. What ATI Catalyst drivers are you
>>>using? I have heard of issues from 3.7 to 4.1. I reloaded several
>>>times until it finally took form the OEM CD verson 3.1, then updated to
>>>4.3 and it is fine. I have another mainboard with a VIA chipset and an
>>>ATI VIVO card. It was very picky to get it to work right. Also, do you
>>>have the Hotfix from Microsoft for DirectX9b and ATI video cards? Can
>>>ou set to BIOS to assign IRQ to the Video card and not share. Creative
>>>and ATI are known for being IRQ hogs and you have SCSI cards and an
>>>ethernet on the same IRQ. Just a thought.
>>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, this may push me over the edge...
>>>>
>>>>After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
>>>>at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
>>>>others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
>>>>without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
>>>>exaggeration! See my post
>>>>Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
>>>>for all those gory details.
>>>>
>>>>I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
>>>>now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
>>>>fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
>>>>won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
>>>>Manager.
>>>>
>>>>I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
>>>>
>>>>My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Format C: to NTFS
>>>>Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
>>>>Services)
>>>>Install SP4
>>>>Install the latest Hyperion drivers
>>>>Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
>>>>DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
>>>>So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
>>>>Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
>>>>website and got the same result.
>>>>
>>>>What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
>>>>the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
>>>>your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
>>>>the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
>>>>state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
>>>>5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
>>>>and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
>>>>message above pops up.
>>>>
>>>>No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
>>>>the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
>>>>going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
>>>>load!
>>>>
>>>>System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
>>>>Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
>>>>\SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
>>>>the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
>>>>PCTest which tells me:
>>>>
>>>>Test result:
>>>>
>>>>WDM devices INF file not installed.
>>>>WDM devices are not listed in registry.
>>>>WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
>>>>WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
>>>>
>>>>Duh.
>>>>
>>>>Shared IRQ list:
>>>>Resource Device
>>>>IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
>>>>IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>>>>IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>>>>IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
>>>>(3C905C-TX) #2
>>>>IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>>>>IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>>>>IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>>>>
>>>>System specs:
>>>>Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
>>>>AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
>>>>1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
>>>>Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
>>>>Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>>>>Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>>>>Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>>>>3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
>>>>Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
>>>>
>>>>No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
>>>>guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
>>>>
>>>>If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
>>>>cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>
>
>
April 15, 2004 2:54:12 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit (More info?)

Hi Mike,

Can you tell me which slot your soundcard is plugged in?

tnx.

Chuck

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:56:05 GMT, Mike <Mike@att.net> wrote:

>I'm not sure without checking the BIOS, but I think my driving value on
>my Tyan Trinity 400 is EC. I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro VIVO with one
>shared IRQ and my Creative SB Live is shared by one. The sound and
>video are two separate IRQ's. I did have to switch my PCI cards around
>a bit to make it work. The ATI card is AGP. I have a Promise card,
>Modem, USB 2.0 card, Creative SB Live all PCI with some sharing. They
>all work well. Check on the different VIA drivers and use the one that
>may seem the best. One thing I have found with VIA chipsets is when you
>have the drivers that work, don't upgrade. Another thought, I that BIOS
>set to look for AGP first and PCI second?
>
>pjp wrote:
>> I use EC as the AGP driving value on this Tyan trinity mb using a Radeon
>> 7200 if that's any help.
>>
>> "Chuck" <NotGiven@inPublic.org> wrote in message
>> news:r0o370dk25agheglhvuo0qq7m1lv0gcd50@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Thanks for the reply Mike.
>>>
>>>I'm beginning to think it is the card placement. I saw on an
>>>'Unofficial' KT7A FAQ a good description of how IRQs are assiged on
>>>the board and how they're shared:
>>>
>>>http://www.sudhian.com/showfaqs.cfm?fid=2&fcid=26
>>>
>>>Tried to follow this as best as I could but there's room for
>>>improvement.
>>>
>>>To answer your ???:
>>>
>>>-Can't increase voltage specifically to the AGP slot but I do have
>>>something called "AGP Driving value". I'm not sure if it refers to
>>>strength of signal or timing, tho. By a suggstion at the above site I
>>>set it to 68 and that's what finally got it to connect...once. Left
>>>the setting there but it still takes many restarts to connect.
>>>
>>>-Tried both the version on the CDROM that came with it (4.1, I
>>>believe) and the latest from ATI. Both same result.
>>>
>>>-Tried the hotfix.
>>>
>>>-IRQ is assigned (as per ATI) in the BIOS.
>>>
>>>-I want to dump this Creative (Ensoniq) card. I think it's causing
>>>part of the OS problem but in troubleshooting the boot issue, I still
>>>had problems with the sound card (and everything else) removed. The
>>>boot problem is going to be resolved (if it can be) in the BIOS
>>>settings. I stripped the machine down to 1 stick of RAM, the CPU and
>>>the card and still had trouble.
>>>
>>>To anyone else following my sordid tale: I think when you hear this
>>>VIA/ATI problem in the various forums where it's being discussed, keep
>>>in mind I'm having this issue with a pretty highly rated PSU, Turbo
>>>Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply. I really don't think it's a power
>>>problem as much as a timing issue at the AGP interface. If you're
>>>having this boot problem, it's more likely VIA's than ATI's.
>>>
>>>C.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:33:59 GMT, Mike <Mike@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know anything about the ABIT board, but a few thoughts come to
>>>>mind. I had several problems with my ATI coming up with no signal. Can
>>>>you increase the voltage to the Vid Card and the RAM? I run Vid at 1.60
>>>>and RAM at 2.7 and they are stable. What ATI Catalyst drivers are you
>>>>using? I have heard of issues from 3.7 to 4.1. I reloaded several
>>>>times until it finally took form the OEM CD verson 3.1, then updated to
>>>>4.3 and it is fine. I have another mainboard with a VIA chipset and an
>>>>ATI VIVO card. It was very picky to get it to work right. Also, do you
>>>>have the Hotfix from Microsoft for DirectX9b and ATI video cards? Can
>>>>ou set to BIOS to assign IRQ to the Video card and not share. Creative
>>>>and ATI are known for being IRQ hogs and you have SCSI cards and an
>>>>ethernet on the same IRQ. Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>OK, this may push me over the edge...
>>>>>
>>>>>After flogging this ATI-built, AIW 9600XT for the past week trying to
>>>>>at least get it to boot (no video signal, same as has afflicted many
>>>>>others) I finally got everything running. Just can't power it off
>>>>>without expecting to have to hit the power switch 30 to 40 times, no
>>>>>exaggeration! See my post
>>>>>Message-ID: <lbuc60p18mioccfd10a33d2223jas38a1u@4ax.com>
>>>>>for all those gory details.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've even watched a bit of television, got it fully functioning. But
>>>>>now something is whacked. As the subject says the TV Aduio Crossbar
>>>>>fails to start and consequently the WDM Rage Theater Audio and Video
>>>>>won't start. All three have the yellow exclamation mark in Device
>>>>>Manager.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've gone so far as to reinstall the entire OS and still...
>>>>>
>>>>>My procedure for Windows 2000 Server installation goes as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>Format C: to NTFS
>>>>>Install the OS which has SP2 slipstreamed (don't install Terminal
>>>>>Services)
>>>>>Install SP4
>>>>>Install the latest Hyperion drivers
>>>>>Install all Critical patches and then most of the Recommended plus
>>>>>DX9.0b and Windows Media Player.
>>>>>So far all in VGA mode, 800x600
>>>>>Install the stuff from the CDROM. I tried the latest from ATI's
>>>>>website and got the same result.
>>>>>
>>>>>What happens the first time it starts after this is consistent. When
>>>>>the bootup has gotten to the point where the window says "Configuring
>>>>>your Network connections", well into the GUI, it either freezes and
>>>>>the mouse disappears, or it BSODs.I once let it sit in it's frozen
>>>>>state for a couple hours and it didn't budge. I've repeated this 4 or
>>>>>5 times, the whole install process as I've written it. So I restart
>>>>>and it then goes thru, but the devices aren't started and the error
>>>>>message above pops up.
>>>>>
>>>>>No amount of uninstalling the specific devices, or reinstalling just
>>>>>the WDM components, or uninstalling the entire software suite (and
>>>>>going thru a full cleanup after, and rebooting) will get these to
>>>>>load!
>>>>>
>>>>>System Iformation only says "Error code 10".
>>>>>Running the boot log tells me:"Did not load driver
>>>>>\SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atinxsxx.sys" but of course no reason and
>>>>>the file is there. ATI tells me nothing cuz there're no logs! Except
>>>>>PCTest which tells me:
>>>>>
>>>>>Test result:
>>>>>
>>>>>WDM devices INF file not installed.
>>>>>WDM devices are not listed in registry.
>>>>>WDM devices are not loaded or enumerated by the device manager.
>>>>>WDM devices are not registered with DirectShow
>>>>>
>>>>>Duh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shared IRQ list:
>>>>>Resource Device
>>>>>IRQ 7 ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
>>>>>IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>>>>>IRQ 7 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
>>>>>IRQ 7 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC
>>>>>(3C905C-TX) #2
>>>>>IRQ 7 Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>>>>>IRQ 7 Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>>>>>IRQ 7 Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>>>>>
>>>>>System specs:
>>>>>Abit KT7a (rev. 1.0) Motherboard
>>>>>AMD T-bird 1.2G (unlocked)
>>>>>1G Atlas Precision SDRAM
>>>>>Turbo Cool 510-ATX-PFC power supply
>>>>>Win2000 Promise Ultra100 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
>>>>>Adaptec AHA-2930CU PCI SCSI Controller
>>>>>Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM)
>>>>>3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
>>>>>Built by ATI, AIW 9600XT
>>>>>
>>>>>No overclocking, but BIOS is optimized to Ars; and Paul's and Rojak's
>>>>>guides with consideration given to ATI's recs.
>>>>>
>>>>>If anyone thinks they can help and would like more info, I'll gladly
>>>>>cough it up. This is really buggin' me!
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>
>>
>>
!