9800SE -> 9800PRO, a strange thing.....

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On 26 Apr 2004 16:43:24 -0700, veltar@despammed.com (Veltar) wrote:

>Hello to everyone, i just bought a brand new XpertVision ATI Radeon
>9800SE, it got the "L" memories and a 256 bit memory bus. I just
>modded
>the board to a 9800PRO with the Omega drivers and on the windows XP
>desktop it's all ok. It's okay also with games like Call of Duty,
>Vietcong, Neverwinter Nights, Unreal 2 and with the benchmarks
>3DMARK2001 and Aquamark...the problems come when i run the 3DMARK2003.
>The first test (wings of fury) runs perfeclty but the second one, the
>third one and the fourth one (Proxicon, Trolls Lair and Mother Nature)
>the card shows few artifacts (the artifacts decrease if i active the
>AA and AN filters at 4X). Can someone explain this? It's not a problem
>of
>overclock cause i downclocked very much but the problem still remains.
>Thanks to all in advance!!!

The cure for this is to not run 3DMark2003. If there is no problem
with the software you use then don't worry about it. Perhaps I have
the same problem. I don't know as I only run 3DMark2001SE. If you have
run that, I would be very interested to know your score.
--

Julian Richards
computer "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines 438/364 with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives

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On 27 Apr 2004 01:43:08 -0700, veltar@despammed.com (Veltar) wrote:

>Julian Richards <see@sig.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4k8r80divhphjb3oqul6c7ffbg5gllautu@4ax.com>...
>
>> The cure for this is to not run 3DMark2003. If there is no problem
>> with the software you use then don't worry about it. Perhaps I have
>> the same problem. I don't know as I only run 3DMark2001SE. If you have
>> run that, I would be very interested to know your score.
>
>I'd like to test the card on full DX9 compliant games like Far Cry,

Then try the demo

>anyway the core frequency you use is too high for my SpertVision. My
>system and my score:
>
>Athlon XP 2600+
>AsRock K7S8X
>512 Mb 333
>80 GB Hitachi
>XpertVision 9800se@pro 408/342
>
>score 3DMark2001 (not "SE" ): 13000

14000

Which seems low to me but perhaps there are a few braggers about.
Anyway, mine (and I assume yours) can eat up anything that's around at
present.
--

Julian Richards
computer "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines 438/364 with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives

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Most probably you just get a 'true' 9800SE.

IE a 9800 Pro that dont pass all the tests for a retail 9800 Pro but still
ok with half pipes desactivated.

In other words, bad luck

"Veltar" <veltar@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:eeab307d.0404261543.ea9c31b@posting.google.com...
> Hello to everyone, i just bought a brand new XpertVision ATI Radeon
> 9800SE, it got the "L" memories and a 256 bit memory bus. I just
> modded
> the board to a 9800PRO with the Omega drivers and on the windows XP
> desktop it's all ok. It's okay also with games like Call of Duty,
> Vietcong, Neverwinter Nights, Unreal 2 and with the benchmarks
> 3DMARK2001 and Aquamark...the problems come when i run the 3DMARK2003.
> The first test (wings of fury) runs perfeclty but the second one, the
> third one and the fourth one (Proxicon, Trolls Lair and Mother Nature)
> the card shows few artifacts (the artifacts decrease if i active the
> AA and AN filters at 4X). Can someone explain this? It's not a problem
> of
> overclock cause i downclocked very much but the problem still remains.
> Thanks to all in advance!!!
>
> Max.

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:03:38 +0100, Julian Richards <see@sig.co.uk>
waffled on about something:

>On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:42:11 +0100, Dodgy
><Dodgy@earth.planet.universe> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:47:17 +0100, Julian Richards <see@sig.co.uk>
>>waffled on about something:
>>
>>>On 27 Apr 2004 01:43:08 -0700, veltar@despammed.com (Veltar) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Julian Richards <see@sig.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4k8r80divhphjb3oqul6c7ffbg5gllautu@4ax.com>...
>>>>
>>>>> The cure for this is to not run 3DMark2003. If there is no problem
>>>>> with the software you use then don't worry about it. Perhaps I have
>>>>> the same problem. I don't know as I only run 3DMark2001SE. If you have
>>>>> run that, I would be very interested to know your score.
>>>>
>>>>I'd like to test the card on full DX9 compliant games like Far Cry,
>>>
>>>Then try the demo
>>>
>>>>anyway the core frequency you use is too high for my SpertVision. My
>>>>system and my score:
>>>>
>>>>Athlon XP 2600+
>>>>AsRock K7S8X
>>>>512 Mb 333
>>>>80 GB Hitachi
>>>>XpertVision 9800se@pro 408/342
>>>>
>>>>score 3DMark2001 (not "SE" ): 13000
>>>
>>>14000
>>>
>>>Which seems low to me but perhaps there are a few braggers about.
>>>Anyway, mine (and I assume yours) can eat up anything that's around at
>>>present.
>>
>>I'm not sure what kind of difference there is between 3dmark2001se and
>>non-se, but I get over 17000 in se (I don't have the older one) with a
>>standard clocked, but pipe unlocked AIW 9800se running on a p4c 3.0Ghz
>>pc with 1Ghz dual channel ram.
>
>My 9800SE is clocked faster than yours but you have a faster processor
>and ram and I suspect faster motherboard as well. When I feel that I
>don't have enough speed, I'll swap MB bios to the Cheepoman hacked
>version and use his memory tweak.

Gigabyte GA8-KNXP, Intel 875p chipset, corsair twin LL 3200DDR match
pair ram... ;-)

Can't remember what bios I'm running though, I must have tried 5
different version including beta's to get the memory to run up
properly.

D0d6y.
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