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I'm not sure how to answer some of your questions.
Here's what I can say:
The 2001 Radeons (Radeon 7000 and Radeon Mac Edition, a.k.a. 7200) are
an older, less powerful design than the 8500.
The card's part number is white lettering that's directly on the card.
"Deep sleep" still doesn't work, but there is a also a PCI card
installed that doesn't support it either.
The available firmware updates won't run on it (maybe because they have
a lower version number than what's on the card?).
I "fixed" the TV-out always being on (when connected) by using an
s-video extension cable to let me easily unplug the TV connection when
not needed. It turns out that it's actually normal, at least for the Mac
version, to have the VRAM divided in half when a second screen is
connected.I had thought it was a problem because in my old Mac (with a
1st generation, retail PCI Radeon Mac Edition) the full VRAM showed as
being available on both screens.
The drivers for OS X 10.2.8 from ATI's website work for both OEM and
retail cards for basic functions. There is a freeware patch called
Radeon Enabler that makes the ATI Displays control panel recognize the
card and allows the OpenGL overrides to work. It's available from
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/23472
Also, for what it's worth, a shareware utility shows my card as having
an R200 GPU, 250MHz GPU speed, and 275MHz RAM speed. I got it from
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24119
It edits code in "flashers" to allow for overclocking, but it can also
be used to identify and provide basic info about the card (just quit it
without navigating to any firmware flashers).
Brian W wrote:
> This has been a very interesting thread because of the availability of
> "flashed' versions of the ATI 8500 series card for use on the Mac and
> the confusion caused by the many variations of ATI cards.
>
> However, I am not sure of the differences, if any, between the card
> you purchased (bearing ATI part number 109 85700 00.) and the
> "first-generation, 2001 Radeons " mentioned in one of the replies? Is
> your card a "Radeon" card? What exactly does Radeon mean? Does anyone
> know what features / drawbacks apply to the 2001 card when compared to
> other Mac 8500 Radeon cards? Also, is the ATI part number actually
> silkscreened white lettering onto the board, or is the part number
> printed under the soldermask, i.e. looking like part of the printed
> circuit?
>
> You mentioned Apple System Profiler said the card was incompatible
> with the Mac's deep sleep mode. Did this turn out to be the case?
> Did you overcome the problem with a software patch of any kind?
>
> Also, did you manage to fix the TV-out always being 'on' ? If so, how
> was that achieved?
>
> Finally, can you list any software patches (and any firmware updates)
> you have installed to get the card to work to your satisfaction in
> OSX.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Dave H <sneezeguard750@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<413817EE.8070401@netscape.net>...
>
>>I have found out from the author of a software patch for Mac Radeon
>>cards that the ROM name on my card is the same one used in Mac Xserve
>>Radeon 8500s. Since this ROM version isn't downloadable, it's more than
>>likely a real Mac card.
>>I have mixed and matched drivers for it in OS 9 and it's working well.
>>The only remaining issue is that I can't use TV-out for DVD playback in
>>OS 9 (OS X playback works though). There doesn't seem to be a Rage
>>Theater chip on the card, maybe that's the problem.
>