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"... BTW, have you seen screen shots of graphics generated by ATI's
3DC tech? 3DC could turn out to be a 'make or break' deal for
me, especially since half-life 2 is reported to use it.
...."
No, can you post links?
Thanks,
Mike
"jeff b" <fakeaddy@fjyfj.com> wrote in message
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> Mike P wrote:
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> > Far Cry is a good reason...
> > My xp3200/9800pro struggles with high settings with Far Cry if I use
AA/AF.
> > I have 512mb ram nd tried 1G, which worked better. I have to use
> > performance mip map and textures with the drivers to keep the framerate
good
> > at 1024/2xAA/4xAF/high quality settings in game.
> > People post how well it runs with lower spec machines but I've seen 2
other
> > machines of similar spec and one with a 9600pro and they have similar
> > performance, it isn't a bug with my system. I consider less than 30fps
bad
> > and I look at the low points (except the occasional very intense
situation)
> > to see how things run. A lot of people look at their frame rates inside
and
> > say they're fine but what matters is when the action intensifies as that
is
> > when you need a decent framerate...
> > SO, Far Cry is one reason to get this card. It's the only gane I've
played
> > that could slow my system down, even with AA/AF. I just went from the
3.10
> > to the 4.5 drivers when I saw far cry struggling, btw, and I'm not sure
how
> > much it helped because I did some driver tweaking at the same time
(lowered
> > quality settings). Also, I disabled AV and other processes not required
> > before launching the game. And I'm just into the training, just got the
> > game and I'm trying to find the sweet spot for settings before I get
into
> > it. Before far cry it was easy, all hq and 2x or 4xAA/8xAF depending on
the
> > game...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
>
> Far Cry defies conventional wisdom in a way not previously reported
> in any post I've read:
> The absolute is that a game needs
> 40 fps to run smoothly. This is true in any game except FC.
> But with FC, I get a noticeable 'mouse lag' effect starting at
> about 75 fps, and getting progressively worse as fps decrease.
> At 35 fps, the problem is so bad, manuvering through the map makes
> me motion sick. At 1280x768, the game plays crisp, super responsive.
> At 1920x1200, it's like trying a push an object with a string,
> the direct coupling isn't there.
> I'm only a short distance into the first map, and I'm trying to find
> the best tradeoff between mouse lag, and graphics. I don't like the
> mouse lag, but I don't like the 'ugly' graphics of 1280x768,
> especially with anio and aa turned off.
> I've decided to stop playing FC for now and wait for the
> x800xt to come out, since all the reviews show it handles
> FC much better than the x800 pro.
>
> Unlike the hordes of people who currently have a 9800 pro,
> I really really need a new card, I've got a wimpy nvidia 5600u
> So, the question isn't
> upgrade or not, rather, what to upgrade to? Obviously,
> the nvidia 6800u is a possibility, but it is no better in FC
> than the x800pro, and they both get smeared by the x800xt.
> To make matters worse, this x800pro seems to cause my HDTV tuner card
> to crash, something that started to happen exactly when I changed out
> my nvidia card for the x800pro. This suggests that no ATI card will
> work for HDTV, which implies I have no choice, I have to go
> with nvidia. I'm experimenting with factors such as drivers to see
> if I can get the x800to work with my HDTV card cause I'm strongly leaning
> towards the x800xt solution. If it turns out that my HDTV card simply
> won't with the ATI, but does with the 6800u, then I have only bad
> choices.
>
> BTW, have you seen screen shots of graphics generated by ATI's
> 3DC tech? 3DC could turn out to be a 'make or break' deal for
> me, especially since half-life 2 is reported to use it.
>
> Jeff B
>
>
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