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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)
No, xp sp2 is ALSO affected by serious networking problems if 885250 is
installed; the files in random folders become inaccessible, among other
issues--and this is true even on networks consisting only of windows xp sp2
machines.
"Malke" <noreply@invalid.com> wrote in message
news
bppIOFFFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Outrage wrote:
>
>> KB885250 is causing problems when files or applications are shared
>> from Windows 95/98/Me machines. In the case of our DOS multi-user
>> database application, if the application and data reside on a 95/98/Me
>> machine, a user on XP that has this security update installed is not
>> allowed to create any files from the application on the host machine.
>>
>> This is a major problem, and the only solution I have at this point is
>> to have users uninstall this update.
>>
>> Is anyone aware of a way to install the update and change something
>> that will allow shared files and applications on 95/98/Me machines to
>> function properly?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Here's information I found provided by another MVP:
>
> KB885250, an update from 2/8/2005 can cause file and printer sharing
> problems under Windows networking and SAMBA.
>
> XP SP2 clients seem unaffected, the issue surfacing for XP SP1 clients
> with this hotfix applied. If your attempt to use SMB shares seems
> compromised after last week's hotfixes, remove KB885250.
>
> See this MS Knowledge Base article:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-011.mspx
>
> Check in the section "Vulnerability Details, Workarounds" for several
> approaches to providing the protection of the hotfix without using the
> hotfix.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)
Yes! I have also experienced this problem (search this NG for other 885250
posts).
The strange this is, I've only experienced this on AMD machines. I applied
the update to all my XP-2 machines at work (Intel), and everything was fun.
But at home, all machines are AMD, and the randomly (but consistent)
dissappearing files problem is at hand...
"Manuel Lopez" <manuel.email.at.post.harvard.edu@deadspam.com> wrote in
news:37imk6F5974i8U1@individual.net:
> No, xp sp2 is ALSO affected by serious networking problems if 885250
> is installed; the files in random folders become inaccessible, among
> other issues--and this is true even on networks consisting only of
> windows xp sp2 machines.
>
>
> "Malke" <noreply@invalid.com> wrote in message
> newsbppIOFFFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Outrage wrote:
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)
Hello Manuel Lopez,
I have been fighting this problem for several of my clients, I found a
hotfix that did not work, I still have the problem and I have also tested
this from a CMD prompt and here is my results.
When I isssue a "Dir" command by itself it reports no files or folders.
if I issue a "dir *.exe" I can see all the executables.
I have opened a ticket with MS and when they resolve the issue I will update
this post.
Garyp
==============================================
Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir
Volume in drive Z has no label.
Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
File Not Found
Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir *.exe
Volume in drive Z has no label.
Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
03/22/2005 07:13 AM 12,337,752 en_windows_server_2003_reskit.exe
03/30/2005 02:35 PM 392,552 q329357_WXP_SP1_x86_ENU.exe
03/30/2005 11:46 AM 12,337,752 rktools.exe
03/18/2005 08:55 AM 4,934,480 WindowsXP-KB838079-SupportTools-ENU.exe
4 File(s) 30,002,536 bytes
0 Dir(s) 49,053,638,656 bytes free
Z:\2003 Resource Kit>
"Manuel Lopez" wrote:
> No, xp sp2 is ALSO affected by serious networking problems if 885250 is
> installed; the files in random folders become inaccessible, among other
> issues--and this is true even on networks consisting only of windows xp sp2
> machines.
>
>
> "Malke" <noreply@invalid.com> wrote in message
> newsbppIOFFFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Outrage wrote:
> >
> >> KB885250 is causing problems when files or applications are shared
> >> from Windows 95/98/Me machines. In the case of our DOS multi-user
> >> database application, if the application and data reside on a 95/98/Me
> >> machine, a user on XP that has this security update installed is not
> >> allowed to create any files from the application on the host machine.
> >>
> >> This is a major problem, and the only solution I have at this point is
> >> to have users uninstall this update.
> >>
> >> Is anyone aware of a way to install the update and change something
> >> that will allow shared files and applications on 95/98/Me machines to
> >> function properly?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> > Here's information I found provided by another MVP:
> >
> > KB885250, an update from 2/8/2005 can cause file and printer sharing
> > problems under Windows networking and SAMBA.
> >
> > XP SP2 clients seem unaffected, the issue surfacing for XP SP1 clients
> > with this hotfix applied. If your attempt to use SMB shares seems
> > compromised after last week's hotfixes, remove KB885250.
> >
> > See this MS Knowledge Base article:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-011.mspx
> >
> > Check in the section "Vulnerability Details, Workarounds" for several
> > approaches to providing the protection of the hotfix without using the
> > hotfix.
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
> > Elephant Boy Computers
> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> > "Don't Panic!"
>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)
Thanks for your note. I'm waiting for xp sp3 to fix the problem (I assume
it will be fixed by then), and have removed kb 885250 from my systems and
also hidden it from appearing on windows update.
"Garyp" <grp@tksol.com> wrote in message
news:649306C7-555E-471B-9892-74038105E32B@microsoft.com...
> Hello Manuel Lopez,
>
> I have been fighting this problem for several of my clients, I found a
> hotfix that did not work, I still have the problem and I have also tested
> this from a CMD prompt and here is my results.
>
> When I isssue a "Dir" command by itself it reports no files or folders.
>
> if I issue a "dir *.exe" I can see all the executables.
>
> I have opened a ticket with MS and when they resolve the issue I will
> update
> this post.
>
> Garyp
>
> ==============================================
>
> Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir
> Volume in drive Z has no label.
> Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
>
> Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
>
> File Not Found
>
> Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir *.exe
> Volume in drive Z has no label.
> Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
>
> Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
>
> 03/22/2005 07:13 AM 12,337,752 en_windows_server_2003_reskit.exe
> 03/30/2005 02:35 PM 392,552 q329357_WXP_SP1_x86_ENU.exe
> 03/30/2005 11:46 AM 12,337,752 rktools.exe
> 03/18/2005 08:55 AM 4,934,480
> WindowsXP-KB838079-SupportTools-ENU.exe
> 4 File(s) 30,002,536 bytes
> 0 Dir(s) 49,053,638,656 bytes free
>
> Z:\2003 Resource Kit>
>
>
>
>
> "Manuel Lopez" wrote:
>
>> No, xp sp2 is ALSO affected by serious networking problems if 885250 is
>> installed; the files in random folders become inaccessible, among other
>> issues--and this is true even on networks consisting only of windows xp
>> sp2
>> machines.
>>
>>
>> "Malke" <noreply@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> newsbppIOFFFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > Outrage wrote:
>> >
>> >> KB885250 is causing problems when files or applications are shared
>> >> from Windows 95/98/Me machines. In the case of our DOS multi-user
>> >> database application, if the application and data reside on a 95/98/Me
>> >> machine, a user on XP that has this security update installed is not
>> >> allowed to create any files from the application on the host machine.
>> >>
>> >> This is a major problem, and the only solution I have at this point is
>> >> to have users uninstall this update.
>> >>
>> >> Is anyone aware of a way to install the update and change something
>> >> that will allow shared files and applications on 95/98/Me machines to
>> >> function properly?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >
>> > Here's information I found provided by another MVP:
>> >
>> > KB885250, an update from 2/8/2005 can cause file and printer sharing
>> > problems under Windows networking and SAMBA.
>> >
>> > XP SP2 clients seem unaffected, the issue surfacing for XP SP1 clients
>> > with this hotfix applied. If your attempt to use SMB shares seems
>> > compromised after last week's hotfixes, remove KB885250.
>> >
>> > See this MS Knowledge Base article:
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-011.mspx
>> >
>> > Check in the section "Vulnerability Details, Workarounds" for several
>> > approaches to providing the protection of the hotfix without using the
>> > hotfix.
>> >
>> > Malke
>> > --
>> > MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> > Elephant Boy Computers
>> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> > "Don't Panic!"
>>
>>
>>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsupdate,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web,microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)
MS have at last acknowledged some of the problems with this hotfix.
Go to
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895900/
for details of another patch to fix the problem - if their comments apply.
Sounds like a new hotfix is on the way from Win Update
"Manuel Lopez" wrote:
> Thanks for your note. I'm waiting for xp sp3 to fix the problem (I assume
> it will be fixed by then), and have removed kb 885250 from my systems and
> also hidden it from appearing on windows update.
>
>
> "Garyp" <grp@tksol.com> wrote in message
> news:649306C7-555E-471B-9892-74038105E32B@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Manuel Lopez,
> >
> > I have been fighting this problem for several of my clients, I found a
> > hotfix that did not work, I still have the problem and I have also tested
> > this from a CMD prompt and here is my results.
> >
> > When I isssue a "Dir" command by itself it reports no files or folders.
> >
> > if I issue a "dir *.exe" I can see all the executables.
> >
> > I have opened a ticket with MS and when they resolve the issue I will
> > update
> > this post.
> >
> > Garyp
> >
> > ==============================================
> >
> > Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir
> > Volume in drive Z has no label.
> > Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
> >
> > Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
> >
> > File Not Found
> >
> > Z:\2003 Resource Kit>dir *.exe
> > Volume in drive Z has no label.
> > Volume Serial Number is AAAA-AAAA
> >
> > Directory of Z:\2003 Resource Kit
> >
> > 03/22/2005 07:13 AM 12,337,752 en_windows_server_2003_reskit.exe
> > 03/30/2005 02:35 PM 392,552 q329357_WXP_SP1_x86_ENU.exe
> > 03/30/2005 11:46 AM 12,337,752 rktools.exe
> > 03/18/2005 08:55 AM 4,934,480
> > WindowsXP-KB838079-SupportTools-ENU.exe
> > 4 File(s) 30,002,536 bytes
> > 0 Dir(s) 49,053,638,656 bytes free
> >
> > Z:\2003 Resource Kit>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Manuel Lopez" wrote:
> >
> >> No, xp sp2 is ALSO affected by serious networking problems if 885250 is
> >> installed; the files in random folders become inaccessible, among other
> >> issues--and this is true even on networks consisting only of windows xp
> >> sp2
> >> machines.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Malke" <noreply@invalid.com> wrote in message
> >> newsbppIOFFFHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > Outrage wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> KB885250 is causing problems when files or applications are shared
> >> >> from Windows 95/98/Me machines. In the case of our DOS multi-user
> >> >> database application, if the application and data reside on a 95/98/Me
> >> >> machine, a user on XP that has this security update installed is not
> >> >> allowed to create any files from the application on the host machine.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a major problem, and the only solution I have at this point is
> >> >> to have users uninstall this update.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is anyone aware of a way to install the update and change something
> >> >> that will allow shared files and applications on 95/98/Me machines to
> >> >> function properly?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Here's information I found provided by another MVP:
> >> >
> >> > KB885250, an update from 2/8/2005 can cause file and printer sharing
> >> > problems under Windows networking and SAMBA.
> >> >
> >> > XP SP2 clients seem unaffected, the issue surfacing for XP SP1 clients
> >> > with this hotfix applied. If your attempt to use SMB shares seems
> >> > compromised after last week's hotfixes, remove KB885250.
> >> >
> >> > See this MS Knowledge Base article:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] 5-011.mspx
> >> >
> >> > Check in the section "Vulnerability Details, Workarounds" for several
> >> > approaches to providing the protection of the hotfix without using the
> >> > hotfix.
> >> >
> >> > Malke
> >> > --
> >> > MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> > Elephant Boy Computers
> >> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> >> > "Don't Panic!"
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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