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ATI releases beta Cats 4.9 for Doom 3

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August 3, 2004 7:34:05 PM

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Go get 'em while their hot... ATI just released beta Catalyst 4.9
drivers specifically with Doom 3 in mind (before 4.8 are even
official!)

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 4:27:22 AM

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Downloading now. Will provide benchmarks in about 30 minutes comparing CAT
4.5 to CAT 4.9 beta in Doom3

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"John" <arcanastream@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Go get 'em while their hot... ATI just released beta Catalyst 4.9
> drivers specifically with Doom 3 in mind (before 4.8 are even
> official!)
>
> http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 5:58:15 AM

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--System specs below--

[CAT 4.5]

"timedemo demo1"
1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 24.2fps
1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps

[CAT 4.9 beta]

"timedemo demo1"
1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 22.3fps
1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps


WTF?! Gained nothing at all with high AA and AF.... actually lost 2fps at
low AA and AF.

Very dissapointing.


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ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.5) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

120gb Western Digital WD1200JB primary/master
60gb IBM 60gxp primary/slave
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LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans, 1x80mm
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PowerMax 470watt Aluminum PSU | +3.3V@26A +5V@47A +12V@28A
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August 4, 2004 11:12:59 AM

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Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards as they
are the ones that will see the increases most.

--
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Microsoft MVP
http://www.activewin.com


"Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> --System specs below--
>
> [CAT 4.5]
>
> "timedemo demo1"
> 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 24.2fps
> 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
>
> [CAT 4.9 beta]
>
> "timedemo demo1"
> 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 22.3fps
> 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
>
>
> WTF?! Gained nothing at all with high AA and AF.... actually lost 2fps at
> low AA and AF.
>
> Very dissapointing.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -----------
> Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP1
> AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache
> ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro
> VIA Hyperion 4in1 451v
> 1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual Channel)
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.5) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
> (C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
> SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)
>
> 120gb Western Digital WD1200JB primary/master
> 60gb IBM 60gxp primary/slave
> 16x HI-VAL DVDrom (BDV316C) secondary/master
> 48x/24x/48x plextor (PX-W4824A) secondary/slave
>
> LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm
> exhaust fan
> PowerMax 470watt Aluminum PSU | +3.3V@26A +5V@47A +12V@28A
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -----------
>
> --
> Tony DiMarzio
> djtone81@hotmail.com
> djraid@comcast.net
>
>
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 11:47:05 AM

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"John" <arcanastream@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eb3d8c55.0408031434.4962a61d@posting.google.com...
> Go get 'em while their hot... ATI just released beta Catalyst 4.9
> drivers specifically with Doom 3 in mind (before 4.8 are even
> official!)
>
> http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

hmm doesnt seem that much faster - wonder what that fixes
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 11:47:06 AM

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I was wondering who would test it first.. wonder if it'll also speed up
general opengl applications...

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Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 5:54:47 PM

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:47:05 +0800, "Judas Pissed" <d@d.com> wrote:


>hmm doesnt seem that much faster - wonder what that fixes
>

It's the placebo effect ATI is going after.
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 7:29:58 PM

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Thanks Tony for the benchmarks..
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 7:29:59 PM

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No problem.

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djraid@comcast.net

"Heywood Jablowme" <a@a.a> wrote in message
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> Thanks Tony for the benchmarks..
>
>
August 4, 2004 10:15:28 PM

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whats this aa and af stuff how do you access it ?

smithy

"Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> wrote in message
news:%%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards as
they
> are the ones that will see the increases most.
>
> --
> Byron Hinson
> Microsoft MVP
> http://www.activewin.com
>
>
> "Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:t7KdnV4Vgt6b5o3cRVn-pg@comcast.com...
> > --System specs below--
> >
> > [CAT 4.5]
> >
> > "timedemo demo1"
> > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 24.2fps
> > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> >
> > [CAT 4.9 beta]
> >
> > "timedemo demo1"
> > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 22.3fps
> > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> >
> >
> > WTF?! Gained nothing at all with high AA and AF.... actually lost 2fps
at
> > low AA and AF.
> >
> > Very dissapointing.
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----------
> > Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP1
> > AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache
> > ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro
> > VIA Hyperion 4in1 451v
> > 1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel)
> > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.5) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
> > (C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
> > SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)
> >
> > 120gb Western Digital WD1200JB primary/master
> > 60gb IBM 60gxp primary/slave
> > 16x HI-VAL DVDrom (BDV316C) secondary/master
> > 48x/24x/48x plextor (PX-W4824A) secondary/slave
> >
> > LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
> 1x80mm
> > exhaust fan
> > PowerMax 470watt Aluminum PSU | +3.3V@26A +5V@47A +12V@28A
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----------
> >
> > --
> > Tony DiMarzio
> > djtone81@hotmail.com
> > djraid@comcast.net
> >
> >
>
>
August 4, 2004 10:15:29 PM

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Hi,

Anti-Aliasing and Anistropic Filtering.

Go to the 3D tab under display properties.
click open gl or D3D custom tabs.
You can either tick for application preference or manually change for
Quality or Performance.

Try some of the settings and give the game another go to see how looks or
performance has been affected.

Spence
"smithy" <smith@com.auy> wrote in message
news:xW0Qc.64$tX5.3769@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> whats this aa and af stuff how do you access it ?
>
> smithy
>
> "Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> wrote in message
> news:%%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> > Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards as
> they
> > are the ones that will see the increases most.
> >
> > --
> > Byron Hinson
> > Microsoft MVP
> > http://www.activewin.com
> >
> >
> > "Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:t7KdnV4Vgt6b5o3cRVn-pg@comcast.com...
> > > --System specs below--
> > >
> > > [CAT 4.5]
> > >
> > > "timedemo demo1"
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 24.2fps
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> > >
> > > [CAT 4.9 beta]
> > >
> > > "timedemo demo1"
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 22.3fps
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> > >
> > >
> > > WTF?! Gained nothing at all with high AA and AF.... actually lost 2fps
> at
> > > low AA and AF.
> > >
> > > Very dissapointing.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > -----------
> > > Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP1
> > > AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache
> > > ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro
> > > VIA Hyperion 4in1 451v
> > > 1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
> Channel)
> > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.5) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
> > > (C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
> > > SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)
> > >
> > > 120gb Western Digital WD1200JB primary/master
> > > 60gb IBM 60gxp primary/slave
> > > 16x HI-VAL DVDrom (BDV316C) secondary/master
> > > 48x/24x/48x plextor (PX-W4824A) secondary/slave
> > >
> > > LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
> > 1x80mm
> > > exhaust fan
> > > PowerMax 470watt Aluminum PSU | +3.3V@26A +5V@47A +12V@28A
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tony DiMarzio
> > > djtone81@hotmail.com
> > > djraid@comcast.net
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
August 4, 2004 10:15:29 PM

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Hi,

Anti-Aliasing and Anistropic Filtering.

Go to the 3D tab under display properties.
click open gl or D3D custom tabs.
You can either tick for application preference or manually change for
Quality or Performance.

Try some of the settings and give the game another go to see how looks or
performance has been affected.

Spence
"smithy" <smith@com.auy> wrote in message
news:xW0Qc.64$tX5.3769@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> whats this aa and af stuff how do you access it ?
>
> smithy
>
> "Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> wrote in message
> news:%%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> > Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards as
> they
> > are the ones that will see the increases most.
> >
> > --
> > Byron Hinson
> > Microsoft MVP
> > http://www.activewin.com
> >
> >
> > "Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:t7KdnV4Vgt6b5o3cRVn-pg@comcast.com...
> > > --System specs below--
> > >
> > > [CAT 4.5]
> > >
> > > "timedemo demo1"
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 24.2fps
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> > >
> > > [CAT 4.9 beta]
> > >
> > > "timedemo demo1"
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) 4x-AA 16x-AF = 22.3fps
> > > 1024x768 (D3-High Quality) NO-AA 8x-AF = 46.5fps
> > >
> > >
> > > WTF?! Gained nothing at all with high AA and AF.... actually lost 2fps
> at
> > > low AA and AF.
> > >
> > > Very dissapointing.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > -----------
> > > Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP1
> > > AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache
> > > ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro
> > > VIA Hyperion 4in1 451v
> > > 1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
> Channel)
> > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.5) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
> > > (C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
> > > SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)
> > >
> > > 120gb Western Digital WD1200JB primary/master
> > > 60gb IBM 60gxp primary/slave
> > > 16x HI-VAL DVDrom (BDV316C) secondary/master
> > > 48x/24x/48x plextor (PX-W4824A) secondary/slave
> > >
> > > LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
> > 1x80mm
> > > exhaust fan
> > > PowerMax 470watt Aluminum PSU | +3.3V@26A +5V@47A +12V@28A
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tony DiMarzio
> > > djtone81@hotmail.com
> > > djraid@comcast.net
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 10:52:44 PM

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"John" <arcanastream@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eb3d8c55.0408031434.4962a61d@posting.google.com...
> Go get 'em while their hot... ATI just released beta Catalyst 4.9
> drivers specifically with Doom 3 in mind (before 4.8 are even
> official!)
>
> http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

I've got them installed, was using 4.7s, on a 9800XT and have gained a
noticible improvement! I'm plesantly surprised. Still getting sparklies now
and then tho.
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 10:52:45 PM

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Please post your benchmarks pre and post 4.9 beta.

Otherwise, your analysis of 4.9's performance is subjective at best.

What fps did you get before and after at identical resolution, refresh rate,
color depth, AA, AF, and Doom3 quality settings with Vsync Off please.

--
Tony DiMarzio
djtone81@hotmail.com
djraid@comcast.net

"Jamie_Manic" <mmmm...pork rind> wrote in message
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>
> "John" <arcanastream@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eb3d8c55.0408031434.4962a61d@posting.google.com...
> > Go get 'em while their hot... ATI just released beta Catalyst 4.9
> > drivers specifically with Doom 3 in mind (before 4.8 are even
> > official!)
> >
> > http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html
>
> I've got them installed, was using 4.7s, on a 9800XT and have gained a
> noticible improvement! I'm plesantly surprised. Still getting sparklies
now
> and then tho.
>
>
Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 11:08:36 PM

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Quoth The Raven "Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> in
%%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net
> Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards
> as they are the ones that will see the increases most.
>

humph, I was hoping for an all round opengl patch for all cards

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Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 11:08:37 PM

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"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Quoth The Raven "Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> in
> %%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net
> > Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards
> > as they are the ones that will see the increases most.
> >
>
> humph, I was hoping for an all round opengl patch for all cards

Same here.

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Anonymous
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August 4, 2004 11:08:38 PM

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:45:49 -0400, "Gareee©" <gareeeNospam!@charter.net> wrote:

>"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
>news:2nbvuaFum882U2@uni-berlin.de...
>> Quoth The Raven "Byron Hinson" <byron@activewin.com> in
>> %%%Pc.91$1Z1.52@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net
>> > Been stated that they are basically made for the X800 range of cards
>> > as they are the ones that will see the increases most.
>> >
>>
>> humph, I was hoping for an all round opengl patch for all cards
>
>Same here.

Maybe the increase in performance is again what are ati are for quality "in special effets of all
kind in the game play" and it not visible from a sintetic benchmark because the image quality have
change but the frame rate...

anyway this as to be "deepening"
Anonymous
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August 5, 2004 3:30:02 AM

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"Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LdednUY566R7p4zcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
> Please post your benchmarks pre and post 4.9 beta.
>
> Otherwise, your analysis of 4.9's performance is subjective at best.
>
> What fps did you get before and after at identical resolution, refresh
rate,
> color depth, AA, AF, and Doom3 quality settings with Vsync Off please.

Dunno.

Just ran slicker when enemies were about.
Anonymous
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August 5, 2004 3:30:03 AM

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without doing a "timedemo demo1" (do this at least twice in a row because a
lot of game content is loaded during the first run from the hard drive
skewing results) at the console for both cat versions to get your average
FPS for that run. Then compare the two. Otherwise you could quite possibly
be imagining the speed improvement... ya know... placebo effect.

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djraid@comcast.net

"Jamie_Manic" <mmmm...pork rind> wrote in message
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>
> "Tony DiMarzio" <djtone81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LdednUY566R7p4zcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
> > Please post your benchmarks pre and post 4.9 beta.
> >
> > Otherwise, your analysis of 4.9's performance is subjective at best.
> >
> > What fps did you get before and after at identical resolution, refresh
> rate,
> > color depth, AA, AF, and Doom3 quality settings with Vsync Off please.
>
> Dunno.
>
> Just ran slicker when enemies were about.
>
>
!