VPU resets on a 9800 pro

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Help. I thought I would try an ATI card for my computer. I always had nvidia
cards and this is new for me. I have an ASUS mother board with a sis chipset
and a 2.56 p4 and 512 meg of ram. It ran stable with my geforce 4200 ti but
now it keeps crashing. I uninstalled all of the geforce drivers and set the
display to vga. I rebooted and everything was working in vga mode. I
installed the radeon 9800 pro and booted up. It came up fine and I installed
the drivers that came with it. After running for about 5 minutes, I started
to get lock ups. I tried new drivers from the web sight and still no luck. I
set all of the bios settings using ati's recommendations on their web page.
Still no luck.. I have a 400 watt power supply and it seems stable with no
fluctuations showing on the asus probe.

After running for about 5 minutes or less, I get an error that says the VPU
was reset to software mode because the driver could not control the
hardware.. or something like that..

Any ideas what I am doing wrong here.


pnolte

 

[Greg]

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You made sure to plug in the power connector to your video card, right? It
sounds like your overheating, check to make sure the cards fan is running.

"pnolte" <pnolte@hotremovethismail.com> wrote in message
news:0pydneTS7c_ClO_cRVn-sQ@vel.net...
> Help. I thought I would try an ATI card for my computer. I always had
> nvidia cards and this is new for me. I have an ASUS mother board with a
> sis chipset and a 2.56 p4 and 512 meg of ram. It ran stable with my
> geforce 4200 ti but now it keeps crashing. I uninstalled all of the
> geforce drivers and set the display to vga. I rebooted and everything was
> working in vga mode. I installed the radeon 9800 pro and booted up. It
> came up fine and I installed the drivers that came with it. After running
> for about 5 minutes, I started to get lock ups. I tried new drivers from
> the web sight and still no luck. I set all of the bios settings using
> ati's recommendations on their web page. Still no luck.. I have a 400 watt
> power supply and it seems stable with no fluctuations showing on the asus
> probe.
>
> After running for about 5 minutes or less, I get an error that says the
> VPU was reset to software mode because the driver could not control the
> hardware.. or something like that..
>
> Any ideas what I am doing wrong here.
>
>
> pnolte
>

 

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Hi Greg

When I first installed my 9800 pro, I was finding that it was generating so much heat that it was
crashing the cpu because the inside box temp was going up so much! My solution was to get an Arctic
cooler (vents heat straight out the back of the box) but that would invalidate your warranty on the
card. so you need to be sure of the problem before you start taking remedial action. Suggest
checking your case for proper cooling... does it crash if you take the side off the case for
example?

Also, make sure that the molex you connect to the 9800 is coming straight from the PSU, and doesnt
split off to anything else (that would cause noise on the line and evental crash, which kinda also
sounds like your problem). The mobo voltages wouldnt tell you much btw, because the problem is not
usually drooping voltage levels, but high frequency fluctuations (ie ac noise on the dc levels,
which the probes will not pick up). the issue with PSUs is as much how well it absorbs noise as it
is raw power output, and with NR, its usually a matter of quality of the psu (ie cost/manufacturoer)
as it is wattage.

HTH

S

Greg wrote:
> You made sure to plug in the power connector to your video card,
> right? It sounds like your overheating, check to make sure the cards
> fan is running.
> "pnolte" <pnolte@hotremovethismail.com> wrote in message
> news:0pydneTS7c_ClO_cRVn-sQ@vel.net...
>> Help. I thought I would try an ATI card for my computer. I always had
>> nvidia cards and this is new for me. I have an ASUS mother board
>> with a sis chipset and a 2.56 p4 and 512 meg of ram. It ran stable
>> with my geforce 4200 ti but now it keeps crashing. I uninstalled all
>> of the geforce drivers and set the display to vga. I rebooted and
>> everything was working in vga mode. I installed the radeon 9800 pro
>> and booted up. It came up fine and I installed the drivers that came
>> with it. After running for about 5 minutes, I started to get lock
>> ups. I tried new drivers from the web sight and still no luck. I set
>> all of the bios settings using ati's recommendations on their web
>> page. Still no luck.. I have a 400 watt power supply and it seems
>> stable with no fluctuations showing on the asus probe.
>>
>> After running for about 5 minutes or less, I get an error that says
>> the VPU was reset to software mode because the driver could not
>> control the hardware.. or something like that..
>>
>> Any ideas what I am doing wrong here.
>>
>>
>> pnolte

 

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"Sham B" <replytothislist@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:417271a0$0$29012$afc38c87@auth.uk.news.easynet.net...
> Hi Greg
>
> When I first installed my 9800 pro, I was finding that it was generating
> so much heat that it was crashing the cpu because the inside box temp was
> going up so much! My solution was to get an Arctic cooler (vents heat
> straight out the back of the box) but that would invalidate your warranty
> on the card. so you need to be sure of the problem before you start taking
> remedial action. Suggest checking your case for proper cooling... does it
> crash if you take the side off the case for example?
>
> Also, make sure that the molex you connect to the 9800 is coming straight
> from the PSU, and doesnt split off to anything else (that would cause
> noise on the line and evental crash, which kinda also sounds like your
> problem). The mobo voltages wouldnt tell you much btw, because the problem
> is not usually drooping voltage levels, but high frequency fluctuations
> (ie ac noise on the dc levels, which the probes will not pick up). the
> issue with PSUs is as much how well it absorbs noise as it is raw power
> output, and with NR, its usually a matter of quality of the psu (ie
> cost/manufacturoer) as it is wattage.
>
I tried all of the above suggestions with no luck. The card does not get hot
and the case is staying cool. I htink I am going to take the card back.

pnolte

 

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hmmm. if it doesnt get hot, then Im guessing that its bad contact between the heatsink and the GPU,
in which case, yeah, you need to get a new one. A 9800 pro stock heatsink should get very hot to the
touch.

S

pnolte wrote:
> "Sham B" <replytothislist@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:417271a0$0$29012$afc38c87@auth.uk.news.easynet.net...
>> Hi Greg
>>
>> When I first installed my 9800 pro, I was finding that it was
>> generating so much heat that it was crashing the cpu because the
>> inside box temp was going up so much! My solution was to get an
>> Arctic cooler (vents heat straight out the back of the box) but that
>> would invalidate your warranty on the card. so you need to be sure
>> of the problem before you start taking remedial action. Suggest
>> checking your case for proper cooling... does it crash if you take
>> the side off the case for example? Also, make sure that the molex you connect to the 9800 is
>> coming
>> straight from the PSU, and doesnt split off to anything else (that
>> would cause noise on the line and evental crash, which kinda also
>> sounds like your problem). The mobo voltages wouldnt tell you much
>> btw, because the problem is not usually drooping voltage levels, but
>> high frequency fluctuations (ie ac noise on the dc levels, which the
>> probes will not pick up). the issue with PSUs is as much how well it
>> absorbs noise as it is raw power output, and with NR, its usually a
>> matter of quality of the psu (ie cost/manufacturoer) as it is
>> wattage.
> I tried all of the above suggestions with no luck. The card does not
> get hot and the case is staying cool. I htink I am going to take the
> card back.
> pnolte

 

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"pnolte" <pnolte@hotremovethismail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:0pydneTS7c_ClO_cRVn-sQ@vel.net...
> Help. I thought I would try an ATI card for my computer. I always had
> nvidia cards and this is new for me. I have an ASUS mother board with a
> sis chipset and a 2.56 p4 and 512 meg of ram. It ran stable with my
> geforce 4200 ti but now it keeps crashing. I uninstalled all of the
> geforce drivers and set the display to vga. I rebooted and everything was
> working in vga mode. I installed the radeon 9800 pro and booted up. It
> came up fine and I installed the drivers that came with it. After running
> for about 5 minutes, I started to get lock ups. I tried new drivers from
> the web sight and still no luck. I set all of the bios settings using
> ati's recommendations on their web page. Still no luck.. I have a 400 watt
> power supply and it seems stable with no fluctuations showing on the asus
> probe.

Schon mal im Bios "Fast wright" disabled und zudem von auf AGP 8 auf AGP 4
reduziert? Ohne diese Bios-Einstellungen habe ich mit meiner 9800 Pro auch
wenig Freude.

 

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"R. Pause" <RApause@ra-pa.de> wrote in message
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>

> Schon mal im Bios "Fast wright" disabled und zudem von auf AGP 8 auf AGP 4
> reduziert? Ohne diese Bios-Einstellungen habe ich mit meiner 9800 Pro auch
> wenig Freude.

I tried just about every combination of bios setting you can imagine. I
disabled fast writes and tried both agp4 and 8. I think it is time to get a
new card. This was my first ATI card.. and I think my last.

pnolte

 

[JohnS]

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> Schon mal im Bios "Fast wright" disabled und zudem von auf AGP 8 auf AGP 4
> reduziert? Ohne diese Bios-Einstellungen habe ich mit meiner 9800 Pro auch
> wenig Freude.

That's what I said, and the jerk ignored me. I'm only
an experienced tech with a zillion years on the job.

johns

 

[Whatever]

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It could be your motherboard. At least the problem I had, which was
similar to yours, had to do with the motherboard, which was Gigabyte
with SiS 655 chipset. For a moment I thought I got a bad card, too.
After I changed to Asus with 865PE chipset and it's been stable since.



pnolte wrote:
> "Sham B" <replytothislist@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:417271a0$0$29012$afc38c87@auth.uk.news.easynet.net...
>
>>Hi Greg
>>
>>When I first installed my 9800 pro, I was finding that it was generating
>>so much heat that it was crashing the cpu because the inside box temp was
>>going up so much! My solution was to get an Arctic cooler (vents heat
>>straight out the back of the box) but that would invalidate your warranty
>>on the card. so you need to be sure of the problem before you start taking
>>remedial action. Suggest checking your case for proper cooling... does it
>>crash if you take the side off the case for example?
>>
>>Also, make sure that the molex you connect to the 9800 is coming straight
>>from the PSU, and doesnt split off to anything else (that would cause
>>noise on the line and evental crash, which kinda also sounds like your
>>problem). The mobo voltages wouldnt tell you much btw, because the problem
>>is not usually drooping voltage levels, but high frequency fluctuations
>>(ie ac noise on the dc levels, which the probes will not pick up). the
>>issue with PSUs is as much how well it absorbs noise as it is raw power
>>output, and with NR, its usually a matter of quality of the psu (ie
>>cost/manufacturoer) as it is wattage.
>>
>
> I tried all of the above suggestions with no luck. The card does not get hot
> and the case is staying cool. I htink I am going to take the card back.
>
> pnolte
>
>