Please help: ATI 9700Pro fan dying

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My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the post.

Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe replace
it by a resistor?

I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to pass
the post with internal fan disconnected

please help

 

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I'm not bloody surprised,

To have no fan working on the 9700pro is instant death.
Get a replacement as soon as or go for a Zalman ZM80D-HP @
http://www.zalman.co.kr/
What do you mean by replacing with a resistor????
The fan comes away by squeezing the plastic retainer clips and she should
pop away easy.

Warty

"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
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> My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the post.
>
> Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
> replace
> it by a resistor?
>
> I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
> separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to
> pass
> the post with internal fan disconnected
>
> please help
>
>
>

 

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since the card with disconnected fan doesn't pass the post, i figured that
the card itself somehow knows that the fan is not connected (the black and
red wires)

so i'm thinking is there a way to simulate a fan - e.g. replace fan with a
resistor - video card will think that the fan is connected

of course resistor will not cool the GPU - but that's another problem



"Warty" <yesbut@nobut.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not bloody surprised,
>
> To have no fan working on the 9700pro is instant death.
> Get a replacement as soon as or go for a Zalman ZM80D-HP @
> http://www.zalman.co.kr/
> What do you mean by replacing with a resistor????
> The fan comes away by squeezing the plastic retainer clips and she should
> pop away easy.
>
> Warty
>
> "eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
> news:WIxfd.6799$rs5.533265@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the
post.
> >
> > Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
> > replace
> > it by a resistor?
> >
> > I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
> > separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to
> > pass
> > the post with internal fan disconnected
> >
> > please help
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:09:34 +0100, "Warty" <yesbut@nobut.com> wrote:

>I'm not bloody surprised,

>To have no fan working on the 9700pro is instant death.
>Get a replacement as soon as or go for a Zalman ZM80D-HP @
>http://www.zalman.co.kr/
>What do you mean by replacing with a resistor????
>The fan comes away by squeezing the plastic retainer clips and she should
>pop away easy.

>Warty

>"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
>news:WIxfd.6799$rs5.533265@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the post.

It may sadly be too late M8, hope not 4 your sake -see below !

>> Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
>> replace
>> it by a resistor?

You are worried, concerned and talking shite !

>> I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
>> separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to
>> pass the post with internal fan disconnected

Many solution to the Tachy - fix the cooling first then - get back
and ask.

>> please help

Warty's right, do something about it.

- completely switch off from mains supply, wait 5 minutes
- then take out the card
- then unscrew the x4 little black screws
- remove the fan
- turn it upside down
- peel back the [ corner of ] the little white sticker
- then oil it with [ a very little - sewing machine type ] light oil
- then rotate L & R, and replace the sticker
- then replace!

Remove the [ shite & fluff ] quilt from the heatsink or it will
stop working again.

Do not use WD40 !

BoroLad

 

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oiled it, cleaned it, worked for a couple of months, on its last legs now

still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into thinking
that fan is attached while it is not?



<borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:09:34 +0100, "Warty" <yesbut@nobut.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not bloody surprised,
>
> >To have no fan working on the 9700pro is instant death.
> >Get a replacement as soon as or go for a Zalman ZM80D-HP @
> >http://www.zalman.co.kr/
> >What do you mean by replacing with a resistor????
> >The fan comes away by squeezing the plastic retainer clips and she should
> >pop away easy.
>
> >Warty
>
> >"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
> >news:WIxfd.6799$rs5.533265@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the
post.
>
> It may sadly be too late M8, hope not 4 your sake -see below !
>
> >> Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
> >> replace
> >> it by a resistor?
>
> You are worried, concerned and talking shite !
>
> >> I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
> >> separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to
> >> pass the post with internal fan disconnected
>
> Many solution to the Tachy - fix the cooling first then - get back
> and ask.
>
> >> please help
>
> Warty's right, do something about it.
>
> - completely switch off from mains supply, wait 5 minutes
> - then take out the card
> - then unscrew the x4 little black screws
> - remove the fan
> - turn it upside down
> - peel back the [ corner of ] the little white sticker
> - then oil it with [ a very little - sewing machine type ] light oil
> - then rotate L & R, and replace the sticker
> - then replace!
>
> Remove the [ shite & fluff ] quilt from the heatsink or it will
> stop working again.
>
> Do not use WD40 !
>
> BoroLad

 

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Estimate how much current the fan draws while running (look at some
comparable fans of similar size). Divide 12 V by it to get the equivalent
resistance, then plug a resistor of equal value into the fan ports.

That, or just get a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer.

--
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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
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> My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the post.
>
> Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
replace
> it by a resistor?
>
> I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
> separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to
pass
> the post with internal fan disconnected
>
> please help
>
>

 

[shawk]

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"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
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> oiled it, cleaned it, worked for a couple of months, on its last legs now
>
> still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into
> thinking
> that fan is attached while it is not?
>
>
>
> <borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message
> news:rcetn09bb6mnem0acu8uuc02nb262ft1p0@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:09:34 +0100, "Warty" <yesbut@nobut.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm not bloody surprised,
>>
>> >To have no fan working on the 9700pro is instant death.
>> >Get a replacement as soon as or go for a Zalman ZM80D-HP @
>> >http://www.zalman.co.kr/
>> >What do you mean by replacing with a resistor????
>> >The fan comes away by squeezing the plastic retainer clips and she
>> >should
>> >pop away easy.
>>
>> >Warty
>>
>> >"eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote in message
>> >news:WIxfd.6799$rs5.533265@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the
> post.
>>
>> It may sadly be too late M8, hope not 4 your sake -see below !
>>
>> >> Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe
>> >> replace
>> >> it by a resistor?
>>
>> You are worried, concerned and talking shite !
>>
>> >> I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
>> >> separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want
>> >> to
>> >> pass the post with internal fan disconnected
>>
>> Many solution to the Tachy - fix the cooling first then - get back
>> and ask.
>>
>> >> please help
>>
>> Warty's right, do something about it.
>>
>> - completely switch off from mains supply, wait 5 minutes
>> - then take out the card
>> - then unscrew the x4 little black screws
>> - remove the fan
>> - turn it upside down
>> - peel back the [ corner of ] the little white sticker
>> - then oil it with [ a very little - sewing machine type ] light oil
>> - then rotate L & R, and replace the sticker
>> - then replace!
>>
>> Remove the [ shite & fluff ] quilt from the heatsink or it will
>> stop working again.
>>
>> Do not use WD40 !
>>
>> BoroLad
>
>

Attach a new ah heck

 

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:46:05 -0400, "eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote:

>oiled it, cleaned it, worked for a couple of months, on its last legs now

>still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into thinking
>that fan is attached while it is not?

pop the pushpins out and replace with any x3 wire fan , or connect the
tach wire only from any other x3 wire to the appropriate header, eg
get any old scrap 486 fan etc snip the power from the header and
connect the plug containing only the ' tach ' wire to the header.

> >> it by a resistor?

It's crazy to run the card without any cooling, if you must do so, do
the above then remove the non-working fan and replace with a Zalman
passive type cooler.

BoroLad

 

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Shawk wrote:

>> still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into
>> thinking
>> that fan is attached while it is not?

Since people run these cards FANLESS on a regular basis that's NEVER the
problem. I'm one of them.
It shuts itself OFF because of immense HEAT. Coooling is your problem.


jk

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"kalev-" <you.wish@duh.net> wrote in message
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> Shawk wrote:
>
> >> still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into
> >> thinking
> >> that fan is attached while it is not?
>
> Since people run these cards FANLESS on a regular basis that's NEVER the
> problem. I'm one of them.
> It shuts itself OFF because of immense HEAT. Coooling is your problem.
>

i would like to believe you - it makes more sence

BUT the fact of the matter is that the moment i disconnect the fan the pc
doesn't even pass the post - and the radeon card is pretty cool at that
moment

if i plug the fan back - PC boots and loads windows OK and the radeon chip
is much hotter at that time


>
> jk
>
> --
> Every day above ground is a good day

 

[shawk]

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"kalev-" <you.wish@duh.net> wrote in message
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> Shawk wrote:
>
>>> still the questions stands - is ther a way to fake radeon card into
>>> thinking
>>> that fan is attached while it is not?
>
> Since people run these cards FANLESS on a regular basis that's NEVER the
> problem. I'm one of them.
> It shuts itself OFF because of immense HEAT. Coooling is your problem.
>
>
> jk
>
> --
> Every day above ground is a good day

jk, favour please - make sure you are putting the right name to the right
quote. I didn't say the things you put under my name - 'I' dont want to try
and run a card without cooling. Cheers, Shaun

 

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Shawk wrote:

> jk, favour please - make sure you are putting the right name to the right
> quote.

Truly sorry about that

jk
--
Every day above ground is a good day

 

[shawk]

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"kalev-" <you.wish@duh.net> wrote in message
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> Shawk wrote:
>
>> jk, favour please - make sure you are putting the right name to the right
>> quote.
>
> Truly sorry about that
>
> jk
> --
> Every day above ground is a good day

No probs - thanks

 

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:38:34 -0400, "eagle61" <m@m.com> wrote:

>My fan is dying, but when I disconnect it the card doesn't pass the post.
>
>Is there a way to disconnect the fan completely from the card? mabe replace
>it by a resistor?
>
>I'm thinking about either mounting a bigger heatsink, or installing a
>separate fan powered by the power supply - but the card doesn't want to pass
>the post with internal fan disconnected
>
>please help
>


From the ATI site: The Radeon 9700Pro must be connected to the
computer? power supply to meet its performance and high-speed memory
requirements.
In order to supply the ATI Graphics Accelerator card with the
necessary power, we have included the Power Extension Cable.
Use the Power Extension Cable to connect the Radeon 9700Pro to the
computer? hard Drive power connector.