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I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to work
on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work, alas
I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!

MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris TV
or DScaler.

Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on this
poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.

Regards

Beauchampy
 
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Beauchampy wrote:
>
> I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to work
> on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
> drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work, alas
> I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
>
> MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris TV
> or DScaler.
>
> Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on this
> poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
>
> Regards
>
> Beauchampy

too bad you didnt spend countless minutes giving us a detailed spec sheet
of your system components.

all my AIW (incl 9800 pro)cards always work just fine in all aspects.

Gordon
 
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> Beauchampy wrote:
> >
> > I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to
work
> > on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
> > drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work,
alas
> > I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
> >
> > MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris
TV
> > or DScaler.
> >
> > Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on
this
> > poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Beauchampy
>
> too bad you didnt spend countless minutes giving us a detailed spec sheet
> of your system components.

PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB, Terratec DMX
fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000 PCI
(secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.

Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.


>
> all my AIW (incl 9800 pro)cards always work just fine in all aspects.
>
> Gordon
 
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Beauchampy wrote:

>
> "Gordon Scott" <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:41846774.1C127DA7@shaw.ca...
>> Beauchampy wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to
> work
>> > on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
>> > drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work,
> alas
>> > I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
>> >
>> > MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as
>> > Chris
> TV
>> > or DScaler.
>> >
>> > Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on
> this
>> > poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Beauchampy
>>
>> too bad you didnt spend countless minutes giving us a detailed spec sheet
>> of your system components.
>
> PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB, Terratec
> DMX fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000
> PCI (secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.
>
> Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.

What happens when you try to tune an OTA channel?

>> all my AIW (incl 9800 pro)cards always work just fine in all aspects.
>>
>> Gordon

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In article <1099192372.15090.0@nnrp-t71-03.news.uk.clara.net>,
Beauchampy says...
> I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to work
> on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
> drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work, alas
> I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
>
> MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris TV
> or DScaler.
>
> Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on this
> poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
>
I take it you're in the UK and you're using DirectX 9 less than version
9.0c as well. THere's a bug in DirectX 9 which affects non NTSC tuners.
See Microsoft article KB825116.

Two choices..

1) Upgrade to Direct9.0c
2) Download the PAL TV fix for DirectX 9.0b from Microsoft.
The file you want is DirectX9b-KB825116-x86-ENU.exe

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In article <cm2su00rba@news3.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke says...

> > Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.
>
> What happens when you try to tune an OTA channel?
>
http://tinyurl.com/6p76u

File Name:

DirectX9b-KB825116-x86-ENU.exe

Download Size:

551 KB

Date Published:

11/4/2003

Version:


9.0b
Overview
11-04-03 update: The English hotfix package has been modified to allow
patching of all language installations supported by the affected
Operating Systems. If your language is not listed in the drop-down list
at right, please choose the English download.

DirectX 9.0b was released on 7/23/03 to address the MIDI security issue
identified in bulletin MS03-030. A small number of non-security fixes
were also included in the release. One of these fixes caused several TV
Tuner capture card/driver combinations using video formats other than
NTSC (NTSC-J, PAL, SECAM) to no longer initialize correctly on Windows
2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003. Symptoms include loss of
capture functionality and potential inability to set/retain device
capture settings. This hotfix, documented further in Knowledge Base
article 825116, has been issued to correct the flaw.

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Conor wrote:

> In article <cm2su00rba@news3.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke says...
>
>> > Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.
>>
>> What happens when you try to tune an OTA channel?
>>
> http://tinyurl.com/6p76u
>
> File Name:
>
> DirectX9b-KB825116-x86-ENU.exe
>
> Download Size:
>
> 551 KB
>
> Date Published:
>
> 11/4/2003
>
> Version:
>
>
> 9.0b
> Overview
> 11-04-03 update: The English hotfix package has been modified to allow
> patching of all language installations supported by the affected
> Operating Systems. If your language is not listed in the drop-down list
> at right, please choose the English download.
>
> DirectX 9.0b was released on 7/23/03 to address the MIDI security issue
> identified in bulletin MS03-030. A small number of non-security fixes
> were also included in the release. One of these fixes caused several TV
> Tuner capture card/driver combinations using video formats other than
> NTSC (NTSC-J, PAL, SECAM) to no longer initialize correctly on Windows
> 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003. Symptoms include loss of
> capture functionality and potential inability to set/retain device
> capture settings. This hotfix, documented further in Knowledge Base
> article 825116, has been issued to correct the flaw.

Well that's all nice but it doesn't tell what specific symptoms the OP was
experiencing. I should have picked up that he was a UK user--your advice
is very likely the solution to his problem, but I'm a bit puzzled as to why
you addressed that to me rather than him.

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In article <cm32681284e@news4.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke says...

> Well that's all nice but it doesn't tell what specific symptoms the OP was
> experiencing. I should have picked up that he was a UK user--your advice
> is very likely the solution to his problem, but I'm a bit puzzled as to why
> you addressed that to me rather than him.
>
My bad..

Was posting the page I found which I should've done before I sent the
other one.

And as for finding out he was in the UK...the message headers did that.

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Beauchampy wrote:
>
> "Gordon Scott" <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:41846774.1C127DA7@shaw.ca...
> > Beauchampy wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to
> work
> > > on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
> > > drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work,
> alas
> > > I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
> > >
> > > MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris
> TV
> > > or DScaler.
> > >
> > > Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on
> this
> > > poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Beauchampy
> >
> > too bad you didnt spend countless minutes giving us a detailed spec sheet
> > of your system components.
>
> PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB, Terratec DMX
> fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000 PCI
> (secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.
>
> Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.
>
> >
> > all my AIW (incl 9800 pro)cards always work just fine in all aspects.
> >
> > Gordon

AIW 9800 SE?? I have never seen or heard of an AIW "SE" card.
is your card PAL or NTSC? you need PAL in europe.
 

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>>
>>PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB, Terratec DMX
>>fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000 PCI
>>(secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.
>>

I have found that ATI cards don't work happily in this configuration.
You might find everything works find if you pull the ATI PCI card. If
the tuner works then, I would suggest using a Matrox card for the
secondary display. This has worked for me.
 

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me wrote:

>
>>>
>>> PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB,
>>> Terratec DMX
>>> fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000
>>> PCI
>>> (secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.
>>>
>
> I have found that ATI cards don't work happily in this configuration.
> You might find everything works find if you pull the ATI PCI card. If
> the tuner works then, I would suggest using a Matrox card for the
> secondary display. This has worked for me.
Oh yes, I forgot, and please forgive me if I am repeating things already
mentioned.

Make sure your BIOS is set to have AGP as the primary display.
 
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Here is an example:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/aiw-9800se.asp

BTW, I am using the card in the link above and I had the same problem as
Beauchampy described before. I even lost the "TV tuning" option from the
MMC (Yes, you are right, MMC was useless at that time). After trying out
everything I can/cannot imagine/think of, I scratch installed WinXP and
install Cat 4.9 and MMC 9.02 (and Asian Lang. Pack tho I think that doesn't
matter at all), I got the TV tuner up and running and I am now happy with
that now.

"Gordon Scott" <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:41858A85.DE9BA912@shaw.ca...
> Beauchampy wrote:
> >
> > "Gordon Scott" <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41846774.1C127DA7@shaw.ca...
> > > Beauchampy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner
to
> > work
> > > > on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours
installing
> > > > drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to
work,
> > alas
> > > > I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
> > > >
> > > > MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as
Chris
> > TV
> > > > or DScaler.
> > > >
> > > > Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work
on
> > this
> > > > poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Beauchampy
> > >
> > > too bad you didnt spend countless minutes giving us a detailed spec
sheet
> > > of your system components.
> >
> > PIV 3.0ghz, 1024mb DDR400 Kingston Ram, Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB, Terratec
DMX
> > fire. ATI Radeon 9800 AIW SE (primary graphics), Sapphire Radeon 7000
PCI
> > (secondary graphics). 2 x 120gb WD HDD, Pioneer 106, LG 52x CDRW.
> >
> > Running XP Pro (service pack 1) with all updates except service pack 2.
> >
> > >
> > > all my AIW (incl 9800 pro)cards always work just fine in all aspects.
> > >
> > > Gordon
>
> AIW 9800 SE?? I have never seen or heard of an AIW "SE" card.
> is your card PAL or NTSC? you need PAL in europe.
 
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In article <41858A85.DE9BA912@shaw.ca>, Gordon Scott says...

> AIW 9800 SE?? I have never seen or heard of an AIW "SE" card.

Thats what I've got sat in mine. www.aria.co.uk sell them.


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"Conor" <conor.turton@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1099192372.15090.0@nnrp-t71-03.news.uk.clara.net>,
> Beauchampy says...
> > I would like to hear from ANYONE who has managed to get the TV tuner to
work
> > on this card under Windows XP. I have spent countless hours installing
> > drivers and ripping my hair out. I can get the composite input to work,
alas
> > I cannot get the card to tune to any air frequencies!
> >
> > MMC is totally useless. I've had better luck with programs such as Chris
TV
> > or DScaler.
> >
> > Well, if anyone knows the magic combination for getting TV to work on
this
> > poor excuse for a TV card I would love to heard from them.
> >
> I take it you're in the UK and you're using DirectX 9 less than version
> 9.0c as well. THere's a bug in DirectX 9 which affects non NTSC tuners.
> See Microsoft article KB825116.
>
> Two choices..
>
> 1) Upgrade to Direct9.0c
> 2) Download the PAL TV fix for DirectX 9.0b from Microsoft.
> The file you want is DirectX9b-KB825116-x86-ENU.exe

Amazing, works a treat. Thanks.

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In article <1099370322.31250.0@despina.uk.clara.net>, Beauchampy
says...

> >
> > 1) Upgrade to Direct9.0c
> > 2) Download the PAL TV fix for DirectX 9.0b from Microsoft.
> > The file you want is DirectX9b-KB825116-x86-ENU.exe
>
> Amazing, works a treat. Thanks.
>
No problem. Had the same issue myself and it drove me mad for a few
days. As most of the group are American continent based contributors,
its not an issue they'll come across.

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