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October 12, 2011 8:16:27 AM

I'm sure it's not just a level wear you shoot police officers for an hour, it probably has something to do with the story line, so big deal. In MW2 you shot American soldier's in the final part of the game. For Christs sake you throw a knife at a three star general. I know I know, he's dirty, but still, no one complained about that. If people don't like, then don't play it. I, on the other hand, don't really care so don't punish me.
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October 12, 2011 8:17:11 AM

George Carlin said killing policemen (and raping teenagers) are necessary activities. Maybe they should say they are George Carlin fans?
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October 12, 2011 8:17:29 AM

Wow, I'm tired, I meant where, not wear. I need sleep bad...
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October 12, 2011 9:09:53 AM

How can anyone actually make that and than defend it?
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October 12, 2011 9:26:22 AM

I hate all this political correctness in the past few years.

IT'S A GAME!!!

I'm tired of it all. You are killing people, end of story. Favorite genre since 10 years old (25 now) is FPS and always will be. I am such a peaceful person. Games do not make me want to go out and kill people.

HUGE example of political correctness is in Socom 4.

No more Demolition, Escort, and Breach game modes. You have regular Suppression, Bomb Squad (bombs are already placed and a bomb tech defuses them) and Uplink (you steal the data and upload to your computer).

In my honest opinion, if people make such a big deal about all this crap, just ban all games where killing is involved. All this crap about WHAT is getting ridiculous, IT'S ONLY A GAME!!!
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October 12, 2011 10:09:01 AM

Why don't they just show a tank rolling over a baby and it's brains popping out under the tracks... that would get some publicity.

They won't of course because that crosses the line, in the same way that I am willing to bet in this section that you shoot male police officers, not a sweet looking female one. Why, becauase that would cross the line.

Seriously, its good if developers don't cross the line because there are a lot of impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there that this stuff may affect. Don't assume because you think it's not affecting you it isn't effecting others.

Publishers need to be responsible, and given the EA statement this sounds within the realms of plausible reasonable cause rather than a poor excuse for something dispicable.
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October 12, 2011 10:51:56 AM

Maximus_Delta...its good if developers don't cross the line because there are a lot of impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there that this stuff may affect.

Could not agree more.
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October 12, 2011 11:09:57 AM

It is a game!!! Seriously, if people do what they do in games in RL the world would be dead long ago, but they don't, because it is not the right thing to do. Politics must stop meddling in with games. Most of us play games to escape it all and to just have fun and relax.
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October 12, 2011 11:14:39 AM

Only reason for this is because parents just give their 13 year olds money to go out and buy the game, stroll past the child's room and see them doing some "horrific atrocity" then start bitching about the game.

I love how parents blame the game when its the parent's complete disregard for PARENTING when they let their children buy games.

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October 12, 2011 11:18:49 AM

aww come on maximus, millions of lives are at stake! :D 
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October 12, 2011 11:26:40 AM

Sacrifice a few to save many! :D 
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October 12, 2011 11:39:18 AM

This is certainly hypocritical of them. They obviously made a big issue of no civilians being harm-able as a way to point the finger at Activation's MW2 and try to appear to be the moral superior of the two.

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"I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. For God's sake, there is a nuke in Paris! Millions of lives are at stake!!"


I'm sorry but I don't get it. If this was terrorists we are talking about that would make sense. But what police are we shooting and from where? Why would any normal police force stand in the way of the US military to the point of initiating violence? If this actually takes place in Paris I am even more confused, no way would the French police or any of them would choose fight the US military and die from a nuclear weapon rather than working with them. Even if we are talking about a police force somewhere in the Mideast and the soldiers are going for intel I highly doubt that the local police force would engage US soldiers without orders to do so. For all they know it would be a top secret operation agreed upon by their government. So what the hell? Does the player and US NPC's just murder the police out of cold blood?
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October 12, 2011 11:43:12 AM

rabidfaceI hate all this political correctness in the past few years.IT'S A GAME!!!I'm tired of it all. You are killing people, end of story. Favorite genre since 10 years old (25 now) is FPS and always will be. I am such a peaceful person. Games do not make me want to go out and kill people. HUGE example of political correctness is
Maximus_DeltaWhy don't they just show a tank rolling over a baby and it's brains popping out under the tracks... that would get some publicity.They won't of course because that crosses the line, in the same way that I am willing to bet in this section that you shoot male police officers, not a sweet looking female one. Why, becauase that would cross the line.Seriously, its good if developers don't cross the line because there are a lot of impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there that this stuff may affect. Don't assume because you think it's not affecting you it isn't effecting others.Publishers need to be responsible, and given the EA statement this sounds within the realms of plausible reasonable cause rather than a poor excuse for something dispicable.

in Socom 4.No more Demolition, Escort, and Breach game modes. You have regular Suppression, Bomb Squad (bombs are already placed and a bomb tech defuses them) and Uplink (you steal the data and upload to your computer).In my honest opinion, if people make such a big deal about all this crap, just ban all games where killing is involved. All this crap about WHAT is getting ridiculous, IT'S ONLY A GAME!!!


lol, personally i want to make a game called punt the baby. and i want it to be graphic, i want it to be realistic, i want the baby to be giggling and laughing, looking realistic, like a 500k+ polly model of the baby, of tessellation. and i want everything in the baby physics drive.

and you score, based on how much of the land you covered in the babys blood.

and i mean it seriously, i want this game made, not because its good, just because it would be so horrific, i would NEVER hear about "o no you kill a cop" "o no you play as a terrorist" "o no you killed civilians" EVER again, because they could always point at my game, and say, at least its not that.
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October 12, 2011 11:46:23 AM

They should make a game called Politics. Where you do nothing but bitch about everything, and don't concern yourself with really important political matters.
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October 12, 2011 12:26:41 PM

Let me see. I remember some board games as a kid that no one complained about, of course nowadays due to everyone seemingly wanting to find a reason to bitch they would be out on the streets about it. Take CLUE. If I remember correctly not one single non white person and/or piece in it. What a racist game. Monopoly. Gee the name itself warrants being taken off shelves due to the current climate. All this comes down to one thing, as rabidface said, ITS A GAME people. I personally like mystre316's idea myself.
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October 12, 2011 12:36:13 PM

Pffff we've been shooting at those black bastards since the 70's. Why you think bloody sunday happened? Hardly anything new.
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October 12, 2011 12:37:55 PM

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"I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. For God's sake, there is a nuke in Paris! Millions of lives are at stake!!"

That's a crummy excuse. So because there is a nuke in Paris, you should start killing the police? Doesn't make sense to me...
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October 12, 2011 12:41:12 PM

Does it being a fictional game make sense?
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October 12, 2011 12:44:11 PM

Look, they didn't say what the story line is that creates this scenario. It could be that the cops are in on it. It could be that only the team going in to get the nuke knows about it and the police are trying to stop them... Who knows, we sure as hell don't. It's a game. Get over it. Did we see a huge massive gargantuan killing spree of cops when GTA4 or anything like that came out? No. It's a game. Not real. Dumb or not, people know the difference.
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October 12, 2011 12:45:53 PM

We can lay down mg fire on the PoPo? Damn that looks sweet, I might consider trying the SP just because of that.
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October 12, 2011 12:53:48 PM

Quote:
"I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. For God's sake, there is a nuke in Paris! Millions of lives are at stake!!"


I didn't know Jack Bauer worked at EA, lol.
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October 12, 2011 12:54:40 PM

There should be bonus points for shooting the French :) 
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October 12, 2011 12:56:05 PM

Does it matter if the people being shot are Police?

This is a game where you actively try to shoot another human being to death, preferably by unloading a whole magazine in the face, before teabagging the corpse.

I'm sure being a Policeman makes not a jot of difference.
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October 12, 2011 1:01:32 PM

have you people seen the American police lately? Corrupt, abusive twats. I love a good cop (if I ever find one) and shooting a bad cop in a game would be refreshing.
/signed, x- police officer
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October 12, 2011 1:03:15 PM

Maximus_DeltaWhy don't they just show a tank rolling over a baby and it's brains popping out under the tracks... that would get some publicity.They won't of course because that crosses the line, in the same way that I am willing to bet in this section that you shoot male police officers, not a sweet looking female one. Why, becauase that would cross the line.Seriously, its good if developers don't cross the line because there are a lot of impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there that this stuff may affect. Don't assume because you think it's not affecting you it isn't effecting others.Publishers need to be responsible, and given the EA statement this sounds within the realms of plausible reasonable cause rather than a poor excuse for something dispicable.
Then lets hold accountable movies, books and music alike. Matt Damon incites goverment disbelief. Harry Potter incite to occultism, Britney Spears incite to Extra-marital actions. You see in lots of movies Middle Eastern people get killed as comedy relief since decades ago but nobody complains about it.
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October 12, 2011 1:09:22 PM

theconsolegamerThen lets hold accountable movies, books and music alike. Matt Damon incites goverment disbelief. Harry Potter incite to occultism, Britney Spears incite to Extra-marital actions. You see in lots of movies Middle Eastern people get killed as comedy relief since decades ago but nobody complains about it.

Whilst we are at it let's ban the film "King Of Kings" because they killed that nice Jewish man at the end.
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October 12, 2011 1:18:58 PM

It's already rated M, so why not hit the can and move on?

If they say HOW you're going to kill a cop, OFF COURSE it sounds like a devil's work! Gosh. Still, it's a fiction work! Hope those same douches go complain to the "Movies Association" for killing civilians and cops like mad on every film.

I friggin' hate double standards.

Cheers!
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October 12, 2011 1:42:58 PM

Speaking of M ratings... it reminds me of how people bitch about swearing in the online portion of Bad Company 2 and I'm sure in BF3 as well, and getting kicked/banned for swearing. It's an M-rated game. I find it hilarious, especially when the voice overs automatically include swearing.
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October 12, 2011 1:57:02 PM

Maxor127Speaking of M ratings... it reminds me of how people bitch about swearing in the online portion of Bad Company 2 and I'm sure in BF3 as well, and getting kicked/banned for swearing. It's an M-rated game. I find it hilarious, especially when the voice overs automatically include swearing.


In the BF3 beta, there is a line that goes like this (on the American side): ''...kill all those cock suckers...''

Wait till a sodomite figure it out.
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October 12, 2011 2:42:45 PM

Politicians... Have you got better things to do? Like actually helping the society? or preventing another housing crysis or what?
If you are saying killing an imaginary police is wrong, then you are wrong.
Have you think of killing or hurting someone in a dream? Same thing, IMAGINATION.
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October 12, 2011 2:51:13 PM

Holy crap. Cops have been getting killed in games for years. GTA series anyone? Heck, I know plenty of cops who PLAY those games...

GET OVER IT PEOPLE.
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October 12, 2011 2:54:10 PM

It's a game. No cops are being shot. Just like the movies.
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October 12, 2011 3:07:11 PM

Sad, sad standard for a company to set in the name of entertainment.

You'd think a company as large and successful as EA, which influences the minds of so many underage gamers whom they know damn well, acquire the mature titles anyways, would choose a higher path.

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October 12, 2011 3:19:29 PM

They have those ratings for a REASON. Its not EA's fault that the parent's of these underage children don't monitor what they buy... If I had to give my child money, I'd ask what for, and go buy it for them. Not blindly give them the money so they can do with it as they please.

Blame parenting and not EA.
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October 12, 2011 3:20:11 PM

It has no effect on me when I slap a hooker or kill a cop, but I am a well adjusted married middle class male. But, what does it do to people already drawn towards violence? Sure they are already probably killing cats or planning their classmates demise, but will this make it easier for them to pull the trigger. Those are the exact kids that have no supervision and this is why some people perceive these games as a threat. I think people drawn towards violence will always find ways to get their kicks. The problem is stopping them before they cause harm while we enjoy a murderous fantasy on the computer. Oh, and remember how some people act like jerks when on the computers but are just little turds in real life, imangine them after a couple games of killing cops and some beer with their dad's gun and a grudge. This debate will never end and it will affect our games, but how far is too far? Ask the guys who make movies.
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October 12, 2011 3:31:49 PM

RANT in 3....2.....1

This is effing ridiculous. LEAVE MY GAME ALONE. Its a game. Its meant to be bad ass. Its meant to allow you to do all those things that you are not supposed to do in real life because they are wrong. We all know there are good cops and bad cops. An example of a bad cops would be the four cops who kill the guy on the way to his wedding in new york a few years ago, no criminal record, no gun, no history, but because he looked like a gangsta they had seen before they fired first and asked questions later, and not one of them faced criminal charges. An example of a good cop, would be the story of the off duty officer who save a woman who was about to be kidnapped in virginia last year. In the game if the cop is stopping me from doing something I need to do in the game, yeh I probably going to double tap him. Its a F****** GAME. When GTA came out it was documented that Grand theft auto world wide actually dropped, because for some stealing cars was just fun(no I m not going to link proof here. Google it). So again LEAVE MY EFFING GAME ALONE. You don't approve. Don't watch. Im an Network Administrator. I put up with some hilarious stuff. After a week of it you need to unwind. Its a game for people who want to kill people. For everyone else. There's hello kitty adventure island.

Phew........so much fun
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October 12, 2011 3:39:50 PM

Maximus_DeltaWhy don't they just show a tank rolling over a baby and it's brains popping out under the tracks... that would get some publicity.They won't of course because that crosses the line, in the same way that I am willing to bet in this section that you shoot male police officers, not a sweet looking female one. Why, becauase that would cross the line.Seriously, its good if developers don't cross the line because there are a lot of impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there that this stuff may affect. Don't assume because you think it's not affecting you it isn't effecting others.Publishers need to be responsible, and given the EA statement this sounds within the realms of plausible reasonable cause rather than a poor excuse for something dispicable.


Dont need to when there is live footage of it in Syria.
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October 12, 2011 3:49:16 PM

istankDont need to when there is live footage of it in Syria.


The ESRB gave the game a M for Mature for a reason. I havent found a M rated game yet and even some t games have situations in them that may affect specific people badly this includes but is not limited to HF2 EPisode 2
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October 12, 2011 3:57:21 PM

Folks do realize this is a game, right? Just pixels to form a likeness. No harm, no foul. Next.

Once again, this is just a game.....
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October 12, 2011 4:16:10 PM

joeyjoejoeshabaadooSad, sad standard for a company to set in the name of entertainment. You'd think a company as large and successful as EA, which influences the minds of so many underage gamers whom they know damn well, acquire the mature titles anyways, would choose a higher path.

Police kills inocent people every day, real people. We need to level the battleground somehow.

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October 12, 2011 4:17:21 PM

police, army, terrorist:

Don't forget it's just the government controlling people for their own shakes and will make then die for their principle...

So basically a good policeman can be used by evil, killing innocent: let the innocent protect themselves.

+ 1 it's just a game
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October 12, 2011 4:18:21 PM

nikorrCould not agree more.

Maybe those "impressionable, below average intelligence gamers out there" should be monitored, by someone whose job it is to make sure they don't do things they shouldn't, hmm what could we call them, let me think... O I GOT IT, PARENTS!!! Don't punish everyone cause a few morons don't know the difference between a game and real life, make it simple, punish the morons themselves leave the rest of us out of it.
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October 12, 2011 4:51:01 PM

I love EA's response, it cracks me up!
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October 12, 2011 4:51:38 PM

I want to be able to urinate on people like you could in Postal
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October 12, 2011 5:12:14 PM

NuclearShadowThis is certainly hypocritical of them. They obviously made a big issue of no civilians being harm-able as a way to point the finger at Activation's MW2 and try to appear to be the moral superior of the two.I'm sorry but I don't get it. If this was terrorists we are talking about that would make sense. But what police are we shooting and from where? Why would any normal police force stand in the way of the US military to the point of initiating violence? If this actually takes place in Paris I am even more confused, no way would the French police or any of them would choose fight the US military and die from a nuclear weapon rather than working with them. Even if we are talking about a police force somewhere in the Mideast and the soldiers are going for intel I highly doubt that the local police force would engage US soldiers without orders to do so. For all they know it would be a top secret operation agreed upon by their government. So what the hell? Does the player and US NPC's just murder the police out of cold blood?


Maybe they are a group of special forces. Maybe they are in civilian clothes trying to stop the bomb but things suddenly escalate to a shoot out between the special forces at the terrorists and the police step in thinking it's just a normal shoot out, no bomb, no military, just two groups shooting. You don't have to time to stop and explain who you are and get things understood by both parties, you have to stop the bomb. The mission makes sense. Not everything in life is butterflies and roses, sometimes you have to do some dark things for the ultimate good of everyone.

Plus, it's only a game, you are shooting a bunch of 0s and 1s, not a really person. If you have such a problem doing it then go through the mission without shooting a single office...actually, that sounds like a fun challenge...
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October 12, 2011 5:57:12 PM

I thought police are people to. So what's wrong with shooting them in a shooter game?
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October 12, 2011 6:12:46 PM

jezus53Maybe they are a group of special forces. Maybe they are in civilian clothes trying to stop the bomb but things suddenly escalate to a shoot out between the special forces at the terrorists and the police step in thinking it's just a normal shoot out, no bomb, no military, just two groups shooting. You don't have to time to stop and explain who you are and get things understood by both parties, you have to stop the bomb. The mission makes sense. Not everything in life is butterflies and roses, sometimes you have to do some dark things for the ultimate good of everyone.Plus, it's only a game, you are shooting a bunch of 0s and 1s, not a really person. If you have such a problem doing it then go through the mission without shooting a single office...actually, that sounds like a fun challenge...


For those of you who have a problem with violence and the site of blood when a person is shot. I recommend the easy watching easy listening video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031Dshcnso4&feature=rela...
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October 12, 2011 6:15:59 PM

"If you put the player in front of a choice where they can do good things or bad things, they will do bad things, go dark side - because people think it's cool to be naughty, they won't be caught."


I must say that the prior statement is ignorant amd immature. We are all put in front of a choice to do good or bad everyday we are alive. Do we all go dark side? We are dynamic beings and we make new decisions every day; our society is still functioning so I would say that we primarily make good decisions.

I don't see the difference in shooting a hostile or a police officer. Regardless of their title you are still killing a human form of consciousness that is unique and blessed. Don't put police officers on a pedestal, many of the ones I have encountered in my life haven't been exactly stand up citizens anyway. If you want to simulate killing, then don't feel bad about it, just play the game, turn the machine off and be mature enough to bring your mind back to reality.
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