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Anonymous
November 7, 2004 8:06:09 PM

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I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
Service Plan!

Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3 for
Far Cry and hope it is more fun?

BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not in
the same "dying for it" way.

Specs:

Win98SE on
P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
512 MB PC800 RDRAM
Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
SB Audigy

TIA

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November 8, 2004 2:19:30 AM

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Doom3 and Far Cry play well at medium image quality settings on my system:
XP2800 and 9800pro/128mb.

The 9800pro card handles the DirectX9 graphics very well with both games and
I get a decent frame rate on both games. However your P4 1.8 will hold your
graphics card back a bit. Both games would still be playable although you
may have to reduce the image quality a tad. I'd consider upgrading your CPU
if you can.

The minimum CPU for Doom3 is 1.5Ghz and it's 1Ghz for Far Cry. Have you
noticed that Doom3 only states that it's compatible with Windows 2000/XP, so
it might not even run on your system.

Both games have next generation graphics but only Far Cry is next generation
in terms of gameplay. Of the two Far Cry is easily the superior and most fun
game to play!

....Dek

PS - but neither game will touch HL2 when it comes out next week ...just to
give you something else to think about ;-)




>I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
> Service Plan!
>
> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
> expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
> have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
> returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
> opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3 for
> Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
>
> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not
> in
> the same "dying for it" way.
>
> Specs:
>
> Win98SE on
> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> SB Audigy
>
> TIA
>
>
November 8, 2004 2:45:15 AM

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> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry?

Honest. Doom3 is a total bore. It is the same thing over and over and
over. Far Cry on the other hand is really fun, and even a lot of fun to
repeat with different and improving tactics at higher levels of difficulty.
I'm ready for Far Cry 2. And I'm also ready for Doom3 to live up to
the level of Doom from years ago. It did not. Far Cry has set a standard
in gaming that nothing else is meeting.

johns
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November 8, 2004 2:47:59 AM

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BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious wrote:
> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but
not in
> the same "dying for it" way.
>
> Specs:
>
> Win98SE on
> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> SB Audigy

Well I'd always choose Far Cry over Doom3,but both games would run at
medium settings on your system.
Far Cry is better than Doom3 in segments of story,missions,etc.
I was really looking forward to Doom3 but when I got the game(pirated
copy) I was so disapointed,I was really happy that I didn't buy the
original.
On the other hand Far Cry didn't have all the media hype but I turned
out as an excellent game.
I played both of them at Medium-High settings,1152x864 res.,4xTAA and 8xAF.
Both games ran really smooth but Far Cry did run slightly better.
My system:
P4 2.8(Northwood 800) on Gigabyte GA-8I875Ultra
2x512 DDR400 Viking
ATI Radeon 9700PRO 128MB
Built in sound card(Realtek ALC658)
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 2:48:00 AM

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Thanks Glitch. I hope some other people chime in too.

The other thing is Doom3 costs $70 while Far Cry is $50.
November 8, 2004 2:48:01 AM

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"BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Glitch. I hope some other people chime in too.
>
> The other thing is Doom3 costs $70 while Far Cry is $50.
>
>
Why so much??? Is that US Dollars?

Far Cry performs better on ATI cards when you crank up the settings (but
your CPU will be a factor)
Doom3 better with Nvidia cards like the 6800...
I have both and both games are great! Doom 3 is not a let down like others
might say.
They are both completely different and unique.
I would check to see if anyone has played it on W98. Plus I would return it
and check EBAY.
I bought my copy for $32 a month ago.

Shop around for a better CPU & you might upgrade to XP to run D3.
November 8, 2004 3:39:09 AM

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"BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message
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>I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
> Service Plan!
>
> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
> expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
> have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
> returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
> opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3 for
> Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
>
> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not
> in
> the same "dying for it" way.
>
> Specs:
>
> Win98SE on
> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> SB Audigy
>
> TIA
>
>
Doom 3 is great.. for about the first 30 mins then you'll quickly tire of
it. Far Cry is the best in the long term though both games are capable of
taxing the 9800 Pro.

--
TP
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 3:39:10 AM

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Okay I'm gonna keep Doom 3 sealed, and exchange it for Half Life 2 next
Tuesday

I'm in Canada if anyone wonders why the price seems so high. I could
probably get it $10 cheaper elsewhere but for some reason I love going to
Future Shop.

AW F IT IM INSTALLING IT....

Taipan <SPAMTRAP@emptyhole.com> wrote in message
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> "BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message
> news:Y4xjd.5567$hp3.568110@read2.cgocable.net...
> >I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
> > Service Plan!
> >
> > Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been
thinking.
> > Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
> > expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
> > have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
> > returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
> > opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3
for
> > Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
> >
> > BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not
> > in
> > the same "dying for it" way.
> >
> > Specs:
> >
> > Win98SE on
> > P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> > 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> > Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> > SB Audigy
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> Doom 3 is great.. for about the first 30 mins then you'll quickly tire of
> it. Far Cry is the best in the long term though both games are capable of
> taxing the 9800 Pro.
>
> --
> TP
>
>
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 7:47:10 AM

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You haven't purchased the right to review games for people. Pay for the
game or STFU.
"Glitch" <Glitch_120@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious wrote:
> > BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but
> not in
>> the same "dying for it" way.
>>
>> Specs:
>>
>> Win98SE on
>> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
>> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
>> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
>> SB Audigy
>
> Well I'd always choose Far Cry over Doom3,but both games would run at
> medium settings on your system.
> Far Cry is better than Doom3 in segments of story,missions,etc.
> I was really looking forward to Doom3 but when I got the game(pirated
> copy) I was so disapointed,I was really happy that I didn't buy the
> original.
> On the other hand Far Cry didn't have all the media hype but I turned out
> as an excellent game.
> I played both of them at Medium-High settings,1152x864 res.,4xTAA and
> 8xAF.
> Both games ran really smooth but Far Cry did run slightly better.
> My system:
> P4 2.8(Northwood 800) on Gigabyte GA-8I875Ultra
> 2x512 DDR400 Viking
> ATI Radeon 9700PRO 128MB
> Built in sound card(Realtek ALC658)
>
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 8:40:00 AM

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"Taipan" <SPAMTRAP@emptyhole.com> wrote in message
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> Doom 3 is great.. for about the first 30 mins then you'll quickly tire of
> it. Far Cry is the best in the long term though both games are capable of
> taxing the 9800 Pro.
>
> --
> TP
>

That's what I thought at first but you have to persevere with D3. You just
don't notice how subtly the levels changes and how atmospheric the game is
until you're jumping out of your seat. (You know something is behind the
next door and it still makes me jump off my seat :-) )

I downloaded the demo of Far Cry and just can't see anything special about
it. I've got a 9800pro and so 'yes' I can turn up the eye candy. But for ME,
the gameplay is just 'so what..'.
November 8, 2004 10:51:56 AM

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I must say that Far Cry is better it's just simply more than just shoot and
kill it has a better story to it.

Doom 3 was fun for a little while then got bord.

i was able to put down Doom3 but i had to finish Far Cry


"johns" <johns123xxx@moscow.comxxx> wrote in message
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>
> > Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been
thinking.
> > Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry?
>
> Honest. Doom3 is a total bore. It is the same thing over and over and
> over. Far Cry on the other hand is really fun, and even a lot of fun to
> repeat with different and improving tactics at higher levels of
difficulty.
> I'm ready for Far Cry 2. And I'm also ready for Doom3 to live up to
> the level of Doom from years ago. It did not. Far Cry has set a standard
> in gaming that nothing else is meeting.
>
> johns
>
>
November 8, 2004 1:12:35 PM

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"?uzzled" <not@got.one> wrote in message
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>
> "Taipan" <SPAMTRAP@emptyhole.com> wrote in message
> news:cmmf7d$nts$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
>> Doom 3 is great.. for about the first 30 mins then you'll quickly tire of
>> it. Far Cry is the best in the long term though both games are capable
>> of
>> taxing the 9800 Pro.
>>
>> --
>> TP
>>
>
> That's what I thought at first but you have to persevere with D3. You just
> don't notice how subtly the levels changes and how atmospheric the game is
> until you're jumping out of your seat. (You know something is behind the
> next door and it still makes me jump off my seat :-) )
>
> I downloaded the demo of Far Cry and just can't see anything special about
> it. I've got a 9800pro and so 'yes' I can turn up the eye candy. But for
> ME,
> the gameplay is just 'so what..'.
>
>
I guess everyone likes something different - I did play Doom 3 for while
after the 30 mins to see if it got any better but it all just felt too
similar - perhaps I'll reinstall it and try again at some point - Far Cry on
the other hand, whilst having some similar levels, featured a plot and
gameplay that actually kept me wanting to play - the first FPS to do so
since HL (though still not nearly as good as HL's plot/level design IMO).

Looking forward to HL2 as are of the gaming universe I imagine - fingers
crossed it's not a disappointment.

--
TP
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 2:37:41 PM

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why choose? get both! >:D 
As with any of the new-engine games, Doom3 and FarCry are very scaleable -
and D3 has a number of performance tweaks for it which, given your system,
will make it very playable with some of the bells & whistles turned on. Your
pc is an older system, save for the 9800pro, but I'm sure you could get some
damn good playing out of either title with no hassles.
As for which game to buy... read my first line, if you can afford it. But if
I had to choose... well.. I cant coz theyre both excellent. Theyre both
shooting games.. I dont understand people that use the 'theres no storyline'
point because.. well you're shooting things and trying to stay alive. Why do
you need a storyline!? :D  Both games look excellent, D3 a little more so -
despite it having little to no outdoor environments.

"BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message
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> I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
> Service Plan!
>
> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
> expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
> have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
> returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
> opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3 for
> Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
>
> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not
in
> the same "dying for it" way.
>
> Specs:
>
> Win98SE on
> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> SB Audigy
>
> TIA
>
>
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 3:22:45 PM

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I just returned Doom3 and got Far Cry. Damn, it's sweet. The water is so...
watery.
Anonymous
November 8, 2004 8:58:13 PM

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On 11/8/2004 9:22 AM BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious brightened our day
with:

>I just returned Doom3 and got Far Cry. Damn, it's sweet. The water is so...
>watery.
>
>
>
>
You know there are demos available for both games.

--
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www.inglostadt.com
Anonymous
November 10, 2004 4:55:47 AM

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Um why don't you try playing Doom today and see how exciting it is. Not only
technology but gaming expectations have changed since 1994. Face it, in
comparison to today's game Doom would be boring.

>And I'm also ready for Doom3 to live up to
>the level of Doom from years ago. It did not. Far Cry has set a standard
>in gaming that nothing else is meeting.
>
>johns


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Anonymous
November 10, 2004 1:42:11 PM

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"BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message news:<Y4xjd.5567$hp3.568110@read2.cgocable.net>...
> I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
> Service Plan!
>
> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been thinking.
> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
> expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
> have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
> returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
> opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3 for
> Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
>
> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not in
> the same "dying for it" way.
>
> Specs:
>
> Win98SE on
> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
> SB Audigy
>
> TIA


I don't see why you can't run the games in the highest settings.

Nick
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November 10, 2004 2:12:44 PM

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"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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> Um why don't you try playing Doom today and see how exciting it is. Not
> only
> technology but gaming expectations have changed since 1994. Face it, in
> comparison to today's game Doom would be boring.
>
<snip>

Surprisingly some people still play Doom/Doom2 and like it.
Doom3 was good for the first 3 levels or so then it became annoying because
nothing new happened. I really don't think it had done anything that hadn't
been done before, but yes it did look good.
IMHO Far cry was better.
Anonymous
November 10, 2004 2:12:45 PM

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Taking a moment's reflection, Son of Blahguy mused:
|
| Surprisingly some people still play Doom/Doom2 and like it.
| Doom3 was good for the first 3 levels or so then it became annoying
| because nothing new happened. I really don't think it had done anything
| that hadn't been done before, but yes it did look good.
| IMHO Far cry was better.

What Doom 3 lacks in two words: Monster in-fighting! I was so
disappointed I couldn't get monsters to fight each other. Where were the
hordes of Doom 2? Grrr. Looks great, but led to disappointment.
Anonymous
November 10, 2004 7:20:25 PM

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I have both games. Went half way through Doom 3 and got bored. The eye
candy is nice but the game play is repetitive and confined to corridors.
Far cry on the other hand is challenging and there are lots of different
strategies you can employ to get the bad guys. I think it looks nicer as
well. With your specs you should be able to run the graphics on "high".

JK

"Nicolas The Great" <tq144@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "BeingAnonymousMakesMeObnoxious" <comeon@dood.com> wrote in message
> news:<Y4xjd.5567$hp3.568110@read2.cgocable.net>...
>> I just traded in a wonky 8500 for a 9800Pro. Thanks Future Shop Product
>> Service Plan!
>>
>> Anyhow, I got myself a copy of Doom3 at the store, but I've been
>> thinking.
>> Based on my specs below, would I get more fun from Doom 3, or Far Cry? I
>> expect Far Cry would perform better, but will Doom 3 even be playable? I
>> have already bought Doom 3 but am thinking about not opening it and
>> returning it for a copy of Far Cry. What would you do: take a chance on
>> opening Doom3 and having it not run well (frustrating) or return Doom3
>> for
>> Far Cry and hope it is more fun?
>>
>> BTW I really want to play Doom 3. I want to play Far Cry as well but not
>> in
>> the same "dying for it" way.
>>
>> Specs:
>>
>> Win98SE on
>> P4 1.8 on ASUS P4T
>> 512 MB PC800 RDRAM
>> Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
>> SB Audigy
>>
>> TIA
>
>
> I don't see why you can't run the games in the highest settings.
>
> Nick
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November 11, 2004 5:04:26 PM

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"John Hall" <johnhall11@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<2fqdnYYrGNORGw_cRVn-rg@rogers.com>...
> I have both games. Went half way through Doom 3 and got bored. The eye
> candy is nice but the game play is repetitive and confined to corridors.
> Far cry on the other hand is challenging and there are lots of different
> strategies you can employ to get the bad guys. I think it looks nicer as
> well. With your specs you should be able to run the graphics on "high".
>
> JK

I have played both Far Cry and D3 (albeit I've finished Far Cry and
have played about 2 hours of D3 so far). So far, I much prefer Far
Cry's dynamics of game play, as well as the environments. You might
say D3 is a little more superior technically, but that's only one
facet of the game. From a gameplay standpoint, I think Far Cry has the
edge over D3.

I will agree that D3 is "scarier", although Far Cry definitely has its
moments as well. I absolutely love the open environment of FC, and how
that plays into the tactics of completing a level. How the levels and
mission progression moves forward is very seamless and intuitive. I
don't get the feeling of "okay, level 1 is over, now onto level 2".
There is a great flow to the game.

D3 is good. But if I had to choose, FC gets my vote.
Anonymous
November 12, 2004 12:07:47 AM

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Far Cry is definitely a different sort of game than Doom3 and/or Painkiller.
You can't just run and gun in Far Cry because all too frequently the AI will
flank you and beat you down.

The demo of Painkiller didn't really turn my crank but the full game is fun.
It's the mindless fun of Doom. I've been playing more Painkiller than Doom3 and
Far Cry (aftermarket levels, some of which are good) combined lately.

>Surprisingly some people still play Doom/Doom2 and like it.
>Doom3 was good for the first 3 levels or so then it became annoying because
>nothing new happened. I really don't think it had done anything that hadn't
>been done before, but yes it did look good.
>IMHO Far cry was better.
>


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