i want a pocket pc...

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....however none that i can find match what i want - integrated bluetooth and
wifi, and a compact flash slot.

the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i guess i could use sd
for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and capacity (and speed too i
think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no wifi. arrgh. in this
case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much prefer integrated,
enough to get the 4150 instead.

ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that has a CF slot - but
is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.

any ideas?

Spammy

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Ipaq 2210:
internal BT, optional WIFI on SDIO and you still get free the CF.
Franz


On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:36:11 +0100, "Paul Stephens" <paulNO
SPAM@web-clubs.co.uk> wrote:

>"spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:c6l4ff$cvcmb$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> ...however none that i can find match what i want - integrated bluetooth
>and
>> wifi, and a compact flash slot.

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yeh i thought of that too - but in all honesty id prefer the 4150 and
compromise on the price and speed of SD for storage purposes - unless
someone can point me to an SD wifi card that doesnt have an aerial that
sticks out?


"Franz" <franzsamR_E-M_O-V-E.ME@libero.it> wrote in message
news:l07s80pda10a88e0f4ge52u19hosg4t07b@4ax.com...
> Ipaq 2210:
> internal BT, optional WIFI on SDIO and you still get free the CF.
> Franz
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:36:11 +0100, "Paul Stephens" <paulNO
> SPAM@web-clubs.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >"spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:c6l4ff$cvcmb$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> ...however none that i can find match what i want - integrated
bluetooth
> >and
> >> wifi, and a compact flash slot.
>

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Toshiba has seen a few posts about poor support lately.


"spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c6l4ff$cvcmb$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de...
> ...however none that i can find match what i want - integrated bluetooth
and
> wifi, and a compact flash slot.
>
> the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i guess i could use
sd
> for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and capacity (and speed too
i
> think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no wifi. arrgh. in this
> case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much prefer
integrated,
> enough to get the 4150 instead.
>
> ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that has a CF slot - but
> is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.
>
> any ideas?
>
> Spammy
>
>

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Spammy,
There is no compromise in using a SD card over a CF card as the SD cards
now go up to 1 GB, with 2 and 4 GB ones coming out soon. They are about 10%
more (price) then CF cards, but are also much faster then the CF cards
around. I have the 4355 and love it. If you really do have to use CF cards,
there actually is a SD to CF card adapter now.Althou this is driving me nuts
as I was just reading about it, but cannot find it, thought it was from
Sandisk.

My guess is that SD cards will keep dropping in price since they are
getting now to the point of being the standard where before it was CF cards.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA



"spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c6l4ff$cvcmb$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de...
> ...however none that i can find match what i want - integrated bluetooth
> and
> wifi, and a compact flash slot.
>
> the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i guess i could use
> sd
> for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and capacity (and speed too
> i
> think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no wifi. arrgh. in this
> case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much prefer
> integrated,
> enough to get the 4150 instead.
>
> ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that has a CF slot - but
> is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.
>
> any ideas?
>
> Spammy
>
>

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where the heck can i get one from? no UK or US suppliers it seems...



"Franz" <franzsamR_E-M_O-V-E.ME@libero.it> wrote in message
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> FOUND FOR YOU!!!!
> Asus A716
> http://notebook.asus.it/prodotti/p [...] amica.html
>
>
>
> Franz
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:09:20 +0100, "spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >...however none that i can find match what i want - integrated bluetooth
and
> >wifi, and a compact flash slot.
> >
> >the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i guess i could use
sd
> >for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and capacity (and speed
too i
> >think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no wifi. arrgh. in
this
> >case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much prefer
integrated,
> >enough to get the 4150 instead.
> >
> >ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that has a CF slot -
but
> >is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.
> >
> >any ideas?
> >
> >Spammy
> >
>

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"Tedd Riggs" <T_Riggs@msn.cöm> wrote in message news:<umw2LuGLEHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> Spammy,
> There is no compromise in using a SD card over a CF card as the SD cards
> now go up to 1 GB, with 2 and 4 GB ones coming out soon. They are about 10%
> more (price) then CF cards, but are also much faster then the CF cards
> around.

What SD card have you found to be faster than CF? My (certainly
anecdotal and unofficial) experience screams to the contrary.

I use SD for memory on my PPCs to leave the CF slots open for
peripherals (GPS, wireless, analog modems, etc.) but my CF memory
cards (all old and cheap) smoke my SDs in terms of speed.

In my old Audiovox Maestro I used AvantoGo as my "test". When storing
Avantgo content in main memory, the home page would open in less than
two seconds. On CF, about six, and SD about twelve seconds. Mazingo
(back when they were still around) would take about thirty seconds to
open on SD, but less than 15 on CF- that's when I stopped using
Mazingo- when I switched to SD for memory! (Prior to my Maestro I
used a Casio E-115, and CF was the only option.)

Now the Maestro may have had a slow slot compared to newer PPCs- I
never bothered duplicating my unscientific speed tests on my Axim,
(since I was now committed to SD for memory and figured no good could
come from "proving" I was using slower cards!) but when shuffling
digital camera files around the Axim (my el cheapo camera uses SD, my
good one, CF) the CF pictures copy to main memory and back noticibly
faster than the SD.

Doesn't CF have more parallel address lines than SD? It would seem CF
_should_ be faster by design, all else being equal.

> My guess is that SD cards will keep dropping in price since they are
> getting now to the point of being the standard where before it was CF cards.

Agreed. I just had to replace my broken Nikon Coolpix camera and
deliberately had to buy "last year's model" to get one that uses CF
storage instead of SD. (I have too many CF cards to stop using them
now!) ;-)

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Most of the SD cards I have tested are faster then CF, especially something
like the Sandisk Ultra cards or the Ultra extreme cards. They (and others,
Lexar etc) will mention the faster access time on their web sites. I have
confirmed it many times on my 8-1 card reader respecially with large files.
Also I have heard a few people that use a Ipaq 2215 with both cards also
saying that load times are shorter.

My problem is after years of PDA's and Camera's that have CF cards is I
have a small "army" of CF cards and only one SD card.

Most of the time, the PDA cannot stay up to the higher speed cards, so
you cannot tell a difference, but you can see that difference real fast in
some of the newer 3 frame/sec, 6 MP and above camera's.
CF's have always been the standard for high end camera's (Nikon D-70, Most
Coolpix, Canon Digital Rebel lines) but from what I am hearing from the
camera people I know is that the newer camera's will be more and more SD
cards. And in looking at Vendors site, the newer cards are usually the SD's.

Some of my really old CF cards are painfully slow (like the Nikon 8 MB that
came with my Coolpix 995) and other newer ones are way faster. I have only
been using the SD for a short time, so I do not have a good history to fall
back on. Now I see that Sandisk has a new "mini-SD" card...Wish there were
not so many versions out there of various cards as I would guess that is
keeping the prices high. Seems like more new memory card versions come out
then Microsoft patches ! <g>

What CoolPix did you end up with ? I was thinking they all are CF. I am
stuck between a Nikon D-70 (fastest and "feels right" and best pictures), a
Canon EOS Digital Rebel (nice all around) or a Konica Minolta DiMAGE A2
(unreal amount of features, neat "autotrack" focusing, excellent anti-shake
mode and cool 1 MP digital viewfinder). Am leaning a little towards the
Nikon D-70 as I have a N-80 now with three Nikon lens.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA



"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aol.com> wrote in message
newse37a2e0.0404272032.4bfbe757@posting.google.com...
> "Tedd Riggs" <T_Riggs@msn.cöm> wrote in message
> news:<umw2LuGLEHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
>> Spammy,
>> There is no compromise in using a SD card over a CF card as the SD
>> cards
>> now go up to 1 GB, with 2 and 4 GB ones coming out soon. They are about
>> 10%
>> more (price) then CF cards, but are also much faster then the CF cards
>> around.
>
> What SD card have you found to be faster than CF? My (certainly
> anecdotal and unofficial) experience screams to the contrary.
>
> I use SD for memory on my PPCs to leave the CF slots open for
> peripherals (GPS, wireless, analog modems, etc.) but my CF memory
> cards (all old and cheap) smoke my SDs in terms of speed.
>
> In my old Audiovox Maestro I used AvantoGo as my "test". When storing
> Avantgo content in main memory, the home page would open in less than
> two seconds. On CF, about six, and SD about twelve seconds. Mazingo
> (back when they were still around) would take about thirty seconds to
> open on SD, but less than 15 on CF- that's when I stopped using
> Mazingo- when I switched to SD for memory! (Prior to my Maestro I
> used a Casio E-115, and CF was the only option.)
>
> Now the Maestro may have had a slow slot compared to newer PPCs- I
> never bothered duplicating my unscientific speed tests on my Axim,
> (since I was now committed to SD for memory and figured no good could
> come from "proving" I was using slower cards!) but when shuffling
> digital camera files around the Axim (my el cheapo camera uses SD, my
> good one, CF) the CF pictures copy to main memory and back noticibly
> faster than the SD.
>
> Doesn't CF have more parallel address lines than SD? It would seem CF
> _should_ be faster by design, all else being equal.
>
>> My guess is that SD cards will keep dropping in price since they are
>> getting now to the point of being the standard where before it was CF
>> cards.
>
> Agreed. I just had to replace my broken Nikon Coolpix camera and
> deliberately had to buy "last year's model" to get one that uses CF
> storage instead of SD. (I have too many CF cards to stop using them
> now!) ;-)

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"spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<c6m46m$do4un$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> where the heck can i get one from? no UK or US suppliers it seems...
>

If you're not in a rush... i'd wait.

There'll be an updated model of the ASUS soon with a VGA screen
(640x480), a 1.3 camera, and a better design of the handheld
altogether. I think it'll be the ASUS 730 and there's already been
pictures of it on the web.

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1958

Acer too has a similar competing model coming out soon.

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very true, although it costs £430 at exapansys versus the £250 i just spent
on a 4150...

thanks for the help guys - like i indicated, i chose the 4150 and hope to
pick up a 512meg sandisk ultra II for under 100. apparently that runs at
10mbit/s....

"Ralph" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5e0e01c42dcb$73421c60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Why don't you look at the fujitsu siemens pocket loox 610?
> I had mine for a week now:
> wifi, bt, 128 ram, comact flash, sd
> great and fast machine!
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >....however none that i can find match what i want -
> integrated bluetooth and
> >wifi, and a compact flash slot.
> >
> >the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i
> guess i could use sd
> >for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and
> capacity (and speed too i
> >think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no
> wifi. arrgh. in this
> >case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much
> prefer integrated,
> >enough to get the 4150 instead.
> >
> >ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that
> has a CF slot - but
> >is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.
> >
> >any ideas?
> >
> >Spammy
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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well ok, now that we're talking about use, are these blistering speeds
useful on a 4150? i read that it has 4 data lines so i think that means it
will make use of it, but i can get a vanilla 1-2MB/S SD for 80 quid or so...
will i see 20 quids worth of improvement on the ipaq?



"Tedd Riggs" <T_Riggs@msn.cöm> wrote in message
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> Spammy,
> The 512meg sandisk ultra II will run at worst case at 10mbit/s,
average
> actually speeds are more like 12-15mbits/s. It is one fast card, tried it
> out on USB II and Firewire card readers and it moves right along, same
thing
> for a 8 MP camera at 3 frames/sec. To keep up with that kind of speed on a
> camera you need one fast card. Having a no questions asked Lifetime
> Warranty is also rather nice !
>
>
> --
> Tedd Riggs
> PDA Square Content Developer
> www.pdasquare.com
> Redmond, WA
>
>
>
> "spammy" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c6qikp$epqvh$1@ID-111190.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > very true, although it costs £430 at exapansys versus the £250 i just
> > spent
> > on a 4150...
> >
> > thanks for the help guys - like i indicated, i chose the 4150 and hope
to
> > pick up a 512meg sandisk ultra II for under 100. apparently that runs at
> > 10mbit/s....
> >
> > "Ralph" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:5e0e01c42dcb$73421c60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Why don't you look at the fujitsu siemens pocket loox 610?
> >> I had mine for a week now:
> >> wifi, bt, 128 ram, comact flash, sd
> >> great and fast machine!
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >....however none that i can find match what i want -
> >> integrated bluetooth and
> >> >wifi, and a compact flash slot.
> >> >
> >> >the ipaq 4150 has the integrated wireless, but no CF. i
> >> guess i could use sd
> >> >for storage, but id have to compromise on cost and
> >> capacity (and speed too i
> >> >think). alternatively the 2110 has CF and BT - but no
> >> wifi. arrgh. in this
> >> >case i could buy an SD wifi adaptor - but id really much
> >> prefer integrated,
> >> >enough to get the 4150 instead.
> >> >
> >> >ive seen the toshiba (e400? or maybe the e800...) that
> >> has a CF slot - but
> >> >is available with EITHER BT OR wifi - not both. cripes.
> >> >
> >> >any ideas?
> >> >
> >> >Spammy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
>