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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:26:07 +0200, Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl>
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I do NOT own either camera. I post sophist/IMO stuff only.
I have an Olympus C750. I decided on it over the Oly S602Z (an
"upgrade", that I question, from the S5000)
>I'm trying to decide which one to buy, and I've read a
>couple of reviews. The S5000 seems to have more vignetting
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In some of the pictures taken with S5000, I see a little vignette
effect on the top corners, just like in
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmS5000/Samples/Vignetting/030809-
1443-10.jpg
Can anyone tell me when this occurs, since it is in some pictures and
in some it isn't found.
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Re: Vignette
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on 11/07/03 at 08:03:40, Artur Gajewski wrote:In some of the pictures
taken with S5000, I see a little vignette effect on the top corners,
just like in
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmS5000/Samples/Vignetting/030809-
1443-10.jpg
Can anyone tell me when this occurs, since it is in some pictures and
in some it isn't found.
It will occur mainly where there is sky. Many digital cams have this
problem. Some are more noticable then others. I tend to crop mine out
or clone the area during post processing.
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I think I see this with my Oly C750...sometimes. It is manageable. You
can post-process this easily.
>and more noise, but the s3000 lacks sensitivity, or so it
>seems.
>My question: how much does the fact that the iso
>setting can't be changed and is always 100 matter?
OK. My OPINION!
Noise. They are both 3 Mpi cameras, with the same-sized sensor. So the
noise factor should not alter. Sensor size and noise are inter-related
AFAICS.
AND
With increased ISO rating comes noise. This is like "grain" on film
with faster film.......only worse.
IMO, the "increased noise" on the 5000 will be _directly_ related to
the fact that it allows higher ISO ratings. This is not all bad. I
shoot mainly at 100 ISO, but will go to 200-400 if I have to. Blur vs
noise. Noise can be reduced. Blur cannot.
ALSO.
The Fuji S602Z (which I looked at "in the flesh") will "noise reduce"
shots without user intervention, IMO. Maybe other models do as well.
Hand your shots over to the Fuji "lab"....they may be the best at it.
Who nose?
BTW. If somebody can tell me why the S602Z is better than the S5000,
please do.
Fuji seems strong on "image processing" as default in the machine.
This is just my impression. You may be able to overcome it as a canny
photographer. But when I was comparing cameras, the Fuji was sold for
its "colour brilliance", while the result looked fake to me. I am not
alone in that impression.
ISO 3200? Forget it at present. BUT. I do feel that digital cameras
are fairly tolerant of underexposure, if you are willing to spend some
free time in the digital darkroom.
If you want range, forget it. Digital cameras also suffer from
_severe_ noise if you use long exposures.
>This is going to be my first digital camera, and with my old
>mirror reflex I used 400 iso quite a lot, and sometimes I
>even used as much as 3200 for low light and colour effects.
At the present stage of progress, in your price range (or anything
like it) not expect ISO above 400 to be usable. Even 200 is noisy.
There are ways around this (Noise Ninja is one), but they take time
and are at the expense of image sharpness in many cases. More digital
darkroom.
>What are the limitations of having only iso 100 on a digital
>camera?
Severe. Go for the 5000. You can reduce noise. You cannot ever get the
missed shot or reduce motion blur.
BTW. There are many other aspects, "features" and limitations you need
to look at.
Ask about them.
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