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5TB External HDDs Arriving in Three Months?

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October 13, 2011 5:04:35 PM

5 Months would be in March.
October 13, 2011 5:16:43 PM

Im confused why they would come out with external before internal?
October 13, 2011 5:22:04 PM

Larger capacity drives usually come out as external first because internal drives have space limitation where externals dont.
October 13, 2011 5:28:19 PM

Porn and movie pirates rejoice
Anonymous
October 13, 2011 5:28:25 PM

To be more exact (using 150KB/s uncompressed CD sound, and 1TB=1000GB, 1GB=1000MB) that's 1.06 years of music playing 24-7. But because it's Seagate, the drive will fail before you get to that point.
October 13, 2011 5:29:04 PM

These companies CONSUMER businesses are in jeopardy once cloud computing becomes mainstream. I'm sure they'd be looking to form stronger ties with corporations that provide cloud services as of now.
October 13, 2011 5:31:24 PM

HansVonOhain5 Months would be in March.

Did they edit it, because I see 3 months but 5 TB?!?!?
October 13, 2011 5:37:24 PM

jcb82These companies CONSUMER businesses are in jeopardy once cloud computing becomes mainstream. I'm sure they'd be looking to form stronger ties with corporations that provide cloud services as of now.


Cloud computing has serious limitations though, first of which is your internet connection. I work with large databases and fiber is not available in my area, so there is no way I would be able to work from home using the cloud.
October 13, 2011 5:45:27 PM

Wow, I don't have enough pr0n to fill that drive! :D 

HansVonOhain5 Months would be in March.


Thanks for stating the obvious.

Seagatehasbeenhjunksincethe80sTo be more exact (using 150KB/s uncompressed CD sound, and 1TB=1000GB, 1GB=1000MB) that's 1.06 years of music playing 24-7. But because it's Seagate, the drive will fail before you get to that point.


Nonsense; Seagate is a great brand and has been very reliable for me. There're some Seagates that came out when SATA first appeared, and they still run fine on the PCs I repair...

Anyway, I've got a WD 1.36 TB external drive and it still has 880GB free. What I want now is more affordable SSDs; very few people have enough data to even fill 2TB (unless they download every movie they see and hear about, like some do).
October 13, 2011 5:51:25 PM

This is what I'm waiting for!
Of course the first year the price will be prohibitive, but soon after that a 5TB internal drive will be around $150-$180 US.

I will a few of this when they hit that point.
I currently have most of my movies on hard drives and I have simply ran out of space. I want 8 of this 5TB drives in a NAS!

October 13, 2011 5:57:09 PM

Seagatehasbeenhjunksincethe80sTo be more exact (using 150KB/s uncompressed CD sound, and 1TB=1000GB, 1GB=1000MB) that's 1.06 years of music playing 24-7. But because it's Seagate, the drive will fail before you get to that point.


Yippee.. lets get technical! Assuming typical CD-quality music, then you're dealing with PCM 16 bit 44.1khz quality sound, which has an uncompressed bit rate of 1411.1kilobits/second. Convert that to kiloBYTES is 176.4KB/s. Also, 1024 KB = 1 MB, and 1024 MB = 1 GB not multiples of 1000!! So convert to real storage numbers 5*1000/1024 = 4.8828125. 4.8828125*1024*1024*1024/176.4 = 29721542 seconds of music or 344 days of music.
October 13, 2011 5:58:55 PM

Quote "According to the company, that's enough capacity to store up to 120 high-definition movies, 1,500 video games, thousands of photos or "virtually countless hours of digital music.""

When will the industry realize that these values are meaningless.
October 13, 2011 6:13:13 PM

i hate it when harddrive manufacturers make claims about how many thousands of songs or pictures or hours of video their new goliath harddrives can hold, it's meaningless.
are these songs 128kbps mp3 or flac? are these pictures 1 or 14 megapixels? are these videos youtube or blu-ray quality?
but that 1500 video games claim up there takes the cake, are those 15mb or 15gb games?
morons.
October 13, 2011 6:18:20 PM

5TB drives? Those would be sweet for my NAS...
No problem with seagate unreliability when using RAID 5 :D 
October 13, 2011 6:24:57 PM

dalmvernCloud computing has serious limitations though, first of which is your internet connection. I work with large databases and fiber is not available in my area, so there is no way I would be able to work from home using the cloud.

And you dont think that people hosting your info on the cloud would love to get their hands on this, a server with 12 1TB drives could go from being able to store 12TB to 60TB with same power output.
October 13, 2011 6:26:47 PM

sorry did not mean to qoute you dlamvern, meant to quote jcb82 and even then, i misread his post anyways so...yeah read on nothing to read here lol
October 13, 2011 6:49:39 PM

It cannot hold countless hours of music. At least not music thats worth listening to. I exclusively use lossless audio because 128 and 256 kbs mp3s sound like crap. Most lossless audio files are around 30 megs. That means I can store 165,000 songs on that drive. Thats alot, but no where near limitless.
October 13, 2011 7:02:18 PM

soccerdocksIt cannot hold countless hours of music. At least not music thats worth listening to. I exclusively use lossless audio because 128 and 256 kbs mp3s sound like crap. Most lossless audio files are around 30 megs. That means I can store 165,000 songs on that drive. Thats alot, but no where near limitless.

256 kbps MP3s sound like crap? I'm sorry, but there are *very* few people that can hear the difference between 256 kbps MP3s and the original uncompressed audio. Even if you are one of those lucky few, actually hearing the difference requires listening through an extremely accurate sound system (i.e. studio monitors).
October 13, 2011 7:21:33 PM

soccerdocksIt cannot hold countless hours of music. At least not music thats worth listening to. I exclusively use lossless audio because 128 and 256 kbs mp3s sound like crap. Most lossless audio files are around 30 megs. That means I can store 165,000 songs on that drive. Thats alot, but no where near limitless.


I think you're awesome because of your super high standards.
October 13, 2011 7:43:08 PM

This is great news! It means that a 5TB Western Digital drive should be in the works!
October 13, 2011 7:52:17 PM

+1 on they should make them reliable:

5 tb of lost data is really not the way I want to go:

WD FTW
October 13, 2011 7:56:08 PM

i love technology. Geek FTW.
October 13, 2011 8:30:07 PM

This is good for everyone, bigger HDDs at the top end drop the price of everything underneath.
I will soon be able to replace the bank of 1Tb drives in RAID for my vid collection with 3Tb drives at a tiny cost, and by the time I have filled those no doubt 10Tb drives will be at a cost equally good to replace those.
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Best of all it should also force up capacity and drop price of SSDs as well.
October 13, 2011 8:49:58 PM

back_by_demand said:
This is good for everyone, bigger HDDs at the top end drop the price of everything underneath.
I will soon be able to replace the bank of 1Tb drives in RAID for my vid collection with 3Tb drives at a tiny cost, and by the time I have filled those no doubt 10Tb drives will be at a cost equally good to replace those.
...
Best of all it should also force up capacity and drop price of SSDs as well.


No... why should it? Different markets, sadly.
October 13, 2011 9:07:32 PM

amk-aka-phantomNo... why should it? Different markets, sadly.

Some of the SSD market is reliant on people moving from HDD to SSD, usually when the price hits the sweet-spot per person on the cost-per-GB basis, so when the cost of HDDs drops the incentive to move widens the gap, they may be different markets but they are linked at the point people switch camps.
October 13, 2011 9:29:48 PM

jcb82Yippee.. lets get technical! Assuming typical CD-quality music, then you're dealing with PCM 16 bit 44.1khz quality sound, which has an uncompressed bit rate of 1411.1kilobits/second. Convert that to kiloBYTES is 176.4KB/s. Also, 1024 KB = 1 MB, and 1024 MB = 1 GB not multiples of 1000!! So convert to real storage numbers 5*1000/1024 = 4.8828125. 4.8828125*1024*1024*1024/176.4 = 29721542 seconds of music or 344 days of music.

Have you considered that he may be talking about how Hard Drive manufacturers calculate TB for their hard drives, which is by 1000, not 1024. Not that I am saying he is right, but not as wrong as you make him out to be.

October 13, 2011 9:36:13 PM

big deal. let me know when the exabyte drives come out
October 13, 2011 9:38:43 PM

oxxfatelostxxoIm confused why they would come out with external before internal?

Well think about it from a different perspective. Who NEEDS 5 TB of data on their internal HDD? Virtually no one. This way, at least the 5 TB can be shared on a home network if users have the know-how to implement something like that.
October 13, 2011 9:41:16 PM

dalmvernLarger capacity drives usually come out as external first because internal drives have space limitation where externals dont.


says the guy on a pentium 4 windows XP PC

5 bucks says he so insecure he will come back and post his complete comuter specs all the way down to the chassis
October 13, 2011 9:46:49 PM

BenihanaThis is great news! It means that a 5TB Western Digital drive should be in the works!


That's what I was thinking. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a 5TB 7200RPM WD drive
October 13, 2011 9:48:09 PM

IT would like this drive for image making.
October 13, 2011 11:00:12 PM

soccerdocksIt cannot hold countless hours of music. At least not music thats worth listening to. I exclusively use lossless audio because 128 and 256 kbs mp3s sound like crap. Most lossless audio files are around 30 megs. That means I can store 165,000 songs on that drive. Thats alot, but no where near limitless.


This sounds like the guy at work that told me playing back audio from his 500GB ssd has better sound quality than from a conventional HDD. hahaha
October 13, 2011 11:23:09 PM

I feel like a computer noob. I only use 10% of my 500GB drive.
October 14, 2011 1:04:04 AM

Bring in the affordable >2TB 7200rpm INTERNAL HDD now! I have 3x Samsung 103SJ already.
October 14, 2011 1:49:41 AM

god damnit i just got a spinpoint f3 1tb hdd, upgrading from 150gb... GAHHH
October 14, 2011 2:19:27 AM

I'm surprised that they've not been promoting hybrid SSD/HDD drives more these days. If it were to system-build I'd go with a 64GB SSD drive for my OS and a regular HDD for media and non-essential apps.
October 14, 2011 2:54:21 AM

I'm going to have to buy 3 of these suckers to store all my porn, whoops, I mean scientific data and research.
October 14, 2011 7:07:32 AM

can computers even recognize 5tb hard drives? or will an add-on card be necessary?

tomfreakBring in the affordable >2TB 7200rpm INTERNAL HDD now! I have 3x Samsung 103SJ already.


you can get a 2tb WD20EARS hard drive for 75 bucks now...canadian..80 on newegg.ca

eklipz330god damnit i just got a spinpoint f3 1tb hdd, upgrading from 150gb... GAHHH


those spinpoints are solid hdds...plus u can never have too many hard drives, i've got 6 hard drives (6.25tb worth and 1 of which is an f3)..i'm kinda a digital hoarder XD
October 14, 2011 7:11:37 AM

Formatted capacity?
October 14, 2011 8:33:22 AM

loubarouba 1. Can computers even recognize 5tb hard drives? 2. Or will an add-on card be necessary?


1. You need the newer UEFI BIOS to read them without any hassle. Just built a new PC for my aunt and uncle, Asus P8Z68-V and it has a great UEFI BIOS, I love it. Crucial M4 128GB SSD, very nice, not the fastest, but rather have good quality than too much speed and RMA's. Especially if not my PC, where Images and what not I could deal with it easier, non tech people, it would be a big PITA.

Got a WD 3TB green drive and the Asus MB and Win7 x64 recognized it just fine. I did run a 6 hour hard drive test on it before I started using it and am happy with it. I like my Samsung HD204UI 2TB drives, but that WD is the one I'd like in my system.

I'm turned off of Seagate right now, but maybe they'll start doing better quality control with these 5TB's? I really, really hope so. I'm hoping that SpinRite 6 will eventually come out with 6.1 to handle these bigger drives. I'm sure it does just fine, but it's an old program, and would feel much more comfortable with a newer version, just in case the bigger drives I'll eventually will be buying run into problems.

2. The right addon cards should work just fine. I thought I read many months ago that some models come with one?

I was thinking of an addon card and such and more DDR2 RAM for my Intel 775 (Q6600) PC. But I'm just going to hold off and build all new and I'll get UEFI BIOS, USB 3.0 and PCIe 3.0 that just came out.

Of course it helps I'm close to a Micro Center though. Their CPU, MB combo's are very, very competitive.

October 14, 2011 11:28:58 AM

__-_-_-__also 5 platers are hard to place on a single 3.5HDD, with external they can make it bigger.

Are you saying that a 5-platter drive is physically bigger (hard drive casing) than a 3-platter drive?
October 14, 2011 6:26:41 PM

Quote:
I've never trusted Samsung's products & I still don't trust them. They don't really last as long as other well known products,bar the HP although,they could even be worse.
thanks.http://www.uklv.info/g.php



you must be rough with your gear man cause i have a 5+ year old samsung LCD monitor still running strong with no issues or dead pixels HP is nothing but cheap crap and is cheaper low wuality crap than samsung and thats says somtething

FAIL at spreading the hate :hello: 

October 14, 2011 6:32:17 PM

Hello 5x5TB RAID5 array.
October 14, 2011 8:37:44 PM

dalmvernLarger capacity drives usually come out as external first because internal drives have space limitation where externals dont.

The drives in the desktop external enclosures are always standard height 3.5" drives, not thicker. So you can usually hack open the case and throw it in your computer case, no problem.
Super high capacity 2.5" external drives may be different. For instance, Seagate GoFlex Freeagent uses a 4-platter 1.5TB drive that is 14-15mm thick instead of the normal 9.5mm (2platter) or 12.5mm(3platter) form factor.
October 14, 2011 8:42:42 PM

halcyonAre you saying that a 5-platter drive is physically bigger (hard drive casing) than a 3-platter drive?

Nope, they can stuff up to 5 platter in a standard height 3.5" drive case. They just sometimes put those drives in external enclosures so they can I guess jack up prices more.
October 15, 2011 8:01:06 PM

Igot1foryaWhen will the industry realize that these values are meaningless.


When the average Joe is no longer a technology consumer (IOW: never). Believe it or not, there are plenty of people out there that have no clue what a gigabyte is.
October 17, 2011 6:58:53 AM

jcb82I'm surprised that they've not been promoting hybrid SSD/HDD drives more these days. If it were to system-build I'd go with a 64GB SSD drive for my OS and a regular HDD for media and non-essential apps.


Why do that when you can have people buy a SSD and HDD separate (2 separate items, 2 separate markets, 2 separate revenue streams) and use the SSD for OS and the mechanical HDD/s for storage.

Alternatively on Intel Z68 chipsets you could have your cake and eat it too with Intel Smart Response Technology - SRT [http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/05/11/intel_smart_r...].

Beyond all that; hybrid drives would not be the most ideal of storage devices because it would be cost prohibitive (data chips and controllers for SSD drives are not cheap and it will be a few more years before these become as cheap and widespread as mechanical HDDs, meaning these hybrid drives would be more expensive) for pure storage purposes (NAS/File Servers/DAS/etc.) where cheap and reliable access to data is more important than speed.

RAID + a copy for a separate offsite backup gets expensive very quickly with SSDs; which wouldn't see them being used to their full potential while sitting idle 90% of their uptime anyway.

As to the article itself, isn't this the same tech that was developed by Samsung previously before Seagate purchased their HDD division?
October 17, 2011 3:13:48 PM

molo90005TB drives? Those would be sweet for my NAS...No problem with seagate unreliability when using RAID 5


Ummm, yeah you have a problem. Do you have any idea how long it would take to rebuild a 5TB drive in an array? Probably 2 days. And Seagate's current reliability is so suspect you probably would have 2 more drives fail in that time if one already did. (I'm assuming you are joking about having no problems with seagate unreliability) I went from WD to Seagate and now am on Samsung. This is over the course of the past 25 years or so. I don't remember the first manufacturer of the first 32MB hard drive I bought, but most people don't remember MFM, RLL, ESDI or the really old drive interfaces anyways. Or having to manually figure out interleaving for drives, etc...

Anyways, I don't know why anyone downrated your comment presumably on Seagate reliability. They suck. And that the series is discontinued, you can't even find the reviews on newegg without knowing the old part number. I don't even think the 3+4+5 star ratings even added up to 60%. I've basically decided that the 4+5 star review better add up close to over 75% before I even bother with that hard drive anymore, because backing up anything over 1TB is a pain in the rear end and is an enormous time sink.

So I'll buy if the reviews add up, but I sure am not holding my breath. I've had 3 seagates of different sizes die in less than 3 months of use (one was within a week), and all my computers are plugged into UPS.
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