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My property is the first (or last, depending on your view point) on the non
ADSL exchange. I have a phone line in a shed which is the last "property"
on the ADSL ENABLED one. BT state that I can get a 512kbps service (max)
from the shed and run a wireless connection to my house but what are the
advantages, if any, of choosing this route over say running CAT5 cable
across to my house? The shed is 20 metres from my house and I would ideally
like to use the BT connection in the shed to also run not only my PC, but a
phone as well (I guess I'd have to invest in a hands-free phone with good
range to get to the shed) BT say their wireless option extends to 200
metres so I should be OK with distance.
I see wireless as a nice and tidy option with no running cables, but I do
have concerns about security. I play a lot of on-line games as well and I
did hear that wireless can prevent some of these running because of firewall
issues (I don't understand why though to be honest)
Please help me choose, I am sick of being on this crummy ISDN. I have
tried to ask BT for advice, but has anyone managed to call them these days
and get to talk to someone with technical knowledge? Believe me, it is
actually impossible to do so! If you reply, please bear in mind im not too
savvy with I.T
thanks
Ian
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:05:36 +0100, "Ian" <ipember@removethisfirst.msn.com>
wrote:
>My property is the first (or last, depending on your view point) on the non
>ADSL exchange. I have a phone line in a shed which is the last "property"
>on the ADSL ENABLED one. BT state that I can get a 512kbps service (max)
>from the shed and run a wireless connection to my house but what are the
>advantages, if any, of choosing this route over say running CAT5 cable
>across to my house? The shed is 20 metres from my house and I would ideally
>like to use the BT connection in the shed to also run not only my PC, but a
>phone as well (I guess I'd have to invest in a hands-free phone with good
>range to get to the shed) BT say their wireless option extends to 200
>metres so I should be OK with distance.
>
>I see wireless as a nice and tidy option with no running cables, but I do
>have concerns about security. I play a lot of on-line games as well and I
>did hear that wireless can prevent some of these running because of firewall
>issues (I don't understand why though to be honest)
>
>Please help me choose, I am sick of being on this crummy ISDN. I have
>tried to ask BT for advice, but has anyone managed to call them these days
>and get to talk to someone with technical knowledge? Believe me, it is
>actually impossible to do so! If you reply, please bear in mind im not too
>savvy with I.T
>
>
>thanks
>
>Ian
Ian,
The problem with gaming and wireless LANs is that the wireless signal is
half-duplex (you can only send or receive at any given time), as opposed to a
wired signal, which is full-duplex with two circuits. You'll have bandwidth
(even an 802.11b LAN will support a 512k WAN easily), but the latency caused by
a half-duplex conversation will make gaming less enjoyable.
Gaming and firewalls may present a challenge, if you run a gaming server. But a
wireless firewall should be no more of a problem than a wired firewall.
And, yes, the interference / security problem is something you should consider.
Particularly if any neighbors get a wireless setup too.
IMHO, you'll be better off with a carefully installed Cat5 cable into your
house.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Thanks for the advice. One thing I haven't mentioned...why don't I just run
a phone extension socket from the shed to the house? A friend of mine has
done this and his extension runs over 50 feet and he hasn't lost any speed.
"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:05:36 +0100, "Ian"
<ipember@removethisfirst.msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >My property is the first (or last, depending on your view point) on the
non
> >ADSL exchange. I have a phone line in a shed which is the last
"property"
> >on the ADSL ENABLED one. BT state that I can get a 512kbps service (max)
> >from the shed and run a wireless connection to my house but what are the
> >advantages, if any, of choosing this route over say running CAT5 cable
> >across to my house? The shed is 20 metres from my house and I would
ideally
> >like to use the BT connection in the shed to also run not only my PC, but
a
> >phone as well (I guess I'd have to invest in a hands-free phone with good
> >range to get to the shed) BT say their wireless option extends to 200
> >metres so I should be OK with distance.
> >
> >I see wireless as a nice and tidy option with no running cables, but I do
> >have concerns about security. I play a lot of on-line games as well and
I
> >did hear that wireless can prevent some of these running because of
firewall
> >issues (I don't understand why though to be honest)
> >
> >Please help me choose, I am sick of being on this crummy ISDN. I have
> >tried to ask BT for advice, but has anyone managed to call them these
days
> >and get to talk to someone with technical knowledge? Believe me, it is
> >actually impossible to do so! If you reply, please bear in mind im not
too
> >savvy with I.T
> >
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Ian
>
> Ian,
>
> The problem with gaming and wireless LANs is that the wireless signal is
> half-duplex (you can only send or receive at any given time), as opposed
to a
> wired signal, which is full-duplex with two circuits. You'll have
bandwidth
> (even an 802.11b LAN will support a 512k WAN easily), but the latency
caused by
> a half-duplex conversation will make gaming less enjoyable.
>
> Gaming and firewalls may present a challenge, if you run a gaming server.
But a
> wireless firewall should be no more of a problem than a wired firewall.
>
> And, yes, the interference / security problem is something you should
consider.
> Particularly if any neighbors get a wireless setup too.
>
> IMHO, you'll be better off with a carefully installed Cat5 cable into your
> house.
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:53:51 +0100, "Ian" <ipember@removethisfirst.msn.com>
wrote:
>Thanks for the advice. One thing I haven't mentioned...why don't I just run
>a phone extension socket from the shed to the house? A friend of mine has
>done this and his extension runs over 50 feet and he hasn't lost any speed.
Seems like that would work too. At 512k distance I wouldn't think another 50
feet will hurt. Long as you use a 4 wire extension cable - and make sure its
good quality outdoor grade cable - connected tightly.
Just don't tell BT - they might get PO'd about you running a line from one
exchange to another.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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I am going ADSL next Friday and trying the phone extension route first as
the most cost effective. BT are aware of what I'm doing. It is legal as
the extension comes from the front of the panel and the Engineer informed me
that this was mine to do as I choose. If I get degradation of service, I
will try the CAT 5 cable route.
Ian
"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:53:51 +0100, "Ian"
<ipember@removethisfirst.msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the advice. One thing I haven't mentioned...why don't I just
run
> >a phone extension socket from the shed to the house? A friend of mine
has
> >done this and his extension runs over 50 feet and he hasn't lost any
speed.
>
> Seems like that would work too. At 512k distance I wouldn't think another
50
> feet will hurt. Long as you use a 4 wire extension cable - and make sure
its
> good quality outdoor grade cable - connected tightly.
>
> Just don't tell BT - they might get PO'd about you running a line from one
> exchange to another. >
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:35:07 +0100, "Ian" <ipember@removethisfirst.msn.com>
wrote:
>I am going ADSL next Friday and trying the phone extension route first as
>the most cost effective. BT are aware of what I'm doing. It is legal as
>the extension comes from the front of the panel and the Engineer informed me
>that this was mine to do as I choose. If I get degradation of service, I
>will try the CAT 5 cable route.
Sounds fun. Just use quality parts, and connections.
Cheers,
Chuck
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