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Anonymous
December 19, 2004 8:49:45 PM

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Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)

I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
Planar PX191 19"
Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"

I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.

A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
etc, so a low response time is preferred.
I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.

Any ideas?
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Anonymous
December 19, 2004 11:20:34 PM

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Jason Ash <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> waxed eloquent in
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> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I
> had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs,
> and PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>

I also plan to try to use dual monitor until my current CRT up and quits.
Due to desk space, I am unable to fit two CRTs on the desk, which is
another reason for shopping for a LCD.

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Anonymous
December 19, 2004 11:46:35 PM

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"Jason Ash" <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
> Any ideas?

Yep, stick with a crt.. response time is faster, and colors are more
accurate.. plus they are 1/5th of the price.

I've yet to see a flat screen I could live with and every single digital
artist I know of refuses to use a flat screen because of refresh and color
issues.


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December 20, 2004 5:12:32 AM

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Jason Ash wrote:
>
> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
> Any ideas?
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If your main purpose is playing games LCD is NOT the way to go.
CRT monitors remain the best for gameplay, if any store/salesman tells
you differently they are lying through their teeth.


Gordon
December 20, 2004 10:08:03 AM

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Before you buy anything, make certain your video card is not going bad.
That was my trouble, my granddaughter's and a friends trouble, rather
than the CRT itself.
Anonymous
December 20, 2004 12:58:27 PM

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In article <Xns95C4BF905AB43jash7165wideopenwest@216.196.97.142>,
m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net says...
> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.

Check out www.tomshardware.com. Many good, full featured reviews. He
checks response time not at just the 0-100% switching given in ads (and
even then, usually over-optimistic), but also at lower levels. The
switching time is much slower then. Also avoid overrated specs like
contrast ratio. Usually given when comparing sunburn-level brightness to
black. The real usable ratio is usually much lower. There is also an
article explaining the marketing scams related to the above.

As other have posted, try your monitor on another computer, or try
another monitor on your computer. You need to verify that it is the
monitor itself that is bad, and not the computer or video card.

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Anonymous
December 20, 2004 2:36:58 PM

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I'm using a BENQ FP937s and it's the first (of three) LCD's that I've had
that works well in fps games. CRT's I've had in the past all suffered from
focus issues after a while, gave me migraines took up so much space.

Don't believe the cynics here, LCD's are not bad at all nowadays. Make sure
you have a refersh rate at an absolute maximum of 16ms, 25ms just won't cut
it. 12ms is what my LCD is and there are some 8ms ones now. Unless your
doing true colour photo work the LCD will be fine, might need some fine
tuning.

As for the Dells forget the 17" it's 25ms, the 19" is 20ms so is marginal,
the 20" is 16ms so would be OK. However you can get 19" 12ms TFT's now the
BENQ FP937 for example or a Philips 190X5FB.

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"Jason Ash" <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
> Any ideas?
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Anonymous
December 20, 2004 2:36:59 PM

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"Andi Cole" <andi@eloc00.co.uk> wrote

> Don't believe the cynics here, LCD's are not bad at all nowadays.

Hey I'd move to a LCD in a minute, if I thought I;d get an advantage from
it.

Again, check any of the digital graphic developement, or digital photography
newsgroups.. there isn;t even a debate on LCDs being up to par yet. The
general consensus is that LCDs are get for low end consumer use, but just
are not there yet for professional uses.

There are color shift issues, refresh rate issues, and angle visibility
issues that are just not acceptable for grpahic developement uses.

Red needs to look "real world" red, not a close approximation.

They are especially bad when you develop on one, and then display on a
normat crt, and see many hue variances.

As I said, check the various forums fore digital photography, 3d work and
such, and you won't even consider a LCD yet.


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December 20, 2004 3:34:52 PM

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Le Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:49:45 -0600, Jason Ash
<m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> a écrit :

> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
>an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
>PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
>through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
>than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
>couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
>Planar PX191 19"
>Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
>Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
>Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
>I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
>20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
>letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
>A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
>Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
>I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
>etc, so a low response time is preferred.
>I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
>Any ideas?

I have dell laptop costing very much.
The display is 16/9 ratio; playing dvd flawlessly, but not tried
games.
Yes, you should keep this manufacturer to go and get one of the
monitor.
December 20, 2004 4:00:52 PM

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Gareee© wrote:
> "Andi Cole" <andi@eloc00.co.uk> wrote
>
>
>>Don't believe the cynics here, LCD's are not bad at all nowadays.
>
>
> Hey I'd move to a LCD in a minute, if I thought I;d get an advantage from
> it.
>
> Again, check any of the digital graphic developement, or digital photography
> newsgroups.. there isn;t even a debate on LCDs being up to par yet. The
> general consensus is that LCDs are get for low end consumer use, but just
> are not there yet for professional uses.
>
> There are color shift issues, refresh rate issues, and angle visibility
> issues that are just not acceptable for grpahic developement uses.
>
> Red needs to look "real world" red, not a close approximation.
>
> They are especially bad when you develop on one, and then display on a
> normat crt, and see many hue variances.
>
> As I said, check the various forums fore digital photography, 3d work and
> such, and you won't even consider a LCD yet.
>
>

Agree on the Pro uses but the OP uses his PC primarily for game playing.
A lot of LCD's are fast enough for that now. Shaun
Anonymous
December 20, 2004 4:00:53 PM

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in message
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> Agree on the Pro uses but the OP uses his PC primarily for game playing. A
> lot of LCD's are fast enough for that now. Shaun

Yeah, but not with the newer video cards running hi res 100+ fps.

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December 20, 2004 8:21:59 PM

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"Jason Ash" <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
> Any ideas?


First remove the monitor from the ups system and see if the problem goes
away - then buy another monitor..
Anonymous
December 21, 2004 12:45:52 AM

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> Yeah, but not with the newer video cards running hi res 100+ fps.

Why? mines fine runing 100 fps in GTR.

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> > Agree on the Pro uses but the OP uses his PC primarily for game playing.
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> > lot of LCD's are fast enough for that now. Shaun
>
> Yeah, but not with the newer video cards running hi res 100+ fps.
>
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Anonymous
December 21, 2004 8:48:53 PM

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BenQ=Acer
For those that have owned Acer products.
Anonymous
December 21, 2004 11:33:34 PM

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"Jason Ash" <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>
> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>
> Any ideas?
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Been using a Dell 2001FP for nearly a year now (wow already!). All I have to
say it is the BEST monitor I have ever had. It has worked flawlessly for any
game I throw at it at any resolution up to 1600x1200. With the 16ms
response time there is absolutely zero video smearing. The 16ms essentially
equates to around 60 fps, so even if there is "smearing" it won't be visible
to the naked eye. It has four inputs, one DVI, one 15-pin VGA, one S-Video,
and one composite. I have two PC's and my XBOX attached to it. It even has
an add-on speaker that snaps to it too. It can also be rotated easily if
you're into desktop publishing and need that feature.

The good thing is that Dell usually has excellent deals on it too. I got
mine for around $750 and had a $100 off coupon for buying a Dell a year
earlier (Xmas gift for my sister and her family). So, keep a lookout for
deals and it will be a purchase you won't regret.
Anonymous
December 21, 2004 11:36:59 PM

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"Gordon Scott" <gordsmail@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Jason Ash wrote:
>>
>> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
>> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
>> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>>
>> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
>> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
>> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
>> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
>> Planar PX191 19"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>>
>> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
>> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
>> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>>
>> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
>> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
>> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
>> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
>> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>>
>> Any ideas?
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>
> If your main purpose is playing games LCD is NOT the way to go.
> CRT monitors remain the best for gameplay, if any store/salesman tells
> you differently they are lying through their teeth.
>
>
> Gordon

Huh? Been using my Dell 2001FP for about a year now mainly for gaming and it
is the clearest, crispest, and best picture I have ever had even compared
with my Sony Trinitron 19". Not to mention I gained back 80% of my desk
space. 16ms or faster response time is awesome for gaming. Also recommend
getting one with a 1600x1200 native resolution since it tends to scale best
to lower resolutions while keeping its crispness, presumably by its massive
amounts of pixels.
Anonymous
December 22, 2004 2:09:10 AM

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Jason Ash wrote:

> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
> Planar PX191 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>
> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>
> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.

Of those you mention, only the 2001FP comes close to being good for
gaming. I've seen the panel - I've even owned the 23" version of what is
technically the same panel - but it didn't please me. It's still a
little choppy, so the may say it's 16ms, but you can see it's not as
fast in refreshing as a CRT. I took mine back, and ended up buying a
second hand SONY F520 - which makes me veeeery happy.

Getting a TFT to display 24bit color as it is meant to be comes at a
price: the better the color reproduction, the slower the panel's
response. So you'll have to choose: if you want 24bit color and gaming,
you NEED a CRT. If you want a TFT and gaming, you'll have to drop the
24bit thing and then the BenQ FP71E+ is the best buy available. If you
want to buy a TFT from Dell, I'd get the 2005FP. AFAIK It's a 20.1"
widescreen (1680x1050) 16ms panel, and is currently on sale - cheaper
than the 2001FP.
December 22, 2004 4:07:00 PM

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Matt wrote:
>>If your main purpose is playing games LCD is NOT the way to go.
>
>
> FWIW, I have a 25ms ViewSonic VX900. At that speed games are fine. If you can
> find yourself a 16ms monitor you will be fine.
>
> Since I removed my ViewSonic P810 I've gained so much more desk space! The
> sharpness and clairity is awesome compared to the CRT's in my house.
>
>
> Matt
>
> gamefixer@aol.com
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> Suite F, PMB 105
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> 916-275-5871
>

Same here. Got a cheap (£150) Aria 17" LCD monitor yesterday. Looks
great, takes up no desk space and HL2 and UT2004 play great. No
ghosting whatsoever. 14ms screen. Shaun
Anonymous
December 23, 2004 11:34:31 PM

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Refresh rate is irrelevant with LCD monitors. Set your refresh rate to 60 or
70 Hz, set vertical retrace sync and let your GPU cool down :-)

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>
>> Agree on the Pro uses but the OP uses his PC primarily for game playing. A
>> lot of LCD's are fast enough for that now. Shaun
>
>Yeah, but not with the newer video cards running hi res 100+ fps.

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December 24, 2004 8:15:47 PM

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picked up an acer al1715bm 12ms lcd $390Aus, HLF2 and CS S etc, wow!!! my
old CRT is blur central compared this baby

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> "Jason Ash" <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns95C4BF905AB43jash7165wideopenwest@216.196.97.142...
>> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I had
>> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs, and
>> PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>>
>> I've got a built by ATI Radeon 9700Pro. I am planning to get an LCD
>> through Dell (I already have Dell credit) I am looking at no smaller
>> than a 17" and preferably a 19" or larger. I am looking at the following
>> couple, and wonder if anyone has any experience with them.
>> Planar PX191 19"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 1704FPV 17"
>> Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20"
>>
>> I'll take other suggestions as well. Please don't say to just get the
>> 20", as I need to get this "approved" by the wife as well. She's only
>> letting me shop like this due to the (very visible) problem with my CRT.
>>
>> A few notes and restrictions on whatever I get:
>> Must have DVI input. This is non-negotiable
>> I use my PC primarily for game playing, Half Life 2, Battlefield 1942,
>> etc, so a low response time is preferred.
>> I would like a true 24bit display, not 16bit dithered to 24.
>>
>> Any ideas?
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> Been using a Dell 2001FP for nearly a year now (wow already!). All I have
> to say it is the BEST monitor I have ever had. It has worked flawlessly
> for any game I throw at it at any resolution up to 1600x1200. With the
> 16ms response time there is absolutely zero video smearing. The 16ms
> essentially equates to around 60 fps, so even if there is "smearing" it
> won't be visible to the naked eye. It has four inputs, one DVI, one 15-pin
> VGA, one S-Video, and one composite. I have two PC's and my XBOX attached
> to it. It even has an add-on speaker that snaps to it too. It can also be
> rotated easily if you're into desktop publishing and need that feature.
>
> The good thing is that Dell usually has excellent deals on it too. I got
> mine for around $750 and had a $100 off coupon for buying a Dell a year
> earlier (Xmas gift for my sister and her family). So, keep a lookout for
> deals and it will be a purchase you won't regret.
>
Anonymous
January 3, 2005 8:49:32 PM

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:20:34 -0600, Jason Ash
<m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote:

>Jason Ash <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> waxed eloquent in
>news:Xns95C4BF905AB43jash7165wideopenwest@216.196.97.142:
>
>> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I
>> had
>> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the PCs,
>> and PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>>
>
>I also plan to try to use dual monitor until my current CRT up and quits.
>Due to desk space, I am unable to fit two CRTs on the desk, which is
>another reason for shopping for a LCD.

Jason:

ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256MB AGP retail (Cat4.12)
DV-I: Monitor #1 Samsung SyncMaster 213T Black 21.3" TFT
1600x1200 32bit 60Hz (native)
VGA: Monitor #2 ViewSonic P225f 22" Aperture Grille CRT
1600x1200 32bit 85Hz
WinXP HE SP2 clean slipstream
P4 2.8b/1GB PC1066 RIMMs
etc

I'm really pleased with the Samsung TFT.
I play bf1942+ add-ons, DC, DCX and Enhanced DC with all the eye-candy
maxed at native and it looks/plays great.
When the CRT goes, I will replace it with another TFT.
Samsung will be at the top of my shopping list.
They have a 19" model. Look it over and google some reviews.

Happy trails,
Anonymous
January 3, 2005 8:49:33 PM

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Fleabus <Xrflynn@sympatico.ca> waxed eloquent in
news:3fijt0d0qvsue8elm1pn0bmvimqdo71vdr@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:20:34 -0600, Jason Ash
> <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Jason Ash <m0ng0lh0rde@netscape.net> waxed eloquent in
>>news:Xns95C4BF905AB43jash7165wideopenwest@216.196.97.142:
>>
>>> Here's the deal. My current 19" CRT seems to be failing, since I
>>> had
>>> an overloaded circuit in my house blow (not the circuit with the
>>> PCs, and PC/monitor etc all on UPS, but problem started then)
>>>
>>
>>I also plan to try to use dual monitor until my current CRT up and
>>quits. Due to desk space, I am unable to fit two CRTs on the desk,
>>which is another reason for shopping for a LCD.
>
> Jason:
>
> ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256MB AGP retail (Cat4.12)
> DV-I: Monitor #1 Samsung SyncMaster 213T Black 21.3" TFT
> 1600x1200 32bit 60Hz (native)
> VGA: Monitor #2 ViewSonic P225f 22" Aperture Grille CRT
> 1600x1200 32bit 85Hz
> WinXP HE SP2 clean slipstream
> P4 2.8b/1GB PC1066 RIMMs
> etc
>
> I'm really pleased with the Samsung TFT.
> I play bf1942+ add-ons, DC, DCX and Enhanced DC with all the eye-candy
> maxed at native and it looks/plays great.
> When the CRT goes, I will replace it with another TFT.
> Samsung will be at the top of my shopping list.
> They have a 19" model. Look it over and google some reviews.
>
> Happy trails,
>
>

Well, the wife let me run up the Dell card, and get a refurbished 2001FP.

Thus far (about a weekend in), I'm quite happy with it. No stuck or dead
pixels, no bleed from the backlight.
I've played some games on it, BattleField1942, Desert Combat, Halo, Need
For Speed: Underground, and have not noticed any "shadows" or "blurring"
of the images.

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