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"J. Clarke" <jclarke@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Cliff wrote:
>
>>
>> "Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:f6eGd.86095$Xk.60795@pd7tw3no...
>>>> > TV Tuner is nice if you use it, but having it built into your video
>>>> > card
>>>> > is stupid. The usuability life of a Tuner card is a lot longer than a
>>>> > video card, so why toss it every time you upgrade?
>>>> >
>>>> > If you're shopping for a new Tuner card, be sure it has MPEG2
>>> compression
>>>> > in hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Why? MPEG2 is only one compression type and if it's in hardware you're
>>>> locked into the level at which the hardware was made, including any
>>>> bugs
>>> in
>>>> the hardware.
>>>
>>> Because Win MCE 2005 won't support anything without MPEG2 in hardware so
>>> most cards are going to go that way.
>>>
>>> Just because you have an encoder in hardware doesn't mean you can't use
>>> a
>>> software codec if you want.
>>>
>>>
>> have you ever tried to encode using software???? an average DVD takes
>> around 4 hours to decode in software(give or take a little)i've made
>> several.
>
> So? The hardware encoder on a video tuner board does not help you encode
> DVDs. And it certainly doesn't _de_code anything. It takes analog video
> in one end and gives you a compressed bytestream out the other end. It
> doesn't take a bytestream in one format in one end and emit one in another
> out the other end. For that you need a board purpose-made for encoding
> DVDs, and that board doesn't help you capture video.
>
>> i'm not sure about how long it takes with a hardware encoder but
>> i know it Wouldn't use 90% of my CPU effectively limiting what i can do
>> while it encodes.
>
> So you're saying that it's not possible to do anything else while you're
> recording video unless you have a hardware encoder on your capture board?
> What are you running, a 486?
>
> And what happens if you're not making DVDs, and need to encode in a format
> that the hardware encoder doesn't support?
"And it certainly doesn't _de_code anything."
My mistake that was a typo
And well if it isnt mpeg2 then i guess my ass would be using software or not
doing it at all(probably the latter).
I was referring to converting from xvid/divx to mpeg2. not recording from a
line in.(was under the imression that it would still encode..although now
that i think about it, it wouldnt)
it stated that it was going to take approximately 4 hours to complete, in
the end it only ended up taking around 3hrs.
And when it is encoding in software, it is running aprox. 95-98% using
Nero(others have way too many options to choose from)
As far as my specs:
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ @ 2189
ASUS A7S333
1Gb PC2700
Radeon 9800 Pro(BBATi)
120GB WD 8mb cache/40GB WD 2mb cache
and my weak little KWorld TVR-878
Cliff
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