master valve said: STOP PLAYING HL2 NOW!

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Shawk wrote:

> Yes. Been going on for a few hours. Some can, some can't. No idea
> what is causing it.

oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?

and no one has idea of what is causing it? oh what a shame... you valve
gamers being so knowledge its a such a disgrace what valve is doing to
you poor souls left all alone without hl2 to play with

listen to this all you steam lovers!!!!
this is the proof of what i've been telling all along!!!

you only play hl2 when MASTER VALVE lets you!!!
at this time the MASTER doesn't want to be disturbed, its resting, so
go out and do some walk in the park cause the time is for NO HL2!!!
all you loyal valve SERVANTS will do what you're told!!!

i now feel i'm having my revenge

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:18:11 -0000, "redTed" <redted@nthellworld.com>
wrote:


>
>Im starting to think that you are actually a pissed of warez kiddie with a
>grudge against any anti-piracy measures.
>


Starting ?
What took so long?

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David Seiver wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:06:41 +0000, difool
> <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
>
>>oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
>>so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?
>
>
> They are deprived of using something which they have paid for, and
> which should be available and able to be playable 100% of the time.
>

Just MP or what?

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you need steam to play a single player game ?

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"Chuck" wrote

> you need steam to play a single player game ?
>
You need the file content management system (in short Steam) to be running
in order to start any games from Valve which as based on the source engine

Oh am I glad that my hybernate functionality in XP is working so good, uhh
yeahh

- Peter

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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Seiver wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:06:41 +0000, difool
>> <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
>>>so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?
>>
>>
>> They are deprived of using something which they have paid for, and
>> which should be available and able to be playable 100% of the time.
>>
>
> Just MP or what?

As if that's an excuse.

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Schrodinger wrote:
>
> No, Walter, it was impossible to play single player, multiplayer, or
> anything normally accessed via Steam.

Impossible to play single player? It works fine all the time here. I just
never let Steam connect.

--
Paul

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It is playable at any time if you're not a knuckle-head. You only need to
have an off-line blob file saved on your hard drive. If you can't access
steam you simply start steam with the off-line blob file. It's not rocket
science for anybody with common sense.

DaveL


"David Seiver" <Nonya@bizniss.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:06:41 +0000, difool
> <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>
>>oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
>>so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?
>
> They are deprived of using something which they have paid for, and
> which should be available and able to be playable 100% of the time.
>

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:38:23 -0000, "redTed" <redted@nthellworld.com>
wrote:

>> you need steam to play a single player game ?
>>
>
>ffs.
>That's some rock you must have been under.
>

lol! Thanks for the chuckle. :-)

Erik

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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Seiver wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:06:41 +0000, difool
> > <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
> >>so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?
> >
> >
> > They are deprived of using something which they have paid for, and
> > which should be available and able to be playable 100% of the time.
> >
>
> Just MP or what?

Here's a link to Steam Forum where some additional info has been posted.

http://forums.steampowered.com/for [...] did=238449

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Schrodinger wrote:
> No, Walter, it was impossible to play single player, multiplayer, or
> anything normally accessed via Steam.

Single-player works fine, you muppet. Just coz some server's gone
belly-up on the other side of the world doesn't mean my PC will crash
in sympathy.

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, "Chuck" wrote:

> you need steam to play a single player game ?

and the answer is YES
isn't it the most unbelievable thing ever to happen in pc games?
i also didn't want to believe it and only when it came out in
the 13th of november did i have the proof about the insanely
impossible happening
hl2 single-player games requires steam a internet spy/monitor to
install and play
after this what should we do?
laugh out loud about how bizarre the situation is, or cry desperately
about how low pc games have reached

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"difool" wrote
> "Chuck" wrote:

>> you need steam to play a single player game ?

> and the answer is YES

Or more accurately - NO.

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:09:04 -0500, "Paul Fedorenko"
<pfedorenko@bite-me.look.ca> wrote:

>Um... Offline mode works perfectly fine on my machine... Just closed teh
>Steam client, unplugged my PC from my router, restarted the Steam client in
>Offline mode and played HL2 for an hour.

Don't you thin it's a little strange or unusual to have to unplug your
PC from the Internet to play offline ? Why doesn't Valve just add an
option not to connect ? Why ?

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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > Here's a link to Steam Forum where some additional info has been posted.
>
> you post the link but remain very quiet... right?
> you are like those brainwashed valve gamers who can only say "i forgive
> valve, for valve anything"
> so depressing reading that forum... only seeing gamers telling they don't
> mind cause its valve
> completely disgusting
> its really scary reading it
>

Sorry but I haven't played HL2 in awhile. So I can't say for a fact
what's up with Valve servers. However, this "sounds" like a definite Con
to add to the list of Steam Pros & Cons.

IMHO:

Scary is living in Iraq and wanting to vote.
Scary is seeing your wife collapse at work and being rushed off to the
hospital.
Scary is being on the top floors of the twin towers on 9/11.
Scary is being a fireman on 9/11 and asked to enter the towers.

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"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> failure to connect had disabled this feature. You really don't know what
> you are talking about with this issue. I wish you would check the
> steampowered forums.

Oh... and unplugging your ethernet connection (as I did before making my
first post), as should be fairly obvious to anyone with even the most
rudimentary understanding of PC networking, has roughly the same effect as
having a firewall block certain programs from accessing external resources.

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I must admit I was getting a little annoyed about the downtime but
mainly because I had a cs:source clan match coming up later that night.
Luckily however it was all fixed in time and we won our match.

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

> Heck! I can get all of this by drinking a six pack.

i'm always dead serious when it comes to steam
if you want to be humorous and make fun of it don't count on me

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difool wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Shawk wrote:
>
>
>>Yes. Been going on for a few hours. Some can, some can't. No idea
>>what is causing it.
>
>
> oh god! what a tragedy! a few hours without hl2!
> so tell us are you in lots of pain being deprived of your precious hl2?
>
> and no one has idea of what is causing it? oh what a shame... you valve
> gamers being so knowledge its a such a disgrace what valve is doing to
> you poor souls left all alone without hl2 to play with
>
> listen to this all you steam lovers!!!!
> this is the proof of what i've been telling all along!!!
>
> you only play hl2 when MASTER VALVE lets you!!!
> at this time the MASTER doesn't want to be disturbed, its resting, so
> go out and do some walk in the park cause the time is for NO HL2!!!
> all you loyal valve SERVANTS will do what you're told!!!
>
> i now feel i'm having my revenge
>
> --
> post made in a steam-free computer
> i said "NO" to valve and steam
>
> please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/nosteam/petition.html


"Captain, the turret fills with steam,
The feed-pipes burst below --
You can hear the hiss of the helpless ram,
You can hear the twisted runners jam."
And he answered, "Turn and go!"


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np: [winamp not running]

www.pdxshows.net

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riku wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:16:40 GMT, "OldDog" <OldDog@citypound.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I almost forgot.
>>
>> Last night my cable TV went out!!!! I couldn't watch any of my TV
>> shows. Can you believe it? I pay them a monthly fee and I expect
>> 24/7 content.
>
> Did that prevent you from inserting a DVD in your DVD player and watch
> it instead on your TV? No.
>
> Requiring online validation to play SINGLE-PLAYER game is comparable
> to having to connect to some validation servers online if you insert a
> DVD in your DVD player.
>
To be honest thats not a very good analogy really, he wasnt able to watch
the tv programs that were on at the time, ssure he could have watch a
different dvd but steam doesn't stop you playing another game

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Chadwick wrote:
> Stoned Monkey wrote:
>> riku wrote:
>>>
>>> Requiring online validation to play SINGLE-PLAYER game is comparable
>>> to having to connect to some validation servers online if you
>>> insert a DVD in your DVD player.
>>>
>> To be honest thats not a very good analogy really, he wasnt able to
>> watch the tv programs that were on at the time, ssure he could have
>> watch a
>
>> different dvd but steam doesn't stop you playing another game
> But he couldn't watch that particular DVD, so the analogy does hold.

sorry i misread i thought he was saying that he couldnt watch a dvd cause
th cable wasnt working
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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@bite-me.look.ca> wrote in message
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> > failure to connect had disabled this feature. You really don't know what
> > you are talking about with this issue. I wish you would check the
> > steampowered forums.
> Oh... and unplugging your ethernet connection (as I did before making my
> first post), as should be fairly obvious to anyone with even the most
> rudimentary understanding of PC networking, has roughly the same effect as
> having a firewall block certain programs from accessing external
resources.

Why would you unplug your network connection just to play one single player
game? If that's what you have to do to get Steam to play "offline"... lol...
why exactly do Steam / Valve fanatics defend this?

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"riku" <riku@invalid.none.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:16:40 GMT, "OldDog" <OldDog@citypound.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Oh, I almost forgot.
> >
> >Last night my cable TV went out!!!! I couldn't watch any of my TV
shows.
> >Can you believe it? I pay them a monthly fee and I expect 24/7
content.
>
> Did that prevent you from inserting a DVD in your DVD player and watch
> it instead on your TV? No.
>
> Requiring online validation to play SINGLE-PLAYER game is comparable
> to having to connect to some validation servers online if you insert a
> DVD in your DVD player.
>
> I don't know why this is still so hard for some of you to understand,
> or if you are just playing dumb on purpose.
>
> "Wheee, online games require you to connect to net, so this is why it
> is ok Steam single-player games do! It is exactly the same thing! It
> really is!"
>
>

I merely pointed out something similar with the shift from Rabbit ears to
cableTV. While millions of people have shifted from the benefits of Rabbit
ears, there comes a price for it. In another post, I also pointed out that
when I use to work, we were all connected to the LAN. And when it went
down, most of us were useless. Comes with the pros and cons.

So when my cableTV goes out, I can't watch "Desperate Housewifes". And
no, it's not on DVD yet. Plus how do you know that I have a DVD player or
VCR?

While I can't validate the recent glitch with Valve servers, it does sound
like an issue that needs to be address. Now that I think about it, what's
the worse that could happen in the year 2009 when we're all forced to use
Steam to play our pc games? The server goes down for 1min, 1hr, 10hrs,
1day, 1week, 1 month...?

Oh well. That's when we all walk away from our pc and go outside and talk
to our neighbors. Heck! I might have to rethink this whole Steam issue.

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OldDog wrote:
>
> So when my cableTV goes out, I can't watch "Desperate Housewifes".
And
> no, it's not on DVD yet. Plus how do you know that I have a DVD
player or
> VCR?
>

In this analagy, the DVD/Video player is your CD/DVD drive or your
harddrive. In other words, your ability to play single-plyer PC games.
The point is that if cable goes down you can still put a DVD in the
machine and watch the film in the same way that if the internet breaks
you can still play a single-player game on your PC.

Unless that single-player game/DVD film needs to access the outside
world before it will run.


> While I can't validate the recent glitch with Valve servers, it does
sound
> like an issue that needs to be address. Now that I think about it,
what's
> the worse that could happen in the year 2009 when we're all forced to
use
> Steam to play our pc games? The server goes down for 1min, 1hr,
10hrs,
> 1day, 1week, 1 month...?

The issue is that this shouldn't affect the single-player game. And if
off-line mode worked properly it wouldn't. Currently it seems the only
way to play the single-player game without Steam trying to validate
over the web is to to disable or disconnect your connection.

All Valve need to do to correct this is to fix the offline mode so it's
permanent. Some one else posted that in its first release, this was how
Steam worked and it was changed in a patch. If so, then I'm sure it
could be changed back with another patch.

>
> Oh well. That's when we all walk away from our pc and go outside
and talk
> to our neighbors. Heck! I might have to rethink this whole Steam
issue.

Yeah, there's always a silver lining!

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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:49:04 GMT, "OldDog" <OldDog@citypound.com>
wrote:

>While I can't validate the recent glitch with Valve servers, it does sound
>like an issue that needs to be address. Now that I think about it, what's

The point was that downtimes like these should not affect one's
ability to install and play single-player games. This is EXACTLY the
type of thing that I do not wish to become more commonplace in gaming.
Dependence on the availability and existence of the game company and
its services.

This is yet another thing making console gaming more lucrative. Well,
unless they also try to implement similar systems where you are
required to go online to validate your single-player games, but I
don't see that happening soon. 3DO owners can still play their 3DO
games even if the system is not supported anymore, same with Sega
Dreamcast users.

I think Indrema was supposed to be a gaming console that gets its
gaming content online, but it seems it is dying off even before the
release, and the investors don't believe in it anymore. Just like what
happened with the pay-per-view Circuit City DIVX movies.

>the worse that could happen in the year 2009 when we're all forced to use
>Steam to play our pc games? The server goes down for 1min, 1hr, 10hrs,
>1day, 1week, 1 month...?

Exactly.

>Oh well. That's when we all walk away from our pc and go outside and talk
>to our neighbors.

True, but it still does not make it right that you need an online
connection for single-player games. From end-user point of view, that
makes no sense whatsoever.