Radeon 7000 ( VE )

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It will be associated with the way you've setup your quad booting
arrangement. I bet if you try the card in a machine just running Windows
2000 or XP it will work fine. Its probably trying to load the Windows 98
driver under 2000 and XP - hence the problem. How do you have the partitions
setup?

Paul

"Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:S76dnbZX2cMCX5HfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
> I've got a 32 mb radeon 7000 that won't install with either win 2000 pro
> or XP pro. I'm quad booting along with win 98 and Linspire ( Lindows). The
> card works fine with 98 and lindows OS's. I've tried the earliest and
> latest ATI drivers for the 2000 and XP OS's and no luck. When either
> system boots I get a desktop that has segmented vertical lines. ie double
> desktop icons and system tray icons. Seems like it should be a driver
> problem but I'm totally confused by the behavior. I've tried various
> screen resolutions and refresh rates with no success Any clues greatly
> appreciated.

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And was the OS installed from the ground up (on a completely empty
partitionless drive) with the card already in the machine and all other HDDs
disconnected or removed? What happened (precisely) during the OS
installation procedure - i.e. where did it start to go wrong and what
screens were uncorrupted?

Paul

"Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for the reply.
> I've tried the installation with XP or 2000 on a separate HD (not dual
> boot ) with the same results.I had ATI tech support involved and they came
> to the conclusion of faulty memory.Something about the 32 bit OS's.
> Sounded like BS to me.
>
> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:420cd189$0$47684$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>> It will be associated with the way you've setup your quad booting
>> arrangement. I bet if you try the card in a machine just running Windows
>> 2000 or XP it will work fine. Its probably trying to load the Windows 98
>> driver under 2000 and XP - hence the problem. How do you have the
>> partitions setup?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:S76dnbZX2cMCX5HfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>>> I've got a 32 mb radeon 7000 that won't install with either win 2000 pro
>>> or XP pro. I'm quad booting along with win 98 and Linspire ( Lindows).
>>> The card works fine with 98 and lindows OS's. I've tried the earliest
>>> and latest ATI drivers for the 2000 and XP OS's and no luck. When either
>>> system boots I get a desktop that has segmented vertical lines. ie
>>> double desktop icons and system tray icons. Seems like it should be a
>>> driver problem but I'm totally confused by the behavior. I've tried
>>> various screen resolutions and refresh rates with no success Any clues
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>

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You mentioned that you'd tried XP as well. XP should have native drivers
built in for the 7000 VE card. I'm not sure if Win2K SP4 does but I suspect
not - did you try just installing the motherboard drivers and DirectX 9.0c
after the fresh install and see if the card was correctly detected natively?
You went on to install the VGA drivers - motherboard chipset drivers and
latest DirectX 9.0c need to be installed before even contemplating
installing VGA card drivers as the card needs them installed first. What
video related settings have you selected in your motherboards BIOS (e.g.
have you selected Assign IRQ to VGA and selected a suitable AGP Aperture
size as per here: http://www.ati.com/support/faq/cmosagp.html ) I'm not
aware of cards incorrectly displaying their ram amount unless an attempt has
been made to flash the wrong BIOS onto the card or the wrong drivers are
used - when it worked fine under Windows 98 did the ATI utility correctly
identify both the card and the amount of ram onboard it? Personally I
wouldn't use windows update for drivers as I've had it try to install older
drivers over the top of the latest, perfectly serviceable drivers for my
Intel NIC. Its much better to just download the latest Catalyst package
supported by your card from the ATI website - in the case of the Radeon
7000VE its the Catalyst 5.2 set for Win2k. here
http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html the (very old) ones you've attempted
to use aren't designed for Windows 2000 with SP4 so that might explain the
problems.

Paul

"Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E_udnQv_YOw-85LfRVn-gA@prairiewave.com...
> Paul,
> I just did a fresh install of win2k sp4.After the installation was
> complete I did a windows update and downloaded only the ATI driver. vers
> 5.13.1.6071.As soon as the driver installed on a reboot the problem
> resurfaced.I booted to safemode and uninstalled the driver and tried
> version 5.13.1.3102 which is one of the earliest drivers.That didn't work
> as I got a message that my hardware didn't match. I then tried 5.13.1.3276
> and system boots to a black screen. I can boot VGA mode fine though.BTW my
> BIOS and ATI's utility show the card as 16MB instead of 32. Thanks for
> your help.
> JB
> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:420d04fb$0$7946$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> And was the OS installed from the ground up (on a completely empty
>> partitionless drive) with the card already in the machine and all other
>> HDDs disconnected or removed? What happened (precisely) during the OS
>> installation procedure - i.e. where did it start to go wrong and what
>> screens were uncorrupted?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:I5CdnZLFvKrhQ5HfRVn-3Q@prairiewave.com...
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>> I've tried the installation with XP or 2000 on a separate HD (not dual
>>> boot ) with the same results.I had ATI tech support involved and they
>>> came to the conclusion of faulty memory.Something about the 32 bit OS's.
>>> Sounded like BS to me.
>>>
>>> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:420cd189$0$47684$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>>> It will be associated with the way you've setup your quad booting
>>>> arrangement. I bet if you try the card in a machine just running
>>>> Windows 2000 or XP it will work fine. Its probably trying to load the
>>>> Windows 98 driver under 2000 and XP - hence the problem. How do you
>>>> have the partitions setup?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:S76dnbZX2cMCX5HfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>>>>> I've got a 32 mb radeon 7000 that won't install with either win 2000
>>>>> pro or XP pro. I'm quad booting along with win 98 and Linspire (
>>>>> Lindows). The card works fine with 98 and lindows OS's. I've tried the
>>>>> earliest and latest ATI drivers for the 2000 and XP OS's and no luck.
>>>>> When either system boots I get a desktop that has segmented vertical
>>>>> lines. ie double desktop icons and system tray icons. Seems like it
>>>>> should be a driver problem but I'm totally confused by the behavior.
>>>>> I've tried various screen resolutions and refresh rates with no
>>>>> success Any clues greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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What about the motherboard chipset drivers/inf files - were they installed
before DirectX 9.0c? Do you have the correct monitor installed under the
OS.If the WinXP native drivers still give the problem (even with the
motherboard chipset drivers installed) then it may be time to contact your
hardware provider for the card. When you mentioned the behaviour is "the
same" - the same as which scenario (blank or corrupted screen)?

Paul
"Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U62dnQJvitRQvY3fRVn-gQ@prairiewave.com...
> Paul,
> I neglected to mention that I installed DirectX 9.0C first thing.I
> installed the latest 5.2 driver and no go with that either. XP does
> install a driver but the behavior is the same.It's hard to keep XP from
> installing drivers when i'm trying to troubleshoot the problem. I can
> access info with the messed up screens. Not very easy but I've changed
> refresh rates from 60 to 85 and also resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768
> and also color depth from 256 to 32 bit. I've also played with the
> hardware acceleration setting.I've tried bios settings for IRQ allowed and
> not. My apperature is set at 64.
>
> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:420fb57e$0$8207$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>> You mentioned that you'd tried XP as well. XP should have native drivers
>> built in for the 7000 VE card. I'm not sure if Win2K SP4 does but I
>> suspect not - did you try just installing the motherboard drivers and
>> DirectX 9.0c after the fresh install and see if the card was correctly
>> detected natively? You went on to install the VGA drivers - motherboard
>> chipset drivers and latest DirectX 9.0c need to be installed before even
>> contemplating installing VGA card drivers as the card needs them
>> installed first. What video related settings have you selected in your
>> motherboards BIOS (e.g. have you selected Assign IRQ to VGA and selected
>> a suitable AGP Aperture size as per here:
>> http://www.ati.com/support/faq/cmosagp.html ) I'm not aware of cards
>> incorrectly displaying their ram amount unless an attempt has been made
>> to flash the wrong BIOS onto the card or the wrong drivers are used -
>> when it worked fine under Windows 98 did the ATI utility correctly
>> identify both the card and the amount of ram onboard it? Personally I
>> wouldn't use windows update for drivers as I've had it try to install
>> older drivers over the top of the latest, perfectly serviceable drivers
>> for my Intel NIC. Its much better to just download the latest Catalyst
>> package supported by your card from the ATI website - in the case of the
>> Radeon 7000VE its the Catalyst 5.2 set for Win2k. here
>> http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html the (very old) ones you've
>> attempted to use aren't designed for Windows 2000 with SP4 so that might
>> explain the problems.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E_udnQv_YOw-85LfRVn-gA@prairiewave.com...
>>> Paul,
>>> I just did a fresh install of win2k sp4.After the installation was
>>> complete I did a windows update and downloaded only the ATI driver. vers
>>> 5.13.1.6071.As soon as the driver installed on a reboot the problem
>>> resurfaced.I booted to safemode and uninstalled the driver and tried
>>> version 5.13.1.3102 which is one of the earliest drivers.That didn't
>>> work as I got a message that my hardware didn't match. I then tried
>>> 5.13.1.3276 and system boots to a black screen. I can boot VGA mode fine
>>> though.BTW my BIOS and ATI's utility show the card as 16MB instead of
>>> 32. Thanks for your help.
>>> JB
>>> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:420d04fb$0$7946$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>>>> And was the OS installed from the ground up (on a completely empty
>>>> partitionless drive) with the card already in the machine and all other
>>>> HDDs disconnected or removed? What happened (precisely) during the OS
>>>> installation procedure - i.e. where did it start to go wrong and what
>>>> screens were uncorrupted?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:I5CdnZLFvKrhQ5HfRVn-3Q@prairiewave.com...
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>> I've tried the installation with XP or 2000 on a separate HD (not dual
>>>>> boot ) with the same results.I had ATI tech support involved and they
>>>>> came to the conclusion of faulty memory.Something about the 32 bit
>>>>> OS's. Sounded like BS to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:420cd189$0$47684$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>>>>>> It will be associated with the way you've setup your quad booting
>>>>>> arrangement. I bet if you try the card in a machine just running
>>>>>> Windows 2000 or XP it will work fine. Its probably trying to load the
>>>>>> Windows 98 driver under 2000 and XP - hence the problem. How do you
>>>>>> have the partitions setup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Red Stripe" <triputt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:S76dnbZX2cMCX5HfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>>>>>>> I've got a 32 mb radeon 7000 that won't install with either win 2000
>>>>>>> pro or XP pro. I'm quad booting along with win 98 and Linspire (
>>>>>>> Lindows). The card works fine with 98 and lindows OS's. I've tried
>>>>>>> the earliest and latest ATI drivers for the 2000 and XP OS's and no
>>>>>>> luck. When either system boots I get a desktop that has segmented
>>>>>>> vertical lines. ie double desktop icons and system tray icons. Seems
>>>>>>> like it should be a driver problem but I'm totally confused by the
>>>>>>> behavior. I've tried various screen resolutions and refresh rates
>>>>>>> with no success Any clues greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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