ATI 9700 Pro AIW dead after BIOS flash, HELP!

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I really did it this time...

So I was looking up new drivers for KOTOR2 on omega's site cause I heard
they handled KOTOR best. Well I also came across their collection of BIOS'.
I saw there was a newer one then mine and said 'screw it, ill upgrade'.
Well things didn't go as planned, I run the program as instructed, reboot,
and bam, no post, no nothing.

I figure either the command I entered "atiflash -p -f 0 9700.bin" wasn't
correct, or because I had an AIW and its for a regular card (didn't think of
it at the time).

And so here I am. What can I do? Since the machine won't post with a dead
card, I cannot blindly reflash it. I didn't back up my old BIOS (idiot),
where can I find one?

I have an idea of using a machine with onboard video, then running the
command, would that work, or would the onboard get flashed therefore
destroying another machine?

Any help PLEASE!
-Phil

 

[Guest]

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You could also use a bud;'s machine...make a dos boot floppy and put
the ati flasher and bios commands in an autoexec.bat file on the
floppy...that way you may be able to flash in the blind! <without a
pci card>

 

[augustus]

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> And so here I am. What can I do? Since the machine won't post with a
> dead card, I cannot blindly reflash it. I didn't back up my old BIOS
> (idiot), where can I find one?
>
> I have an idea of using a machine with onboard video, then running the
> command, would that work, or would the onboard get flashed therefore
> destroying another machine?
>
> Any help PLEASE!

You need to pick up or borrow a PCI video card to do this. Basically any
kind will do. The plain vanilla XP generic VGA driver will pick it up and
run it. Boot with the PCI and dead 9700 Pro card installed. Then reflash the
9700 Pro BIOS with the correct one. You can get this from here....
http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/

General rule: Don't flash any video card unless you have the ability to boot
from another non-AGP card restore the original BIOS, which you should have
on hand before you flash.

 

[Guest]

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Use a bud's machine or go to a library and download the correct BIOS (as
Augustus suggests) to a boot floppy ( format a floppy with the system
files). Then boot your machine from the floppy and flash the BIOS. Good luck
and *never* flash a BIOS for kicks <s>.
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Augustus" <augustus@wrtt.net> wrote in message
news:3RtPd.27859$K54.21007@edtnps84...
>> And so here I am. What can I do? Since the machine won't post with a
>> dead card, I cannot blindly reflash it. I didn't back up my old BIOS
>> (idiot), where can I find one?
>>
>> I have an idea of using a machine with onboard video, then running the
>> command, would that work, or would the onboard get flashed therefore
>> destroying another machine?
>>
>> Any help PLEASE!
>
> You need to pick up or borrow a PCI video card to do this. Basically any
> kind will do. The plain vanilla XP generic VGA driver will pick it up and
> run it. Boot with the PCI and dead 9700 Pro card installed. Then reflash
> the 9700 Pro BIOS with the correct one. You can get this from here....
> http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/
>
> General rule: Don't flash any video card unless you have the ability to
> boot from another non-AGP card restore the original BIOS, which you should
> have on hand before you flash.
>

 

[augustus]

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"Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Use a bud's machine or go to a library and download the correct BIOS (as
> Augustus suggests) to a boot floppy ( format a floppy with the system
> files). Then boot your machine from the floppy and flash the BIOS. Good
> luck and *never* flash a BIOS for kicks <s>.

No matter what he's still going to need a functioning video card in the
system to flash his non-functioning 9700 AIW card. So there's not much point
in using someone elses machine to get that BIOS. He can do it on his own
when he boots up with a PCI card.

 

[Guest]

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My bad - you're correct Augustus. Knee jerk response from a jerk ;-))
--
Tally Ho!
Ed
"Augustus" <augustus@wrtt.net> wrote in message
news:5KvPd.27911$K54.23950@edtnps84...
>
> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ROCdnQ69k9FwHpPfRVn-3g@giganews.com...
>> Use a bud's machine or go to a library and download the correct BIOS (as
>> Augustus suggests) to a boot floppy ( format a floppy with the system
>> files). Then boot your machine from the floppy and flash the BIOS. Good
>> luck and *never* flash a BIOS for kicks <s>.
>
> No matter what he's still going to need a functioning video card in the
> system to flash his non-functioning 9700 AIW card. So there's not much
> point in using someone elses machine to get that BIOS. He can do it on his
> own when he boots up with a PCI card.
>

 

[Guest]

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Thanks for the advice. I did some research and figured out that is exactly
what I needed to do.

I can get ahold of a PCI card tomorrow and I used that exact site to dig up
2 BIOS' to try. Im not sure which one to use, I'll have to look up what
speed these ram chips are.

On a side note, would using an onboard video card instead of the PCI card
work? Just theoretically.
-Phil
"Augustus" <augustus@wrtt.net> wrote in message
news:3RtPd.27859$K54.21007@edtnps84...
>> And so here I am. What can I do? Since the machine won't post with a
>> dead card, I cannot blindly reflash it. I didn't back up my old BIOS
>> (idiot), where can I find one?
>>
>> I have an idea of using a machine with onboard video, then running the
>> command, would that work, or would the onboard get flashed therefore
>> destroying another machine?
>>
>> Any help PLEASE!
>
> You need to pick up or borrow a PCI video card to do this. Basically any
> kind will do. The plain vanilla XP generic VGA driver will pick it up and
> run it. Boot with the PCI and dead 9700 Pro card installed. Then reflash
> the 9700 Pro BIOS with the correct one. You can get this from here....
> http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/
>
> General rule: Don't flash any video card unless you have the ability to
> boot from another non-AGP card restore the original BIOS, which you should
> have on hand before you flash.
>

 

[Guest]

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That would work except I honestly don't think most machines will post with a
dead card. I know mine doesn't.
<Heywood> wrote in message
news:0iat011v5ql1pi76fiuivds1g92qlhfecd@4ax.com...
> You could also use a bud;'s machine...make a dos boot floppy and put
> the ati flasher and bios commands in an autoexec.bat file on the
> floppy...that way you may be able to flash in the blind! <without a
> pci card>

 

[augustus]

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"Philburg2" <philburg2@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the advice. I did some research and figured out that is
> exactly what I needed to do.
>
> I can get ahold of a PCI card tomorrow and I used that exact site to dig
> up 2 BIOS' to try. Im not sure which one to use, I'll have to look up
> what speed these ram chips are.
>
> On a side note, would using an onboard video card instead of the PCI card
> work? Just theoretically.

With onboard AGP enabled in the BIOS, most m/b's will not see the AGP card
at all, resources are not allocated.

 

[Guest]

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You are probably correct, most will not even post without live
video...had a mental lapse!!! I had used the "trick in conjunction
with an MSI MB whose Bios AND video bios were bad (I suspect the owner
was fooling around) I used the emergency Bios recover feature in
conjunction with the autoexec trick (both on the floppy) and got
lucky!

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:18:48 GMT, "Philburg2"
<philburg2@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>That would work except I honestly don't think most machines will post with a
>dead card. I know mine doesn't.
><Heywood> wrote in message
>news:0iat011v5ql1pi76fiuivds1g92qlhfecd@4ax.com...
>> You could also use a bud;'s machine...make a dos boot floppy and put
>> the ati flasher and bios commands in an autoexec.bat file on the
>> floppy...that way you may be able to flash in the blind! <without a
>> pci card>
>