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Every now and then, and it seems only when im playing games that my computer will lock up giving me a blue screen. In max payne their was no problem that i recall, i beat it without 1 crash.

Diablo2 is a differant story, it crashes frequently, sometimes to the desktop and sometimes its the vid card (luckily my radeon9800xt reboots itself and keeps going) and sometimes the screen just turns blue and reboots (not a windows blue screen)

Im thinking it could be a heat problem. Its most likely not cpu heat but im not ruling that out. I got a stock AMD cooler on the chip with arctic silver3 thermal compound. My case has 2 fans, one on the bottom blowing in and one blelow the power supply, blowing in.

I seriously doubt it is ram because i have ran memtest86 letting it do about 50 passes without even 1 error popping up.

Here is my system specs
Asus a7v133 (VIA KT133A chipset)
AthlonXP 1700
512mb pc133memory
Radeon 9800XT (2 monitors connected)
2x western digital 300BB hard drives (raid0)
Soundblaster Audigy Gamer
ATI TV Wonder
Realtek 10/100 nic connected to RR cable modem
Yamaha CDW-F1E
Pioneer DVD ROM

My comp also crashes in warcraft3 sometimes... seems to be only blizzard games i guess.

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Sounds like PSU. What's yours?



Dazzle them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with BS! :wink:

Reply to RCPilot

lol you have an XT but your have pc133 memory!!!!!


J/K yeah sounds like a psu prob man.


-={Apostalic Alcoholic.}=-

Reply to mrface

Man, I didn't catch the RAM! [oops]



Dazzle them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with BS! :wink:

Reply to RCPilot

its a crap power supply

Reply to MajinChewY

DIE NEWBIE DIE!!! MAY YOUR VIDEO CARD BE CURSED WITH THE ANGST OF 10,000 REBOOTS!!!!

It's all Bush's fault...all of it...

Reply to Grub

The vid card driver issue killing monitors is BS man, my monitor and vid card are alive after a month of gaming with the latest drivers.

Reply to MajinChewY

Heh, I don't think that's what he was talking about.

That's just the standard Grub greeting, too, btw.

<font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>

Reply to Auburn9698

I wanted to play my doom3 and halflife2 betas, and the coupon for Halflife2 helped my decision. I only had a GeForce2 MX and that could hardly run UT2k3. I also only have pc133 memory so the more textures that fit in the video ram the better. Financialy the reason i got it was because i got a 2000 dollar grant to go to school and had 1 grand left over. It was either buy clothes and food, and baiscly i dont mind 1$ burgers and 2 year old sneakers.

BTW my powersupply is POWMAX 350watt, and i think i figured out the problem, a motherboard fan quit working.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by MajinChewY on 11/14/03 00:33 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to MajinChewY

These morons!! I don't know why half of them get out of bed in the morning they have the intelligence of Goldfish in brackish water. The other half would like to think they actually know something about computers when in fact if some one actually sat down with them and showed them how one really works they would unfortunately nod off and go to sleep because they were born without a brain, and would likely forget what they were shown 45 minutes later or when the beer wears off.

The Blue screens you are talking about are caused by many problems. the first one apparent is the nice advanced graphics card you own. It is too advanced for your current RAM/Memory chips you would have better luck with a motherboard that supports 333MHz memory in the BIOS and a CPU that does the same to match your good quality graphics card.
Their is very little difference between what Nvidia and ATI offer the public now for graphics performance.
In the real world different games work differently in different computers. In fact I know from many years playing games that the guys that get to elite status in a online game were just lucky enough that the computer they are playing the game on likes the software title as much as they do. I have seen IBM computers spit out game titles on the floor and simply refuse to run them.

The other thing you talked about was a heat problem and that is always the case with computers. If you have a side panel you can remove try that and see if the computer cools enough that it does not blue screen any more. Some computer users like to add cooling fans to their computers but if it is not done correctly what they end up with is a HEAT-DAM inside the computer case. A heat dam is where stale air, heated air gets trapped in the case and is not released.

Removing the cover on a P.C for a few days to see if the overheating or even shut down or restarting problems goes away is the easiest way to figure out IF you had a heat problem. If the P.C is behind a door or in a cubby-hole remove it from the hole into an open area as well.
Another symptom of BLUE screens with graphics cards is if they have been forced into an overclock using overclock programs or even in the cards control panels. Later after the card has been used for long periods overclocked then set back to default factory settings they will have this problem.
I use a Nvidia Ti 4200 graphics card and it is overclocked in Windows XP pro I have used it this way for some time and at a 100 MHZ Monitor refresh rate.

Last week I installed a used hard drive reformatted it and installed Windows 98 because I had an old DOS game I wanted to play online and XP would not let me stay connected.
Well the entire install was perfect no problems until I installed the WIN 98 drivers for the graphics card right off the manufacturers CD then the computer would correctly restart but not go to the Win 98 desktop.
The card had been run so long at higher values and with Win XP drivers that it would not go back to a Win 98 driver set-up nor could win 98 handle my 8X's AGP buss on the motherboard.
A sign then that a card that is blue screening is generally a sign that it was once overclocked and sold second hand friend to friend or that the computer system motherboard and CPU cannot keep up with the new graphics card in some instances in different games.

If you do not have a heat problem I recommend changing the motherboard and memory as well as the CPU....BUT you could try this if the ATI drivers options let you adjust the clock speed and memory speeds for the card. Try to up the Engine and memory speeds say 10 to 20 higher then it already is that might force the card back to a familiar overclock setting and settle things down a bit.

»§øÐ«Ñighthåwk™ Don't get mad at the player get mad at the game. Hackers drool and Skill's rule.

Reply to SoDNighthawk

Got some nerve haven't you? You show up in here for the first time and start slagging everyone off before you've even begun to get to know anybody. Well, here's a newsflash, YOU are the moron. Some people are stupid, but you just abuse the privilege.

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. You are a waste of oxygen, so do the world a favour, go play in the traffic. Donut.

<font color=blue>"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" - George Best</font color=blue>

Reply to RobD

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Some people are stupid, but you just abuse the privilege.



haha nice one i gotta remember that

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Reply to phial

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These morons!! I don't know why half of them get out of bed in the morning they have the intelligence of Goldfish in brackish water.




who the fvck are you. you come here making assumptions about the way people are replying but it is simply that, an assumption. your doing the very thing you accuse of so go stick your thumb up your ass and try to look at the whole picture

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Reply to phial

heh your card is stil gonna perfomr like mine with that ram.


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Reply to mrface

My favorite lines....

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It is too advanced for your current RAM/Memory chips


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The card had been run so long at higher values and with Win XP drivers that it would not go back to a Win 98 driver set-up


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A sign then that a card that is blue screening is generally a sign that it was once overclocked and sold second hand friend to friend





and by far the best lines...

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If you do not have a heat problem <b>I recommend changing the motherboard and memory as well as the CPU</b>....BUT you could try this if the ATI drivers options let you adjust the clock speed and memory speeds for the card. Try to up the Engine and memory speeds say 10 to 20 higher then it already is that might <b>force the card back to a familiar overclock setting</b> and settle things down a bit.



That is some of the worst troublshooting I have ever seen...

It's all Bush's fault...all of it...

Reply to Grub

I think the word "prick" sums it all up rather nicely.

<font color=blue>"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" - George Best</font color=blue>

Reply to RobD

I found a bit of humor in that, myself. <i>My</i> favorite line, though, is the sig:

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Hackers drool and Skill's rule.


That's a freakin' riot. The only place I can remember hearing something like that is from some of my friend's <i>4- or 5-year old daughters</i>, who say, "Girls rule, boys drool."

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Reply to Auburn9698

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The Blue screens you are talking about are caused by many problems. the first one apparent is the nice advanced graphics card you own. It is too advanced for your current RAM/Memory chips you would have better luck with a motherboard that supports 333MHz memory in the BIOS and a CPU that does the same to match your good quality graphics card.
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LOL the card is to advanced for my system... thats why my geforce2 did it also ehh. Sounds like faulty logic from a a retard who thinks he knows it all.
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The card had been run so long at higher values and with Win XP drivers that it would not go back to a Win 98 driver set-up nor could win 98 handle my 8X's AGP buss on the motherboard.
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your a retard

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If you do not have a heat problem I recommend changing the motherboard and memory as well as the CPU....BUT you could try this if the ATI drivers options let you adjust the clock speed and memory speeds for the card. Try to up the Engine and memory speeds say 10 to 20 higher then it already is that might force the card back to a familiar overclock setting and settle things down a bit.
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Like i said your a retard, but if i did follow your logic you would be wrong anyway, because I bought the card the day it came out, retail box, so it has never been overclocked.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by MajinChewY on 11/14/03 02:56 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to MajinChewY

Ahhhh...Now its unanimous....BTW I just bought a 9600 pro and have had the same problems with it. I know that they're different cards and all that, but I found that it was a heat issue...even though my previous card ran much hotter and without problems. I eventually had to remove the side cover and all problems were solved. I guess I need better case cooling.

It's all Bush's fault...all of it...

Reply to Grub

> »§øÐ«Ñighthåwk™

^ Everyone note this.

Is there really any further need to note his incompetance and ignorance? He's publically putting it on everything he posts, just ignore him as a m4d l33t 5cr1p7 k1dd13!!!1!

Lets see, when was the last time using highascii/leetspeak "cool" for anyone over 13? Bout 91-92? Maybe I'm being generous, it may have never been cool for anyone over 13.

Shadus

Reply to shadus

Now having said what I did in my last post its time to talk to MajinChewY...

BOY WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!?

A 9800XT with a 1700+? WTF? PC133 Memory DOUBLE WTF? 30gb 2MB Cache hard disks?! A *CRAP* via chipset for an axp?! WTF.

*Kicks MajinChewY in the shin*

WHAT THE BLOODY HELL WERE YOU THINKING MAN?! Your video card is worth more than I'd pay for the rest of that system combined.

Good god you've castrated that poor card. You're making it run at a fraction of it's potential. The poor little innocent thing. [/comfort 9800XT]

You should feel ashamed putting a high end card like that in ... in ... that monstrosity.

SHAME! SHAME! BAD MAJINCHEWY! BAD!

If you haven't installed the 4 in 1s, goto via's site and download the newest 4 in 1 drivers and install them.

and... FOR SHAME!

You should donate that card to a worthy home like mine where it would get to run wild and free.

Shadus

Reply to shadus
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