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Anonymous
June 30, 2005 7:37:02 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

After setting up a system running Windows XP Pro with the user set to be a
member of the Administrators group, that spontaneously changes so the user is
a member of the "Debugger Users" group. I wonder if anyone else has come
across this, and if he knows why it occurs. It isn't generally a problem,
but it does cause some problems at times with some of the software we use
which requires the user be an Administrator. I think it gets changed when
running windows updates, but I'm not sure. I would like to be able to set a
user as an administrator and have that remain the setting, without wondering
how long that will remain in effect.

Thanks for any insight.
Anonymous
June 30, 2005 2:16:41 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

A user can be a member of multiple groups (Administrators, Debugger Users, Remote Desktop Users). Users are added to the Debuggers group when Visual Studio and other applications that use the debugging tools are installed. For XP Pro, use LUSRMGR.MSC to view the users and the groups they belong to. You should see that these users are still Administrators, as well as being members of the Debugger Users group.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
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"Valacho" <Valacho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:980DEAF0-652D-4CC2-AB39-55E77871E146@microsoft.com...
> After setting up a system running Windows XP Pro with the user set to be a
> member of the Administrators group, that spontaneously changes so the user is
> a member of the "Debugger Users" group. I wonder if anyone else has come
> across this, and if he knows why it occurs. It isn't generally a problem,
> but it does cause some problems at times with some of the software we use
> which requires the user be an Administrator. I think it gets changed when
> running windows updates, but I'm not sure. I would like to be able to set a
> user as an administrator and have that remain the setting, without wondering
> how long that will remain in effect.
>
> Thanks for any insight.
Anonymous
June 30, 2005 2:16:42 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

Ah, thank you. I wonder why in some instances I have to make sure
"Administrators" is the option showing in the group membership drop-down as
"Other" for software to work correctly. It's not a terribly big deal, I just
have to remember to check that when something isn't working like it ought.

Thanks for the response!

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

> A user can be a member of multiple groups (Administrators, Debugger Users, Remote Desktop Users). Users are added to the Debuggers group when Visual Studio and other applications that use the debugging tools are installed. For XP Pro, use LUSRMGR.MSC to view the users and the groups they belong to. You should see that these users are still Administrators, as well as being members of the Debugger Users group.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "Valacho" <Valacho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:980DEAF0-652D-4CC2-AB39-55E77871E146@microsoft.com...
> > After setting up a system running Windows XP Pro with the user set to be a
> > member of the Administrators group, that spontaneously changes so the user is
> > a member of the "Debugger Users" group. I wonder if anyone else has come
> > across this, and if he knows why it occurs. It isn't generally a problem,
> > but it does cause some problems at times with some of the software we use
> > which requires the user be an Administrator. I think it gets changed when
> > running windows updates, but I'm not sure. I would like to be able to set a
> > user as an administrator and have that remain the setting, without wondering
> > how long that will remain in effect.
> >
> > Thanks for any insight.
>
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Anonymous
July 1, 2005 11:15:34 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

Use LUSRMGR.MSC, not CONTROL USERPASSWORDS2 to check the group membership. You'll get all the groups, not just the one that appears in the drop down. :-)

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Valacho" <Valacho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C6FD1CF5-750A-44D6-AAD5-48606DAA58EF@microsoft.com...
> Ah, thank you. I wonder why in some instances I have to make sure
> "Administrators" is the option showing in the group membership drop-down as
> "Other" for software to work correctly. It's not a terribly big deal, I just
> have to remember to check that when something isn't working like it ought.
>
> Thanks for the response!
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> A user can be a member of multiple groups (Administrators, Debugger Users, Remote Desktop Users). Users are added to the Debuggers group when Visual Studio and other applications that use the debugging tools are installed. For XP Pro, use LUSRMGR.MSC to view the users and the groups they belong to. You should see that these users are still Administrators, as well as being members of the Debugger Users group.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "Valacho" <Valacho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:980DEAF0-652D-4CC2-AB39-55E77871E146@microsoft.com...
>> > After setting up a system running Windows XP Pro with the user set to be a
>> > member of the Administrators group, that spontaneously changes so the user is
>> > a member of the "Debugger Users" group. I wonder if anyone else has come
>> > across this, and if he knows why it occurs. It isn't generally a problem,
>> > but it does cause some problems at times with some of the software we use
>> > which requires the user be an Administrator. I think it gets changed when
>> > running windows updates, but I'm not sure. I would like to be able to set a
>> > user as an administrator and have that remain the setting, without wondering
>> > how long that will remain in effect.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any insight.
>>
July 18, 2005 2:29:05 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

Valacho is correct. It has nothing to do with how many groups the local user
is a member of, it matters what group shows when you look at the main users
window when opening the Users control panel object.

I have the same problem as he does and machines just randomly change to
"Debugger Users" as the default group showing in the Users Control panel
object for the Domain user and even local administrator.

Any ideas what causes this and how to prevent it?

-Jason

"Valacho" wrote:

> Ah, thank you. I wonder why in some instances I have to make sure
> "Administrators" is the option showing in the group membership drop-down as
> "Other" for software to work correctly. It's not a terribly big deal, I just
> have to remember to check that when something isn't working like it ought.
>
> Thanks for the response!
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
> > A user can be a member of multiple groups (Administrators, Debugger Users, Remote Desktop Users). Users are added to the Debuggers group when Visual Studio and other applications that use the debugging tools are installed. For XP Pro, use LUSRMGR.MSC to view the users and the groups they belong to. You should see that these users are still Administrators, as well as being members of the Debugger Users group.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Valacho" <Valacho@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:980DEAF0-652D-4CC2-AB39-55E77871E146@microsoft.com...
> > > After setting up a system running Windows XP Pro with the user set to be a
> > > member of the Administrators group, that spontaneously changes so the user is
> > > a member of the "Debugger Users" group. I wonder if anyone else has come
> > > across this, and if he knows why it occurs. It isn't generally a problem,
> > > but it does cause some problems at times with some of the software we use
> > > which requires the user be an Administrator. I think it gets changed when
> > > running windows updates, but I'm not sure. I would like to be able to set a
> > > user as an administrator and have that remain the setting, without wondering
> > > how long that will remain in effect.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any insight.
> >
!