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In news:11246E07-A627-4CBC-85F0-6765D8EB7824@microsoft.com,
Truls Hjelle <TrulsHjelle@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to say:
My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
> "Galen" wrote:
>
>> In news:66C82A2E-E90F-4FD3-8C77-F7EB4C737883@microsoft.com,
>> Truls Hjelle <TrulsHjelle@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to say:
>>
>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>
>>> My reply is at the bottom.
>>>
>>> "Galen" wrote:
>>>
>>>> In news:02B388DD-D4CA-4CBB-939C-A4F11D92BE74@microsoft.com,
>>>> Truls Hjelle <TrulsHjelle@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to
>>>> say:
>>>>
>>>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>>>
>>>>> Every time I reboot my PC (XP with all patches) Microsoft
>>>>> Antispyware advises me to disable NETBIOS Messenger. Every time I
>>>>> click YES PLEASE DISABLE IT, but next time I reboot, there it is
>>>>> again. Isn't it possible to kill that bastard forever? It does
>>>>> not seem that DISABLE sticks. When I reboot it is again
>>>>> AUTOMATIC. How come?
>>>>
>>>> ALL patches? You have SP2? As you were told in the other message
>>>> there's a specific group for MSAS. Keep in mind that it is a beta
>>>> product but here's what I'd check...
>>>>
>>>> Start > Run > "services.msc" (without the quotes) > find
>>>> "Messenger" service > right click > disable it... Install SP2 as
>>>> it will be turned off by default. Use a firewall because just
>>>> turning off the service doesn't mean the hole has been closed, it
>>>> only means that you won't see it which is far worse than a hole
>>>> that you do see and thus monitor.
>>>>
>>>> You mention that you have all the patches which implies that you're
>>>> using service pack two and it should be disabled automatically
>>>> unless you, another person, or an application enabled it again.
>>>> Assuming you didn't enable it as you'd then probably know what it
>>>> was you're poking about with or you probably shouldn't press those
>>>> buttons then it's obviously someone/something else that has enabled
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Galen
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> "But there are always some lunatics about. It would be a dull world
>>>> without them."
>>>>
>>>> Sherlock Holmes
>>>
>>> Messenger is disabled. SP2 is in place. I use ZoneAlarm in stead
>>> of the Windows Firewall. When I go to Windows Update there are
>>> absolutely no patches to install (not even optional). Yet, when I
>>> reboot, Microsoft Antispyware asks me to disable "NETBIOS
>>> Messenger". If I answer NO to its suggestion, Messenger is
>>> Automatic. If I answer YES, it is disabled. Yet the whole process
>>> repeats itself.
>>>
>>>> o) Truls
>>
>>
>> Sounds indeed like you have a bug. <g> Oddly they are called bugs
>> because bugs used to get into the large computers (not so much an
>> issue now) and really mess up the works or so I have been told from
>> a fairly reliable source. Jerry's response contained a link for the
>> MSAS newsgroups where I am afraid you'll have to take this then if
>> it's going to keep asking you over and over again. My only other
>> suggestion would be to kick it at this point and somehow I don't
>> think that would help. In case it's not available for you to view:
>>
>> <canned answer>
>>
>> For future reference there have been newsgroups setup specifically
>> for the Microsoft Anti-Spyware beta:
>>
>>
>> Support for Beta of Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware
>>
>> At this time, support for the beta version of Microsoft Windows
>> AntiSpyware is being provided through the following Microsoft
>> newsgroups:
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.announcements
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.general
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.networking
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.signatures
>> - microsoft.private.security.spyware.onlinecommunity
>>
>> These newsgroups can be accessed via NNTP or HTTP.
>>
>> To access these newsgroups using HTTP, please go to the following
>> location:
>> http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?
>> ICP=spyware&sLCID=us
>>
>> To access these newsgroups using NNTP, please use the following
>> information for your NNTP client (such as Microsoft Outlook Express):
>> - NNTP Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
>> - Account name: privatenews\spyware
>> - Password: spyware
>>
>> NOTE: No password will be required via the HTTP link
>>
>> </can>
>>
>> I can't help you beyond that. I have no idea why it would pop up
>> unless it's enabled though it might have something to do with
>> another one of your applications though I can't think of what that
>> might be other than perhaps a networking application of sorts.
>>
>> Galen
>> --
>>
>> "But there are always some lunatics about. It would be a dull world
>> without them."
>>
>> Sherlock Holmes
>
> Hi Galen!
>
> Do you know what Galen means in Norwegian? In means madman (ha ha).
>
> I just remebered something that may have bearing on this problem.
>
> A few weeks ago the IT department in my company installed Symatec
> Antivirus on my PC. Previously we used F-Secure. Do you know if
> Symantec Antivirus
> turns on
> the NETBIOS Messenger?
>
>> o) Truls
No, I can't imagine that it does but now that I know you're in a company
environment perhaps there's a utility installed on your computer by your IT
department that allows IT Admins to send you messeges and functions like the
messenger service. That might be the cause. If it's a legitimate program and
not the service itself then it should be filed as a bug in the appropriate
newsgroups probably. As for the name Galen meaning madman I'd been told that
quite some time back but had actually forgotten about that so thanks for
reminding me.
Galen
--
"But there are always some lunatics about. It would be a dull world
without them."
Sherlock Holmes
) Truls
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