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May 4, 2005 9:07:03 PM

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I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.

If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
experience?

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Anonymous
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May 5, 2005 2:52:28 AM

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"Bruno" <Bruno@Bergencounty.com> wrote in message
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> I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
> switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
> monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
> the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
> hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
> dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
> but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.
>
> If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
> experience?


Just relaying my own experience, even though it seems different than
yours...

I don't know if this will help you since I have not used that model, but
when I first switched to LCD's not that long ago, there was a bit of a
transition period that my eyes went through for the first few days of moving
from a CRT to an LCD. At first, LCD's seemed way too bright for me and I
found myself turning the brightness and contrast way down in hopes of
matching the brightness of my CRT's. After trying that for a little bit, it
seemed to me that my eyes were somewhat strained from trying to match the
brightness and contrast. I then went in the other direction and made my
LCD's brighter than I've ever used on a CRT. It did take a little getting
used to at first, but after that, it's been very good. However, seeing that
you have your Samsung set to 50% brightness, I would assume it's already way
brighter than your old CRT. Maybe try lowering it. I guess everyone has
different eyes. :-)

This might be a bit of a long shot, but I have to wonder if the response
time of your LCD might be a bit of an issue. The LCD that I'm using on my
Internet computer here is a 15" model with a 25ms response time and analog
plug only. Even when scrolling text on the screen, I can see slight
ghosting. It's not really an issue for me, but it could be for you. My
other LCD on my main computer is a 16ms 17" model with a DVI connection and
it's definitely an improvement. That's not to say that my 25ms LCD is bad
by any means, but I know that large LCD's like what you have are almost
impossible to get with response times of 25ms (at least to my current
knowledge).

I wear glasses and have a fairly strong prescription. Without my glasses, I
suffer from pretty bad astigmatism, along with near-sightedness. Reading a
monitor or newspaper from more than 10 or 12 inches away from my face is
practically impossible for me without my glasses.
May 5, 2005 9:42:21 PM

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"NightSky 421" <nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:117j9kep6s9gk46@corp.supernews.com...
> "Bruno" <Bruno@Bergencounty.com> wrote in message
> news:a70i7154f2i9pin1dvhjfm6m66t88vigtq@4ax.com...
>> I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
>> switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
>> monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
>> the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
>> hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
>> dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
>> but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.
>>
>> If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
>> experience?
>
>
> Just relaying my own experience, even though it seems different than
> yours...
>
> I don't know if this will help you since I have not used that model, but
> when I first switched to LCD's not that long ago, there was a bit of a
> transition period that my eyes went through for the first few days of
> moving
> from a CRT to an LCD. At first, LCD's seemed way too bright for me and I
> found myself turning the brightness and contrast way down in hopes of
> matching the brightness of my CRT's. After trying that for a little bit,
> it
> seemed to me that my eyes were somewhat strained from trying to match the
> brightness and contrast. I then went in the other direction and made my
> LCD's brighter than I've ever used on a CRT. It did take a little getting
> used to at first, but after that, it's been very good. However, seeing
> that
> you have your Samsung set to 50% brightness, I would assume it's already
> way
> brighter than your old CRT. Maybe try lowering it. I guess everyone has
> different eyes. :-)
>
> This might be a bit of a long shot, but I have to wonder if the response
> time of your LCD might be a bit of an issue. The LCD that I'm using on my
> Internet computer here is a 15" model with a 25ms response time and analog
> plug only. Even when scrolling text on the screen, I can see slight
> ghosting. It's not really an issue for me, but it could be for you. My
> other LCD on my main computer is a 16ms 17" model with a DVI connection
> and
> it's definitely an improvement. That's not to say that my 25ms LCD is bad
> by any means, but I know that large LCD's like what you have are almost
> impossible to get with response times of 25ms (at least to my current
> knowledge).
>
> I wear glasses and have a fairly strong prescription. Without my glasses,
> I
> suffer from pretty bad astigmatism, along with near-sightedness. Reading
> a
> monitor or newspaper from more than 10 or 12 inches away from my face is
> practically impossible for me without my glasses.
>

It might be worth you trying Powerstrip... I found this a really great util
when I first got a LCD display. Give it a go, it allows you to easily set
up the monitor to how you want it.....
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download718.html
Related resources
Anonymous
a b Ô Samsung
May 7, 2005 2:55:23 PM

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"NightSky 421" <nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> "Bruno" <Bruno@Bergencounty.com> wrote in message
> news:a70i7154f2i9pin1dvhjfm6m66t88vigtq@4ax.com...
>> I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
>> switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
>> monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
>> the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
>> hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
>> dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
>> but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.
>>
>> If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
>> experience?
>
>
> Just relaying my own experience, even though it seems different than
> yours...
>
> I don't know if this will help you since I have not used that model, but
> when I first switched to LCD's not that long ago, there was a bit of a
> transition period that my eyes went through for the first few days of
> moving
> from a CRT to an LCD. At first, LCD's seemed way too bright for me and I
> found myself turning the brightness and contrast way down in hopes of
> matching the brightness of my CRT's. After trying that for a little bit,
> it
> seemed to me that my eyes were somewhat strained from trying to match the
> brightness and contrast. I then went in the other direction and made my
> LCD's brighter than I've ever used on a CRT. It did take a little getting
> used to at first, but after that, it's been very good. However, seeing
> that
> you have your Samsung set to 50% brightness, I would assume it's already
> way
> brighter than your old CRT. Maybe try lowering it. I guess everyone has
> different eyes. :-)
>
> This might be a bit of a long shot, but I have to wonder if the response
> time of your LCD might be a bit of an issue. The LCD that I'm using on my
> Internet computer here is a 15" model with a 25ms response time and analog
> plug only. Even when scrolling text on the screen, I can see slight
> ghosting. It's not really an issue for me, but it could be for you. My
> other LCD on my main computer is a 16ms 17" model with a DVI connection
> and
> it's definitely an improvement. That's not to say that my 25ms LCD is bad
> by any means, but I know that large LCD's like what you have are almost
> impossible to get with response times of 25ms (at least to my current
> knowledge).
>
> I wear glasses and have a fairly strong prescription. Without my glasses,
> I
> suffer from pretty bad astigmatism, along with near-sightedness. Reading
> a
> monitor or newspaper from more than 10 or 12 inches away from my face is
> practically impossible for me without my glasses.
>
>

Yes. I feel 16ms is the magic number (equates to about 60 fps), and on my
Dell 2001FP I see no ghosting whatsoever. I went from a strong glasses
prescription to laser eye surgery about the same time I got this monitor,
but it seems I am fine with it. I agree about the brightness, however.
May 9, 2005 12:33:44 AM

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"NightSky 421" <nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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"Bruno" <Bruno@Bergencounty.com> wrote in message
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> I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
> switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
> monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
> the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
> hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
> dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
> but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.
>
> If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
> experience?


Just relaying my own experience, even though it seems different than
yours...

I don't know if this will help you since I have not used that model, but
when I first switched to LCD's not that long ago, there was a bit of a
transition period that my eyes went through for the first few days of moving
from a CRT to an LCD. At first, LCD's seemed way too bright for me and I
found myself turning the brightness and contrast way down in hopes of
matching the brightness of my CRT's. After trying that for a little bit, it
seemed to me that my eyes were somewhat strained from trying to match the
brightness and contrast. I then went in the other direction and made my
LCD's brighter than I've ever used on a CRT. It did take a little getting
used to at first, but after that, it's been very good. However, seeing that
you have your Samsung set to 50% brightness, I would assume it's already way
brighter than your old CRT. Maybe try lowering it. I guess everyone has
different eyes. :-)

This might be a bit of a long shot, but I have to wonder if the response
time of your LCD might be a bit of an issue. The LCD that I'm using on my
Internet computer here is a 15" model with a 25ms response time and analog
plug only. Even when scrolling text on the screen, I can see slight
ghosting. It's not really an issue for me, but it could be for you. My
other LCD on my main computer is a 16ms 17" model with a DVI connection and
it's definitely an improvement. That's not to say that my 25ms LCD is bad
by any means, but I know that large LCD's like what you have are almost
impossible to get with response times of 25ms (at least to my current
knowledge).

I wear glasses and have a fairly strong prescription. Without my glasses, I
suffer from pretty bad astigmatism, along with near-sightedness. Reading a
monitor or newspaper from more than 10 or 12 inches away from my face is
practically impossible for me without my glasses.

I had the same problem but then realised that the problem was that it was
the contrast setting which required to be turned down.

Its fine now

Beemer
Anonymous
a b Ô Samsung
May 13, 2005 1:42:50 AM

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On Wed, 4 May 2005 22:52:28 -0600, "NightSky 421"
<nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>"Bruno" <Bruno@Bergencounty.com> wrote in message
>news:a70i7154f2i9pin1dvhjfm6m66t88vigtq@4ax.com...
>> I used to hear LCDs are easier on eyes. In my case, I
>> switched from an old 17inch CTX CRT, a solid good-quality
>> monitor, to the newest 21.3 inch LCD - Samsung 213T. I set
>> the brightness to 50%. After using it for about 5 or 6
>> hours daily for the last few days, My eyes feel stinging and
>> dry. It could be the effects of my usual spring allergy,
>> but my allergy usually causes itchiness only.
>>
>> If you happen to own Samsung 213T, do you have similar
>> experience?
>
>
>Just relaying my own experience, even though it seems different than
>yours...
>
>I don't know if this will help you since I have not used that model, but
>when I first switched to LCD's not that long ago, there was a bit of a
>transition period that my eyes went through for the first few days of moving
>from a CRT to an LCD. At first, LCD's seemed way too bright for me and I
>found myself turning the brightness and contrast way down in hopes of
>matching the brightness of my CRT's. After trying that for a little bit, it
>seemed to me that my eyes were somewhat strained from trying to match the
>brightness and contrast. I then went in the other direction and made my
>LCD's brighter than I've ever used on a CRT. It did take a little getting
>used to at first, but after that, it's been very good. However, seeing that
>you have your Samsung set to 50% brightness, I would assume it's already way
>brighter than your old CRT. Maybe try lowering it. I guess everyone has
>different eyes. :-)
>
>This might be a bit of a long shot, but I have to wonder if the response
>time of your LCD might be a bit of an issue. The LCD that I'm using on my
>Internet computer here is a 15" model with a 25ms response time and analog
>plug only. Even when scrolling text on the screen, I can see slight
>ghosting. It's not really an issue for me, but it could be for you. My
>other LCD on my main computer is a 16ms 17" model with a DVI connection and
>it's definitely an improvement. That's not to say that my 25ms LCD is bad
>by any means, but I know that large LCD's like what you have are almost
>impossible to get with response times of 25ms (at least to my current
>knowledge).
>
>I wear glasses and have a fairly strong prescription. Without my glasses, I
>suffer from pretty bad astigmatism, along with near-sightedness. Reading a
>monitor or newspaper from more than 10 or 12 inches away from my face is
>practically impossible for me without my glasses.
>

Hi:

ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256MB AGP retail (Cat5.4)
DV-I: Monitor #1 Samsung SyncMaster 213T Black 21.3" TFT
1600x1200 32bit 60Hz (native) Normal size(96 DPI)
VGA: Monitor #2 ViewSonic P225f 22" Aperture Grille CRT
1600x1200 32bit 85Hz Normal size (96 DPI)

I have the Samsung's brightness set at 30 while the ViewSonic's is set
at 76.
I wear glasses and read text on the Samsung for as much as 8-9 hours
straight with no problems.
The Samsung replaced a ViewSonic P817 21" shadow mask CRT. Even though
this was a very high quality CRT, I couldn't read text on it for more
than ~2 hours before I got the burning/dry eyes you mentioned.
My monitor buys from now on will always be TFT until something better
comes along.
Bruno ... I don't know what to say. I'm really pleased with the
Samsung.
In Word2003 for example I read .doc files with the Microsoft Reference
SansSerif font size 10 all day. My eyes aren't bothered.
Change the settings to what I use, change video cards or remember to
blink :) 

Happy trails,
!