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May 30, 2004 6:25:48 PM

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Hi everyones! Thanks to read.
I've bought an internal Flash card reader/floppy drive combo that you can
see here: http://www.directron.com/fa404.html I'm running it under
Windows98SE with the appropriate driver (Win2000/ME/XP doesn't need a
driver). I've cheated since i'll buy my digicam only in a week or two, but i
wanted to get done at setting up the card reader 1st. I've bought also an SD
256Mb card from Transcend. Tested the reader with a friend's Memory Stick
and could read his pictures without any problem. Later during the evening, i
did some tests with my 256Mb SD card. I tried to transfer files to it and
then discovered a problem. For a few files there's no problem, but when i
try to write hundreds of .jpg files (no i'm not exceding the capacity of the
card...!), i eventually end up by geting the message: "The directory or file
cannot be created" and the transfer stops. What have been transfered before
this error message appears is ok.

When i get this message, i can't add more files to the card. I've deleted
all the contents of the card, then retried. Got the same message. I thought
it was because of the file naming (because of french, i often use different
accented characters), so i copied the the files to a new folder, then with
ACDSee i did a batch rename for all the files, renaming them
000-001-002...and so on. When trying again to write those newly renamed
files, i get the same error. I'm able to write to the card a little more
files (about 300 out of 748, instead of the 153), but the write process
stops when the same amount of files have been transfered each time i try. I
don't have any clue. I've checked the support>FAQ section of Mitsumi's web
site, but could not find anything about this problem. Found instead the
deceiving message: "Important Notice for Mitsumi Product Owners:
Mitsumi does not offer repair services, repair parts, and does not have an
authorized repair shop." Well...nice! :-(
I'm searching on Google at the time i'm writing this, hoping that i'll find
something. Have any idea about my problem? Thanks for any useful replies.
--
Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
Montréal Québec
PS: 1000 excuses for errors or omissions,
i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
Come to visit me at: http://kilowatt.camarades.com
(If replying also by e-mail, remove
"no spam" from the adress.)
Anonymous
May 30, 2004 10:46:48 PM

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"KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:KFpuc.78414$tb4.2844071@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Hi everyones! Thanks to read.
> I've bought an internal Flash card reader/floppy drive combo that you can
> see here: http://www.directron.com/fa404.html I'm running it under
> Windows98SE with the appropriate driver (Win2000/ME/XP doesn't need a
> driver). I've cheated since i'll buy my digicam only in a week or two, but
i
> wanted to get done at setting up the card reader 1st. I've bought also an
SD
> 256Mb card from Transcend. Tested the reader with a friend's Memory Stick
> and could read his pictures without any problem. Later during the evening,
i
> did some tests with my 256Mb SD card. I tried to transfer files to it and
> then discovered a problem. For a few files there's no problem, but when i
> try to write hundreds of .jpg files (no i'm not exceding the capacity of
the
> card...!), i eventually end up by geting the message: "The directory or
file
> cannot be created" and the transfer stops. What have been transfered
before
> this error message appears is ok.

There is a limit of how many files you can put into a single directory...
Can you put folders onto the memory stick? Can you put more files into those
folders?
Anonymous
May 30, 2004 10:46:49 PM

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"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in
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>
> "KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:KFpuc.78414$tb4.2844071@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Hi everyones! Thanks to read.
>> I've bought an internal Flash card reader/floppy drive combo that you
>> can see here: http://www.directron.com/fa404.html I'm running it
>> under Windows98SE with the appropriate driver (Win2000/ME/XP doesn't
>> need a driver). I've cheated since i'll buy my digicam only in a week
>> or two, but
> i
>> wanted to get done at setting up the card reader 1st. I've bought
>> also an
> SD
>> 256Mb card from Transcend. Tested the reader with a friend's Memory
>> Stick and could read his pictures without any problem. Later during
>> the evening,
> i
>> did some tests with my 256Mb SD card. I tried to transfer files to it
>> and then discovered a problem. For a few files there's no problem,
>> but when i try to write hundreds of .jpg files (no i'm not exceding
>> the capacity of
> the
>> card...!), i eventually end up by geting the message: "The directory
>> or
> file
>> cannot be created" and the transfer stops. What have been transfered
> before
>> this error message appears is ok.
>
> There is a limit of how many files you can put into a single
> directory... Can you put folders onto the memory stick? Can you put
> more files into those folders?
>
>
>

There is a limit of 512 files in the Root directory of a FAT16 drive, but
no practical limit to the number of files in a directory (folder).

So to solve Kilowatt's problem, create a folder on the SD card and copy the
files into that.

Alternatively format the card as FAT32 which doesn't have the root
limitation - the disadvantage being that many digital cameras don't support
the FAT32 file system.
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Anonymous
May 31, 2004 12:19:48 AM

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Be sure to reformat the SD card in your camera before use! You may not get
any warning of impending doom for your photographs.

"RFJ" <rfjoyner@REMOVE.THIS.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F9DEFF08D8FRFJ4NJK@216.196.97.131...
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in
> news:s_puc.591957$Pk3.185256@pd7tw1no:
>
> >
> > "KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
> > news:KFpuc.78414$tb4.2844071@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> Hi everyones! Thanks to read.
> >> I've bought an internal Flash card reader/floppy drive combo that you
> >> can see here: http://www.directron.com/fa404.html I'm running it
> >> under Windows98SE with the appropriate driver (Win2000/ME/XP doesn't
> >> need a driver). I've cheated since i'll buy my digicam only in a week
> >> or two, but
> > i
> >> wanted to get done at setting up the card reader 1st. I've bought
> >> also an
> > SD
> >> 256Mb card from Transcend. Tested the reader with a friend's Memory
> >> Stick and could read his pictures without any problem. Later during
> >> the evening,
> > i
> >> did some tests with my 256Mb SD card. I tried to transfer files to it
> >> and then discovered a problem. For a few files there's no problem,
> >> but when i try to write hundreds of .jpg files (no i'm not exceding
> >> the capacity of
> > the
> >> card...!), i eventually end up by geting the message: "The directory
> >> or
> > file
> >> cannot be created" and the transfer stops. What have been transfered
> > before
> >> this error message appears is ok.
> >
> > There is a limit of how many files you can put into a single
> > directory... Can you put folders onto the memory stick? Can you put
> > more files into those folders?
> >
> >
> >
>
> There is a limit of 512 files in the Root directory of a FAT16 drive, but
> no practical limit to the number of files in a directory (folder).
>
> So to solve Kilowatt's problem, create a folder on the SD card and copy
the
> files into that.
>
> Alternatively format the card as FAT32 which doesn't have the root
> limitation - the disadvantage being that many digital cameras don't
support
> the FAT32 file system.
>
May 31, 2004 12:53:16 AM

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How about formatting the memory card first?

Interesting - I ordered one of those combo drives 2 days ago.
May 31, 2004 12:53:17 AM

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Thanks a lot for all your replies!

By searching on Google, i've found 2 interesting URLs: The following
describes a similar problem with someone's ZIP drive and the answer from
Iomega about his problem.
http://members.cox.net/nilshoke/Computer%20Corner%20030...
(scroll down to the section with the phrase: "Frank Fiederlein ran into a
strange problem with his 100 MB Zip drive..." )

This one also explains pretty much (so you did! :-) ) the cause of my
problem.
http://home.merlin.mb.ca/~kolson/tecnotes/19971103.html

Thanks anyway for your replies, since they confirmed that my problem was
exactly related to file system limitations. Now by copying the content to a
folder instead of the root, all the files are transfered without this error
message. Nice of you to reply so quickly...i appreciate!

--
Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
Montréal Québec
PS: 1000 excuses for errors or omissions,
i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
Come to visit me at: http://kilowatt.camarades.com
(If replying also by e-mail, remove
"no spam" from the adress.)
May 31, 2004 9:55:21 PM

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BACK TO THE BASICS, HUH?

Cool...it works. Thanks to the quikie from RF


KILOWATT wrote:
> Thanks a lot for all your replies!
>
> By searching on Google, i've found 2 interesting URLs: The following
> describes a similar problem with someone's ZIP drive and the answer from
> Iomega about his problem.
> http://members.cox.net/nilshoke/Computer%20Corner%20030...
> (scroll down to the section with the phrase: "Frank Fiederlein ran into a
> strange problem with his 100 MB Zip drive..." )
>
> This one also explains pretty much (so you did! :-) ) the cause of my
> problem.
> http://home.merlin.mb.ca/~kolson/tecnotes/19971103.html
>
> Thanks anyway for your replies, since they confirmed that my problem was
> exactly related to file system limitations. Now by copying the content to a
> folder instead of the root, all the files are transfered without this error
> message. Nice of you to reply so quickly...i appreciate!
>
> --
> Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
> Montréal Québec
> PS: 1000 excuses for errors or omissions,
> i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
> Come to visit me at: http://kilowatt.camarades.com
> (If replying also by e-mail, remove
> "no spam" from the adress.)
>
>
May 31, 2004 11:19:53 PM

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> Cool...it works. Thanks to the quikie from RF
Yes FiSH...you gonna' love this thing! ;-)
June 6, 2004 10:38:11 PM

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Hey KIlo, you're right - I DO love it. Came in the mail yesterday.
No more card adapters!

I installed the Media Formatting utility that came on the mini cd. The
program didn't work. Oh well, I wouldn't use it anyway. Uninstalled that
program.

This bugger is pretty slick. I've been using my cards for file transfers
a bunch, and this makes it that much easier.


KILOWATT wrote:
>>Cool...it works. Thanks to the quikie from RF
>
> Yes FiSH...you gonna' love this thing! ;-)
>
>
June 9, 2004 6:41:38 AM

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Happy to see that you like the reader! No problem here with the version 2.05
under Win98SE. I bought it OEM so i had to go to the website for the driver.
They say the under Windows 2000 sp2 or XP, you don't have anything to
install...

--
Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
Montréal Québec
PS: 1000 excuses for errors or omissions,
i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
Come to visit me at: http://kilowatt.camarades.com
(If replying also by e-mail, remove
"no spam" from the adress.)
!