Most beneficial upgrade, cpu/mobo, or vid card?

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Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2 ultra
mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at stock
speed.
Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual channel,
all on win xp pro sp 2.
Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx nforce
4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but I can't
cough up over $700.00 right now.
Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade would
be in order.
Cheers
Milo
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    if i were you i would get more memory
  2. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    I would buy the unlocked Barton XP-Mobile for $100, run the fsb at 200+,
    clock the processor to at least 2200-2500mhz.


    Milo Malhame wrote:
    > Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2 ultra
    > mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at stock
    > speed.
    > Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual channel,
    > all on win xp pro sp 2.
    > Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
    > Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
    > mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx nforce
    > 4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but I can't
    > cough up over $700.00 right now.
    > Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
    > Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
    > This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade would
    > be in order.
    > Cheers
    > Milo
    >
    >
  3. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    Get up to a gig of memory .. the PC3200 corsair value RAM is decent for 80$
    (US).


    "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:XHICe.1977262$6l.38494@pd7tw2no...
    > Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2
    > ultra mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at
    > stock speed.
    > Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual channel,
    > all on win xp pro sp 2.
    > Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
    > Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
    > mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx
    > nforce 4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but I
    > can't cough up over $700.00 right now.
    > Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
    > Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
    > This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade
    > would be in order.
    > Cheers
    > Milo
    >
  4. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    So what you are saying is neither choice is a worthy upgrade and just up the
    ram to one Gig? What does that accomplish and what do I do with the 512 megs
    that I currently have? They are 2 sticks of 256 in dual channel. I would
    have to toss or sell them to upgrade to 2x512 sticks. I can't believe that
    is a better alternative to a new vid card or cpu/mobo combo.
    thanks anyways.
    Milo

    "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:XHICe.1977262$6l.38494@pd7tw2no...
    > Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2
    > ultra mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at
    > stock speed.
    > Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual channel,
    > all on win xp pro sp 2.
    > Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
    > Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
    > mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx
    > nforce 4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but I
    > can't cough up over $700.00 right now.
    > Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
    > Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
    > This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade
    > would be in order.
    > Cheers
    > Milo
    >
  5. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    I f you insist on a new video card then it should be a PCI-E for upgrades to
    the future (within a year or so) ... but your current MB now can't handle
    PCI-E video card.

    Getting a new MB you should get an NF4 board (or Via yech!!!!) and an NF4
    borad uses PCI-E video cards .. you could get a new CPU .. like a 939 chip
    CPU and then you could keep your 9800 PRO but you'd need to get an NF3 board
    as NF4 boards use PCI-E.

    I do think that your Flight simulator and NFS would work much better with 1
    gig of RAM and would be a noticeable difference. If your current MB can
    handle 4 sticks of RAM then get 2 more of the 'same' RAM sticks. 2x512 is a
    better solution though as the NF boards are slower usually with 4 sticks of
    RAM than just 2 sticks... some limitaitons on the memory controller. Your
    OCZ PC3200 is probably good RAM

    The only reason I suggested RAM is because it allows you to upgrade the
    other components when you have some more cash, getting a MB or new CPU means
    that you need to upgrade everything if you go with an NF4 board ... you
    could go with a VIA (KT800) or NF3 (250)chipset and get a 939 CPU and keep
    your 9800 PRO ..... and keep your 512 memory .. I do recommend 1 gig of
    memory though at some time. Going with the VIA/NF3 board and a AMD 64
    3000/3200 would keep you in your budget. If you want to get an X800XL, they
    do have some AGP versions .. they are very nice cards but would shoot your
    budget and would not be upgradeable to future MB's. I have a PCI X800XL PCI
    card .. up from a 9800 Pro and it is very nice.


    "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:lp0De.271898$El.149794@pd7tw1no...
    > So what you are saying is neither choice is a worthy upgrade and just up
    > the
    > ram to one Gig? What does that accomplish and what do I do with the 512
    > megs
    > that I currently have? They are 2 sticks of 256 in dual channel. I would
    > have to toss or sell them to upgrade to 2x512 sticks. I can't believe that
    > is a better alternative to a new vid card or cpu/mobo combo.
    > thanks anyways.
    > Milo
    >
    > "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    > news:XHICe.1977262$6l.38494@pd7tw2no...
    >> Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2
    >> ultra mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at
    >> stock speed.
    >> Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual
    >> channel, all on win xp pro sp 2.
    >> Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
    >> Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
    >> mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx
    >> nforce 4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but
    >> I can't cough up over $700.00 right now.
    >> Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
    >> Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
    >> This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade
    >> would be in order.
    >> Cheers
    >> Milo
    >>
    >
    >
  6. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    Funny. You can actually get dual-channel if you were to buy one 512MB stick
    of RAM. You could run the two 256MB DIMM's in one channel and the one 512MB
    stick in the other channel. You would have 1GB all in dual-channel. This
    would be the cheapest upgrade you could get.

    The biggest bang-for-the-buck upgrade would be the X800XL. The problem with
    that upgrade is that your CPU is kinda slow. If you overclocked your CPU and
    bought the X800XL that would be the upgrade I'd recommend. Since the games
    you mentioned are not limited by your CPU.

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    "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    news:lp0De.271898$El.149794@pd7tw1no...
    > So what you are saying is neither choice is a worthy upgrade and just up
    > the
    > ram to one Gig? What does that accomplish and what do I do with the 512
    > megs
    > that I currently have? They are 2 sticks of 256 in dual channel. I would
    > have to toss or sell them to upgrade to 2x512 sticks. I can't believe that
    > is a better alternative to a new vid card or cpu/mobo combo.
    > thanks anyways.
    > Milo
    >
    > "Milo Malhame" <milom@shaw.ca> wrote in message
    > news:XHICe.1977262$6l.38494@pd7tw2no...
    >> Current system is athlon Barton 2800+ not overclocked on MSI nforce 2
    >> ultra mobo at 167 fsb (default settings) with an ati 9800 pro 128 meg at
    >> stock speed.
    >> Ram is 2x 256 megs OCZ pc 3200 with copper heat spreaders in dual
    >> channel, all on win xp pro sp 2.
    >> Question is for $350.00 cad I can upgrade the vid card (on sale at FS
    >> Canada) to an ATI x800 xl 256 meg agp card or I can upgrade processor and
    >> mobo to an athlon 64 3000 "Venice" s939 ($183.00) and asus a8n-e atx
    >> nforce 4 mobo ($141.00). I know that I should probably upgrade both, but
    >> I can't cough up over $700.00 right now.
    >> Only games we play are NFS Underground and MS flight Sim 9.
    >> Which upgrade do you feel is most worthy?
    >> This system needs to last about 2 more years and then a total upgrade
    >> would be in order.
    >> Cheers
    >> Milo
    >>
    >
    >
    >
  7. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati (More info?)

    yes the X800XL and then a ram upgrade next month, sell the old
    stuff to your buddy or maybe a forum such as hardocp. That CPU is by no
    means slow. No it is not an A 64, but it is still plenty fast enough.


    Doug wrote:
    > Funny. You can actually get dual-channel if you were to buy one 512MB stick
    > of RAM. You could run the two 256MB DIMM's in one channel and the one 512MB
    > stick in the other channel. You would have 1GB all in dual-channel. This
    > would be the cheapest upgrade you could get.
    >
    > The biggest bang-for-the-buck upgrade would be the X800XL. The problem with
    > that upgrade is that your CPU is kinda slow. If you overclocked your CPU and
    > bought the X800XL that would be the upgrade I'd recommend. Since the games
    > you mentioned are not limited by your CPU.
    >
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