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Mike, I do use Outlook Express. Thanks for tip on checking the source. I
didn't know that. So far, I have not opened anything that was not from
someone I did know but I am aware of address stealing or whatever it's
called. Can't be too careful and IMO can't really have to much protection.
'"Mike Fields" <spam_me_not_mr.gadget2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uYv8ZKRoFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Not sure on that one in particular, but understand that if someone
> you have had "email relations" with gets infected, the junk on their
> machine often grabs their address book first and sends itself on to
> everyone in it. They don't even know anything was sent -
> especially if they are on broadband or DSL and "always on".
> Kazza, Gator and the others like that remind me of what I pick up
> in the yard after the dogs. I don't know which email client you
> use (what do you read your email with). If it is Lookout Express.... er..
> I mean Outlook Express, you can sneak up on email that is not
> plain text without it running. Right click the message, select
> "properties" , click the "details" tab then click the "message source"
> button. It will open the message in a TEXT only window so nothing
> gets a chance to run. You can see what is in it and if it makes
> sense. Just because it is "from someone you know" doesn't mean
> it is really "from" them - it could be from their machine that is
> infected or from some other source with a forged header.
> It's a tough world out there ...
>
> mikey
>
> "Lisa" <NoOne@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:_vNLe.23763$dJ5.7645@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Thanks for the response Malke. The tech's warning on Adaware made me
>> doubt
>> everything I had been told so thanks for reassuring me. As for Kaaza, it
>> was not downloaded on PC. Only one file was on it. I live alone and NO
>> ONE
>> uses my PC. The tech's take on this was it was transferred via email.
>> It's
>> been my understanding that this can only happen IF you open attachments
> from
>> people whom you don't know. I never do that. But he said spyware can be
>> transferred without opening attachments and that's what I was curious
> about.
>> If that's true, there's really no way of really protecting against it.
>> People with whom I correspond could transfer it unknowingly. ????
>>
>> "Malke" <invalid@not-real.com> wrote in message
>> news:uKwU4jQoFHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > Lisa wrote:
>> >
>> >> I use Lavasoft/Adaware daily. My PC recentley crashed and the tech who
>> >> repaired it told me this program may have caused it. He advised me to
>> >> more careful with my downloads. I got this spyware recommendation from
>> >> Microsoft:
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/honeycutt_spyware.mspx.
>> >> Does anyone agree with his opinion? I've never had a problem using
>> >> Adaware before and I thought it was very beneficial to keeping my PC
>> >> clean.Also, he printed a dump from my PC which showed a lot of junk
>> >> sites I had never accessed (e.g., Kazaa was set to run on Start up
>> >> although I never downloaded it and it did not appear in Add/Remove
>> >> Programs ). I use Windows XP with the SP2 download. I use AVG as well
>> >> as Adaware. No one else uses my PC. I was totally at a loss as to how
>> >> any of these bad sites got on my PC. The tech told me it was probably
>> >> emails. I never open attachments from anyone unknown to me. He said it
>> >> really doesn't matter. If their computer is infected they can pass it
>> >> along without their own knowledge. Is this true and if so, is there
>> >> ANY WAY to really protect yourself??? Dazed and confused.
>> >
>> > It is very, very, very unlikely that Ad-aware caused any problems. I
>> > don't think you need to run it every day though. That's overkill. As
>> > for how Kazaa, etc. got into your computer - someone in your household
>> > must have done this. While I've certainly seen some spyware do a
>> > driveby install on a pre-SP2 box, Kazaa has to be downloaded and
>> > installed by someone. There isn't any way for me to know who did this;
>> > you know who lives with you.
>> >
>> > This does remind me of a recent incident with one of my clients. I had
>> > just cleaned her machine - XP Home, SP2 - and then a few weeks later
>> > she was calling me again. She had tons of spyware, rogue antispyware
>> > programs, and pr0n links. "How did this happen?" she wailed. She never
>> > went to bad sites, never opened attachments. Well, we looked at the
>> > History for both Firefox and IE and it was just like reading a story.
>> > We could see the exact date and time her 10-year-old son and his little
>> > friend started searching for s@x stuff, what they looked at, what they
>> > downloaded, and where they panicked and downloaded the rogue
>> > antispyware program. So there you go.
>> >
>> > Malke
>> > --
>> > Elephant Boy Computers
>> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> > "Don't Panic!"
>> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>>
>
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