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Anonymous
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September 12, 2005 11:59:37 AM

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Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 13, 2005 12:29:45 AM

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I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
news:%23jtI5I6tFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 13, 2005 12:28:51 PM

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I do not have ZoneAlarm. Maybe this isn't a problem if my DSL isn't running before NAV is started. Don't know how to tell that because startup only takes about a minute.


"FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message news:eZvC$o$tFHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
news:%23jtI5I6tFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon
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Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 14, 2005 12:18:17 AM

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Startup should be 20 or 30 seconds, not a minute. My startup increase to
about a minute only in the situation where NAV is red marked until ZA runs
(which is always the last program to run).

Frank

"Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
news:%23lVj49GuFHA.1284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I do not have ZoneAlarm. Maybe this isn't a problem if my DSL isn't running
before NAV is started. Don't know how to tell that because startup only
takes about a minute.


"FrankV" <FrankV@anonymous.address> wrote in message
news:eZvC$o$tFHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
happens again a few times.

Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
this problem is happpening.

Frank



"Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
news:%23jtI5I6tFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hello,

I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
"force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
troubleshoot this problem?


Regards,
Bob Brannon
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 14, 2005 10:28:02 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

I also have the same problem w/ my XP...
How can I install (or get) ZoneAlarm?
I am wondering if this problem is preventing me from
accessing secure sites on Internet Explorer. Any advice?

"FrankV" wrote:

> I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red but
> I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
> boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
> happens again a few times.
>
> Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active when
> this problem is happpening.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> "Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
> news:%23jtI5I6tFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
> computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton
> Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once
> startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
> starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
> until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can
> "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to
> troubleshoot this problem?
>
>
> Regards,
> Bob Brannon
>
>
>
>
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 14, 2005 9:04:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

Free version of ZoneAlarm is at
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/...

Frank

"Brigitte" <Brigitte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A52CFF40-7E8C-4634-8DC6-CB24A6E35748@microsoft.com...
>I also have the same problem w/ my XP...
> How can I install (or get) ZoneAlarm?
> I am wondering if this problem is preventing me from
> accessing secure sites on Internet Explorer. Any advice?
>
> "FrankV" wrote:
>
>> I've had almost the same problem for a long time. NAV is crossed in red
>> but
>> I don't get the security balloon you see. It doesn't happen after every
>> boot. It seems to be in spells; works ok for a stretch and then this
>> happens again a few times.
>>
>> Do you use ZoneAlarm? NAV appears to be off until ZoneAlarm is active
>> when
>> this problem is happpening.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23jtI5I6tFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my
>> computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying
>> Norton
>> Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone
>> once
>> startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not
>> starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time
>> until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I
>> can
>> "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way
>> to
>> troubleshoot this problem?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Brannon
>>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 16, 2005 2:27:49 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin (More info?)

Jonah,

How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.

"jonah" <jonah@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:738hi11haqqrivtjlom00f9qmkr9r3o92b@4ax.com...
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:37 -0600, "Bob Brannon" <bbran@3rivers.net>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I am using XP Home SP2. For some reason lately, everytime I start my computer, a security center balloon pops up in the system tray saying Norton Antivirus (NAV) is turned off and I may be vulnerable. Then it is gone once startup is complete. This tells me that for some reason Windows is not starting NAV first thing anymore. It concerns me that for the short time until it is started, my system may be vulnerable. Is there some way I can "force" NAV to be the first thing that starts, or is there some other way to troubleshoot this problem?
>
>
>Regards,
>Bob Brannon
>

Bob,

As long as your NAV runs OK don't worry about the security alert or
the starting order just ensure its updated correctly via live update.
You know enough about security to not need nanny nag reminders about
AV updates and such, switch off the alerts in Control Panel that will
kill the bubble reminder and keep your eye on security yourself.

Frank

if your NAV is not running / intermittant and / or won't start you
need to get it re-installed its the only way to fix Norton Stuff. This
is not as easy as it sounds you cannot uninstall Norton sucessfully
every time via Add / Remove Programs you have to go to Symantecs
Support site and get the uninstallation instructions and app if
applicable for your flavour of NAV. Last time I saw this was
particular Norton balls up was 12 months ago and it was as I recall
caused by a conflict with Real Player 10 that time, one of a great
many problems NAV has. I would advise getting rid of it altogether
rather than re-install it and using AVG (free) or NOD32 (pay) Trawl a
few security NGs and you will lose count of the number of times Norton
comes up causing problems very quickly, that should tell you all you
need to know.

http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1

http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

Brigitte

NAV will not stop you getting to secure sites, this is more likely to
be Firewall Settings or Malware Infection.

Check this

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/win/xp/secure.htm

Jonah
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 16, 2005 10:51:45 PM

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Bob Brannon wrote:

> Jonah,
>
> How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
> anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.
>
Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run --> services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
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Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
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Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 16, 2005 10:51:46 PM

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Thanks!

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" <Torgeir.Bakken-spam@hydro.com> wrote in message news:uDzEi%23tuFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Bob Brannon wrote:

> Jonah,
>
> How do I switch off alerts? I cannot find that option
> anywhere and help doesn't tell me anything.
>
Hi,

Control Panel/Security Center, click on the "Change the Way
Security Center Notifies Me" link in the left pane.


If the "Change the Way Security Center Notifies Me" doesn't stick
when you reboot, or you want to disable the Security Center totally,
you can do the following:

Start/Run --> services.msc

Find "Security Center" in the list, double click on it, set
"Startup type" to Disabled.


Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883792



--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.m...
!