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AMD Bulldozer Speed Record Broken Again at 8.58GHz

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November 5, 2011 6:05:10 PM

Is a liquid nitrogen overclock usable? No. Then it's not interesting other than as a gimmick.
November 5, 2011 6:16:34 PM

I'm waiting for the first stupid "But can it play Crysis?" comment
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November 5, 2011 6:20:05 PM

No one cares.
November 5, 2011 6:20:38 PM

But can it run Crysis?

I mean realistically, this has no value. Why have a toilet plated in gold if you cant crap in it? No matter how high you OC, its on two of the 8 cores and it still would get smoked by a i7 2600k ocd to a usable 5ghz on ALL cores.

Complete Gimmick
November 5, 2011 6:21:43 PM

SmileyTPB1I'm waiting for the first stupid "But can it play Crysis?" comment


wish granted! =D
November 5, 2011 6:24:10 PM

SmileyTPB1I'm waiting for the first stupid "But can it play Crysis?" comment


Can it play Dave? :p 
November 5, 2011 6:25:27 PM

And it's power consumption?
November 5, 2011 6:26:13 PM

on a more nerdy note, at this rate, he might just end up making the mobo and processor superconducting. lol.
November 5, 2011 6:29:27 PM

LydenNo one cares.

Damn, beat me to it
November 5, 2011 6:31:05 PM

I totally agree it may be record breaking but it's not useable. No consumer will cool their computer with liquid nitrogen. Whats the best OC he can get with say good old liquid cooling? or Simple to use Air cooling, that's something I would really pay attention too and really be useful
November 5, 2011 6:36:16 PM

Jul. 26, 2000
"Intel predicts 10GHz chips by 2011"

fail.
November 5, 2011 6:36:48 PM

I think the stick that is being used to beat this dead horse was broken a while ago. Leave the poor horse to R.I.P.
November 5, 2011 6:38:25 PM

I bet a Sandy Bridged air cooled, OC'd to 4.8 GHz will out perform a 8.5 GHz Bulldozer at 8.5 GHz.
November 5, 2011 6:40:35 PM

beaynJul. 26, 2000"Intel predicts 10GHz chips by 2011"fail.


dunno, the way its looking the second gen 22nm's from intel may break 9GHz
November 5, 2011 6:45:35 PM

In other news...

Bulldozer still sucks.
November 5, 2011 6:58:59 PM

ribaldI bet a Sandy Bridged air cooled, OC'd to 4.8 GHz will out perform a 8.5 GHz Bulldozer at 8.5 GHz.

...of course...and?
November 5, 2011 7:02:32 PM

Aaaand it still sucks.
Anonymous
November 5, 2011 7:04:24 PM

"I bet a Sandy Bridged air cooled, OC'd to 4.8 GHz will out perform a 8.5 GHz Bulldozer at 8.5 GHz."

Actually, it won't, not even close. They both can OC to 4.8ghz, where they trade blows on many benchmarks, while everyone harps about a few benchmarks they regressed on vs Phenom II. Depending on what you use your computer for, Bulldozer may actually be a better CPU.

"dunno, the way its looking the second gen 22nm's from intel may break 9GHz"

Why would you assume that, it may have a cold bug other problem with extreme OCing? Even if it actually did, the people that are saying "who cares" now would magically find a way to care. Go look at the comments section from the last Tom's article where Intel broke an OC record, nothing but high-fives all the way around, even though it really is useless.
November 5, 2011 7:21:19 PM

goatsetungIs a liquid nitrogen overclock usable? No. Then it's not interesting other than as a gimmick.


Think that says it all. It really should be a race of how many instructions per second, then how many ghz you can go. It's like reving your engine, it might be cute, but if you only have one gear, you're not going very fast.
November 5, 2011 7:22:25 PM

I bet the chip had a 10 minutes life span. Kinda overrated with exotic cooling.
November 5, 2011 7:22:46 PM

Anyone remember that Late Night with Conan O'Brien skit where a voice constantly says "WWWHOOO CAAAARES?!"
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November 5, 2011 7:26:22 PM

Should this even count? He's getting a quarter of the cores on the die to a high speed, sure, but I don't think most folks who buy that chip will want just dual core for that price point. Get all the cores at that speed, and then I MIGHT be impressed.
November 5, 2011 7:36:08 PM

No one cares. No one is going to care until they sell them at that speed, and even then no one will care because you will need a small nuclear reactor to power your computer.
November 5, 2011 7:46:50 PM

Looking at benchsmarks on how this processor performs at around 5 gigherz a core is pretty remarkable; However these processors are so badly manufactured that they can't do this efficiently. If AMD figures out how to manufacture this architecture correctly they might still have a chance. I will not be holding my breathe.
November 5, 2011 7:49:48 PM

And cpuz still can't display all bulldozers instruction sets.
November 5, 2011 8:04:42 PM

It's like the rocket cars going a 500m[h on a salt flat. Interesting show but useless in downtown Manhatten...
November 5, 2011 8:08:20 PM

goatsetungIs a liquid nitrogen overclock usable? No. Then it's not interesting other than as a gimmick.


Good point. Perhaps we should just go back to clocks measured in MHz... or maybe you would be happier with seconds per cycle instead.

LN cooling may not be practical, but most Guinness records aren't. At least it's progress of some form. Yes, efficiency per clock is important, but we'll still need to increase clock rates in the future... at least until quantum computing matures or another tech replaces what we depend on today.
November 5, 2011 8:21:25 PM

Totally meaning less. AMD needs to out perform Intel at room temperature.
November 5, 2011 8:42:25 PM

freggoIt's like the rocket cars going a 500m[h on a salt flat. Interesting show but useless in downtown Manhatten...


Do you have any idea how much engineering goes into making that happen? It doesn't mean anything immediately, but it is a proof of concept. When the Bell X1 broke the sound barrier it was thought of as amazing but impractical because it was one guy in a tiny rocket. Less than a decade later we had jet liners cruising at that speed for hours carrying hundreds of people. The Bugatti Veyron (SS) is another example. I mean the thing is road legal. I know people who still don't think that's even possible. As enthusiasts we are unimpressed but psychologically speaking we all need a proof of concept to progress technologically (a la Star Trek.)
a b À AMD
November 5, 2011 8:53:28 PM

:D  i keep seeing the similar reaction from the older article about fx's overclock. deja vu.
almost about time someone defends amd and someone blames it on windows 7 and someone accuses intel being 3bil so amd should be supported and someone says amd's software optimizations will take zambezi to newer and higher heights and someone tries to grasp at even more straws despite realizing this record is only a numbers game and regular fx still disappointing.
this oc is on 2 cores, similar to a single, hyperthreaded core (pentium ee, anyone?).
imo the asus motherboard is amazing. people who blamed it for fx's poor performance are wrong.
on to the newer things:
the vcore is ridiculous.
the tdp is 124?! last time it was over 200 iirc.
impressive number nonetheless.
until the next record.
November 5, 2011 9:06:47 PM

julius 85In other news...Bulldozer still sucks.

Haters gonna hate.
November 5, 2011 9:08:25 PM

All of the Intel fanboys keep screaming "who cares". If the sandy bridge could get to 8.58Ghz, they would be shouting their praises non-stop. Sure, sandy bridge is faster at more things but when AMD beats it at anything the Intel lovers just go nuts. Gripe all you want, it just shows your bias. Sandy Bridge just cant do EVERYTHING, get over it!
November 5, 2011 9:20:23 PM

cobra5000All of the Intel fanboys keep screaming "who cares". If the sandy bridge could get to 8.58Ghz, they would be shouting their praises non-stop. Sure, sandy bridge is faster at more things but when AMD beats it at anything the Intel lovers just go nuts. Gripe all you want, it just shows your bias. Sandy Bridge just cant do EVERYTHING, get over it!

I never owned an Intel CPU (only have been using AMD CPUs), yet news like this doesn't really surprise me since BD isn't what it should have been....
November 5, 2011 9:35:31 PM

SmileyTPB1I'm waiting for the first stupid "But can it play Crysis?" comment

No. We know it can play Crysis. My question is, "How fast?"
November 5, 2011 9:53:25 PM

Cool! That is.
November 5, 2011 10:01:16 PM

Fun sure, practical no, no one runs their computers with L2N 24/7 so in the end its like a drag race. Speedy for a sec then its over, nothing to show off on the real roads (still love that there is no speeding limits on computers =))
Anonymous
November 5, 2011 10:03:25 PM

Either way, he made the Guiness book... Did you?
November 5, 2011 10:16:54 PM

First off, we all know bulldozer was a flop. It's not a gaming chip, it doesn't have "value"... simply put, it sucks.

But OCing chips is kind of like a hobby for a lot of people (like myself). It's not about making an awesome gaming rig (Hell just about any OCed quad core CPU *even the old 775 Core2Quads* are still good enough for high end gaming lol). Hell, I'm still running a 2.5 year old X58 i7 simply because there is no reason to upgrade lol.

But, this article is about making a CPU squeal as hard as it can for a few minutes. It's fun to do. It's a hobby in itself. It says nothing of the chip's value in day to day use.

Sure it's a nerdy hobby, but it's not like anyone who visits Tom's would be considered anything but nerdy lol.
November 5, 2011 10:40:01 PM

howardp6Totally meaning less. AMD needs to out perform Intel at room temperature.

it does, in quite a few benchmarks. some its better then the i7, some its just better than the i5

de5_royi keep seeing the similar reaction from the older article about fx's overclock. deja vu.almost about time someone defends amd and someone blames it on windows 7 and someone accuses intel being 3bil so amd should be supported and someone says amd's software optimizations will take zambezi to newer and higher heights and someone tries to grasp at even more straws despite realizing this record is only a numbers game and regular fx still disappointing.this oc is on 2 cores, similar to a single, hyperthreaded core (pentium ee, anyone?).imo the asus motherboard is amazing. people who blamed it for fx's poor performance are wrong.on to the newer things:the vcore is ridiculous.the tdp is 124?! last time it was over 200 iirc.impressive number nonetheless.until the next record.


you have to admit that some of the bulldozer benchmarks, something is clearly, and not at the fault of lower per cycle clocks. as its most likely a windows problem, people have to keep pointing it out.
Anonymous
November 5, 2011 10:42:13 PM

ahh, it does still matter to the Intel fanboys otherwise you'd not be posting on here!!!!
November 5, 2011 11:08:55 PM

A failure will always be a failure. No matter how much people can crank it up to the max. (And i am an AMD user)
November 5, 2011 11:18:43 PM

neoverdugoA failure will always be a failure. No matter how much people can crank it up to the max. (And i am an AMD user)

That's respected.
November 5, 2011 11:22:35 PM

Lol all you bitches and haters wouldn't be bitchin and hatin if Intel held the OC record... Don't be such a bunch of pansies. F***** chill.
November 5, 2011 11:28:07 PM

Try using liquid kryptonite maybe it would achive 15ghz speed
November 5, 2011 11:32:38 PM

arson94 said:
Lol all you bitches and haters wouldn't be bitchin and hatin if Intel held the OC record... Don't be such a bunch of pansies. F***** chill.


Intel DOES hold the OC record. This Bulldozer stunt doesn't even register. :p 
November 5, 2011 11:45:09 PM

halcyonIntel DOES hold the OC record. This Bulldozer stunt doesn't even register.


Provide a source or proof and I'll retract my statement. I've tried to find it, but I can't find shit on it lol.
November 5, 2011 11:51:54 PM

arson94Provide a source or proof and I'll retract my statement. I've tried to find it, but I can't find shit on it lol.

Arson, I was troll'n. My apologies, I've had a lot of worms to cast out today and hadn't been fish'n in a while. Was the worm tasty?
November 5, 2011 11:55:44 PM

halcyonArson, I was troll'n. My apologies, I've had a lot of worms to cast out today and hadn't been fish'n in a while. Was the worm tasty?


lol asshole, i really tried to look for that shit. I just thought I was too drunk to effectively use google haha. I'm gonna get another beer, brb...
November 5, 2011 11:58:58 PM

Ok I'm back. Apparently I'm just too drunk to recognize a troll. Haha, you got me...
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