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Installed second hard drive, now can't boot Windows 98SE

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Anonymous
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May 25, 2004 6:52:33 AM

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Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
even though it's booting from the original HD?

I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD to
make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting completely,
except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying
that MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I
close the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and the
task menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second
drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help, and
I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to inactive.

Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to the
black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.

The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
Anonymous
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May 25, 2004 6:52:34 AM

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Obscure (rename or move it somewhere else) the windows directory on the 2nd drive, see what happens.

"larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com...
> Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> even though it's booting from the original HD?
>
> I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD
> to make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting completely,
> except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying that
> MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I close
> the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and the task menu
> shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot except in Safe
> Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second drive.
> Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help, and
> I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to inactive.
>
> Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
> system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to
> the black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.
>
> The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
> recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
May 25, 2004 12:25:10 PM

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WD drives have to be set to "single' drive(no jumper) not 'master' if
there is no slave.

CS must used with 80 pin ribbon cables




"larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com...
> Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> even though it's booting from the original HD?
>
> I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD
to
> make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting
completely,
> except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying
> that MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I
> close the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and
the
> task menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
> except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second
> drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help,
and
> I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to
inactive.
>
> Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
> system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to
the
> black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.
>
> The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
> recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
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Anonymous
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May 25, 2004 6:44:41 PM

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larrymoencurly@my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) astounded us with:
news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com:

> Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> even though it's booting from the original HD?
>
> I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD to
> make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting completely,
> except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying
> that MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I
> close the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and the
> task menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
> except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second
> drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help, and
> I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to inactive.
>
> Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
> system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to the
> black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.
>
> The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
> recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
>

"Cable Select" can be flaky, particularly with having 2 different drive
brand names, try setting each HD to "master" if they are on separate IDE
channels, making sure that your bootable HD is on the primary channel



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Gene P
Anonymous
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May 25, 2004 6:44:42 PM

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"Phÿltêr" <Phÿltêr@freeway.com> wrote in message news:<e8f1b538238887deb7073e34e494f7f4@news.teranews.com>...

> larrymoencurly@my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) astounded us with:
> news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com:
>
> > Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> > even though it's booting from the original HD?

> "Cable Select" can be flaky, particularly with having 2
> different drive brand names, try setting each HD to "master"
> if they are on separate IDE channels, making sure that your
> bootable HD is on the primary channel

I tried that with a 40-wire cable with the BIOS set for PIO 3 and UDMA
turned off (ECS K7VTA3 BIOS doesn't allow limiting UDMA speed), but it
didn't help.
May 26, 2004 2:58:25 AM

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2nd drive partition set to ACTIVE?



"larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com...
> Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> even though it's booting from the original HD?
>
> I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD
to
> make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting
completely,
> except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying
> that MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I
> close the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and
the
> task menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
> except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second
> drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help,
and
> I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to
inactive.
>
> Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
> system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to
the
> black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.
>
> The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
> recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
Anonymous
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May 26, 2004 8:05:49 AM

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"JAD" <jde> wrote in message news:<10b8cggmq6138f0@corp.supernews.com>...

>
> "larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com...

> > Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not
> > two, even though it's booting from the original HD?
> >
> > I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed
> > an 80G WD HD to make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows
> > from booting completely, except in Safe Mode. In normal mode
> > I get an error message saying that MPREXE caused an invalid
> > page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I close the task the
> > screen shows no icons, just the background, and the task
> > menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
> > except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the
> > second drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG
> > didn't help, and I even tried setting the boot partition on
> > the second HD to inactive.

> 2nd drive partition set to ACTIVE?

Originally each drive's boot partition was active because each came
from a single-drive system, and I thought that this was causing a
problem, but it wasn't.

I also tried a Maxtor cloned with the contents of the WD, in case of
cable-select flakiness, but it didn't change anything.

All headaches were probably caused by the VIA 4-in-1 drivers (more
than one version tried) because the same errors occurred with a
VIA-based FIC VA-503+ mobo, but everything was fine when I ran both
drives with mobos based on Intel 810i, Intel 440BX, and SiS 735
chipsets. The funny thing is that I originally had no trouble setting
up my K7VTA3, a first with for any VIA-based mobo with me, so I guess
I was due for my quota of VIA problems. :( 
Anonymous
a b G Storage
May 26, 2004 9:29:24 AM

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My WD 80GB seems to cause similar problems.
(ECS K7S5A PRO motherboard).

"larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:755e968a.0405250152.2c6719f@posting.google.com...
> Why does Windows 98SE work with one IDE HD in my system but not two,
> even though it's booting from the original HD?
>
> I was running an 80G Seagate Baracudda V and installed an 80G WD HD to
> make a backup of it, but it prevented Windows from booting completely,
> except in Safe Mode. In normal mode I get an error message saying
> that MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in MPRSERV.DLL, and when I
> close the task the screen shows no icons, just the background, and the
> task menu shows nothing but an empty entry. Windows won't reboot
> except in Safe Mode, but everything is fine if I remove the second
> drive. Disabling start-up programs through MSCONFIG didn't help, and
> I even tried setting the boot partition on the second HD to inactive.
>
> Each HD was on a separate cable with no other IDE devices in the
> system. I did choose "cable select" for each and attached each to the
> black connector, with the blue connectors going to the mobo.
>
> The mobo is an ECS K7VTA3 v. 8 (VIA KT333 chip set, running fairly
> recent 4-in-1 drivers that came on a CD).
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