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Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.

Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message
news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
> Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
> hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
> itself, not on the platters.
>
> I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
> back to factory defaults.
>

And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that. If a
disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back to
start.

If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is about,
or you have bad intentions.

--
Joep

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
> Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
> hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
> itself, not on the platters.
>
> I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
> back to factory defaults.
>
> Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
> utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
> clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.

Gee, wonder why that is.
Next you are going to complain why the won't remove drive passwords either.

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"Joep" <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote in message news:<16530$40b8ab77$3eddca68$852@nf3.news-service-com>...
> "Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
> > Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
> > hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
> > itself, not on the platters.
> >
> > I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
> > back to factory defaults.
> >
>
> And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that. If a
> disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back to
> start.
>
> If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is about,
> or you have bad intentions.

That's not the reason at all. I just added a second HD and just wanted
to reset the first one so that they both appeared of equal age *to
me*. I am just kind of obsessed with "defaults" or things being
equal... I guess it's a mild OCD. Thank you for jumping to a stupid
conclusion. Only an idiot would buy a second hand HDD anyway (well,
unless they need a small one for a 486 box or something).

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"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message news:<2hsdjiFgmgb5U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> "Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
> > Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
> > hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
> > itself, not on the platters.
> >
> > I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
> > back to factory defaults.
> >
> > Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
> > utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
> > clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.
>
> Gee, wonder why that is.
> Next you are going to complain why the won't remove drive passwords either.

No, there's no way. Certain attributes (temperature for example) will
increase back up to 100 (or whatever the manufacturer uses as maximum)
but the lowest ever value is logged forever in "Worst". Some
attributes (such as power on time) can only come down.

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On 2 Jun 2004 10:06:52 -0700, chris_day_956@hotmail.com (Chris) wrote:

>"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message news:<2hsdjiFgmgb5U1@uni-berlin.de>...
>> "Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
>> > Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
>> > hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
>> > itself, not on the platters.
>> >
>> > I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
>> > back to factory defaults.
>> >
>> > Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
>> > utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
>> > clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.
>>
>> Gee, wonder why that is.
>> Next you are going to complain why the won't remove drive passwords either.
>
>No, there's no way. Certain attributes (temperature for example) will
>increase back up to 100 (or whatever the manufacturer uses as maximum)
>but the lowest ever value is logged forever in "Worst". Some
>attributes (such as power on time) can only come down.

But we remember that updating IBM 60GXP firmware did reset all smart
data, including power on hours.
--
Svend Olaf

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"Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message
news:1846066e.0406010415.72063cb2@posting.google.com...
> "Joep" <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote in message
news:<16530$40b8ab77$3eddca68$852@nf3.news-service-com>...
> > "Darkfalz" <darkfalz@xis.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:1846066e.0405290542.24a3838a@posting.google.com...
> > > Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
> > > hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
> > > itself, not on the platters.
> > >
> > > I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
> > > back to factory defaults.
> > >
> >
> > And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that.
If a
> > disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back
to
> > start.
> >
> > If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is
about,
> > or you have bad intentions.
>
> That's not the reason at all. I just added a second HD and just wanted
> to reset the first one so that they both appeared of equal age *to
> me*. I am just kind of obsessed with "defaults" or things being
> equal... I guess it's a mild OCD. Thank you for jumping to a stupid
> conclusion. Only an idiot would buy a second hand HDD anyway (well,
> unless they need a small one for a 486 box or something).

That's like resetting the milage of a car - it ran 100.000 but it's as good
as new, so why not reset it to zero ... Your 2 drives are not equal of age.
Period. I jumped to this conclusion because of the stupidness of the
question.

--
Joep

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Hmmm, this is an old thread but I just found it while Googling.

I understand that there are 'bad' reasons for wanting to reset SMART
data, but there is, at least, one good reason. The reason is that
SMART isn't perfect. Evidence for this is the fact that Maxtor have a
utility for one of their drives which resets a specific attribute
because triggers too early.

In my case I have an issue with a Maxtor drive on the same attribute,
but sadly the utility won't reset it for me. My problem is that the
drive is failing on the "spin up count" attribute. When I run
Spinrite I'm told that I should back up my data because drive failure
is 'Imminent'. My SMART monitoring software gives me frequent
warnings about the same thing. The problem is that these utilities
have been giving these warnings for nearly two years and the drive
has worked perfectly. It's not used as a 'main' drive and I only use
it for transitory storage, but I don't see why I should spend money
before I need to. I certainly don't intend to sell the drive.

Because nothing will let me reset the, clearly broken, SMART data I
have to click through warnings all the time which is very annoying.

Dave

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OK , The main reason you would wish to reset the SMART INFO is the following.
Drive C in a Compaq system started reporting Smart failure in Jan 2009 , but kept working with no errors till June, at that time error/corup in a file due to a hard disk failure. Replaced the drive with a new tested on other system in June but could not complete the format during new install of XP from CD. After several hours found the CD XP was having problems loading OS on boot. Then the NEW DISK starting reporting SMART Errors. Turns out the mother board HD controler is bad and as so caused the new disk to now report SMART errors. THE DISKs BOTH of them are not bad. The errors that both disks are reporting were caused by the Disk Controler BUT now they are useless unless you deal with the error reporting as is , and of course if the disk were truly going bad you would not notice the errors as you have been egnoring them. So in short beware that there are other reasons to reset the SMART DATA.......
SYS ADMIN for 20 years

Reply to morrisms

I had a similar problem.

I have a raid card that went bad. One of it's failure modes was to cause a high ecc count in the SMART tables of any attached drive, causing the drives to report as bad, even though they are fine.

Now I have several drives that report a SMART failure on bootup, but SpinRite reports them as just fine. Because of this, I can no longer use these drives in the raid, and had to buy all new drives for the new raid card.

Why is this not a valid reason to want to reset the SMART data?

The drives are fine. It was the raid card that was bad.

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I had a similar issue wher ethe drive reported SMART errors. I was installing software for my Palm a couple years ago and it crashed the system. Not even a blue screen, if I recall. When the system came up both of my RAID1 drives were reporting SMART errors. I wanted to reset the SMART flags to see if they'd come back. That would tell me the errors were real.

By the way, both drives ran fine for 2 more years. Until yesterday. :(


Message edited by m610 on 08-30-2009 at 05:47:02 PM
Reply to m610

So, when joeP says:

"If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is about, or you have bad intentions. "

He is telling us more about himself than he is of those he accuses being ignorant or of having evil motives.

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