Malfunctioning Drive Controller on ASUS A7V8X?

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Hi.

I am having very strange issues with my hard drives since a SATA drive
failed. Old PATA drive has slowed down to 2 Mb/s transfer rates, new SATA
drive beeps every 0.5 s or so and does not get recognised. Please see
below for details.

Could my failing drive have damaged the motherboard in some weird way? Or
is the motherboard killing all my drives? I'd appreciate any suggestions.

My Spec
=======

ASUS A7V8X motherboard/Athlon XP 2000+
(Promise 376 SATA controller on board)
(Old) PATA33 Maxtor 53073U6 30 Gb
(New) SATA Seagate Barracude 7200.7 120 Gb
Win XP Pro

History
=======

Bought new SATA drive in Jan and moved system partition there. Everything
was fine until mid-June, when SATA drive first failed to be recognised on
first cold boot and then failed completely: BIOS would recognise
something was connected to the SATA port, but would give up on "Searching
for IDE Device" after a minute or so, and boot off the PATA drive.

SATA drive also failed to work in another machine, so was sent back for
replacement under warranty. It didn't seem to be a head crash, just a
failure of the controller.

Situation Now
=============

Started using PATA drive as my main system drive: it is VERY slow.
Diskbench reports that a filecopy of a 700 Mb CD image is performed at a
rate of 2 Mb/s! Windows takes about 5 minutes to boot. Apart from that,
things more or less work.

SATA drive arrived back. At first, seemed to be detected OK and I was
able to copy the system partition back onto it from a backup. Then,
within a few reboots it started failing: it would be recognised, Windows
would start booting, the drive would stop about 3 or 4 seconds into the
boot sequence, beep and the computer would reset, back into the BIOS.

When I tried booting from the PATA drive instead, with the SATA
connected, it would go OK, but then, whenever I tried accessing the SATA
drive, the drive would whirr up, beep, the just-opened window would come
up with "Not Responding". After 30-60 seconds this would get resolved and
the directory structure would appear. If I tried accessing it again, the
same would occur.

Now, when the SATA drive is connected to either of the controller ports,
it starts beeping every 0.5s immediately on switching on the power, while
the controller BIOS is loaded, but fails to find a drive after searching
for 60 secs or so, i.e. same symptoms as with the first, dead, SATA drive
(apart from the fact that the original did not beep).

 

[Paul]

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In article <Xns9532CFB68F739sawickiipocztaonetpl@127.0.0.1>, Ignacy
Sawicki <spam@spam.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I am having very strange issues with my hard drives since a SATA drive
> failed. Old PATA drive has slowed down to 2 Mb/s transfer rates, new SATA
> drive beeps every 0.5 s or so and does not get recognised. Please see
> below for details.
>
> Could my failing drive have damaged the motherboard in some weird way? Or
> is the motherboard killing all my drives? I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> My Spec
> =======
>
> ASUS A7V8X motherboard/Athlon XP 2000+
> (Promise 376 SATA controller on board)
> (Old) PATA33 Maxtor 53073U6 30 Gb
> (New) SATA Seagate Barracude 7200.7 120 Gb
> Win XP Pro
>
> History
> =======
>
> Bought new SATA drive in Jan and moved system partition there. Everything
> was fine until mid-June, when SATA drive first failed to be recognised on
> first cold boot and then failed completely: BIOS would recognise
> something was connected to the SATA port, but would give up on "Searching
> for IDE Device" after a minute or so, and boot off the PATA drive.
>
> SATA drive also failed to work in another machine, so was sent back for
> replacement under warranty. It didn't seem to be a head crash, just a
> failure of the controller.
>
> Situation Now
> =============
>
> Started using PATA drive as my main system drive: it is VERY slow.
> Diskbench reports that a filecopy of a 700 Mb CD image is performed at a
> rate of 2 Mb/s! Windows takes about 5 minutes to boot. Apart from that,
> things more or less work.
>
> SATA drive arrived back. At first, seemed to be detected OK and I was
> able to copy the system partition back onto it from a backup. Then,
> within a few reboots it started failing: it would be recognised, Windows
> would start booting, the drive would stop about 3 or 4 seconds into the
> boot sequence, beep and the computer would reset, back into the BIOS.
>
> When I tried booting from the PATA drive instead, with the SATA
> connected, it would go OK, but then, whenever I tried accessing the SATA
> drive, the drive would whirr up, beep, the just-opened window would come
> up with "Not Responding". After 30-60 seconds this would get resolved and
> the directory structure would appear. If I tried accessing it again, the
> same would occur.
>
> Now, when the SATA drive is connected to either of the controller ports,
> it starts beeping every 0.5s immediately on switching on the power, while
> the controller BIOS is loaded, but fails to find a drive after searching
> for 60 secs or so, i.e. same symptoms as with the first, dead, SATA drive
> (apart from the fact that the original did not beep).

And, if you examine the Hardware Monitor page in the BIOS, how
are your power supply voltages ? It could be that +5V is low,
and that is upsetting the drives. In the Asus group, we get more
power supply failures, than motherboard failures, so check that
first. ATX power supplies tend to regulate to +/- 5%, so the 5V
is only allowed to drop to 4.75V or go as high as 5.25V. If the
power supply is off by 10%, i.e. 4.5V, the disk drive controller
may have a problem with that.

If the power looks good, then go back to blaming the motherboard.
RMA if there is any warranty left.

HTH,
Paul

 

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nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote in
news:nospam-2707040026100001@192.168.1.177:

[Hardrives slow and beeping]

> And, if you examine the Hardware Monitor page in the BIOS, how
> are your power supply voltages ? It could be that +5V is low,
> and that is upsetting the drives. In the Asus group, we get more
> power supply failures, than motherboard failures, so check that
> first. ATX power supplies tend to regulate to +/- 5%, so the 5V
> is only allowed to drop to 4.75V or go as high as 5.25V. If the
> power supply is off by 10%, i.e. 4.5V, the disk drive controller
> may have a problem with that.
>
> If the power looks good, then go back to blaming the motherboard.
> RMA if there is any warranty left.

The voltages are a bit out, but the 5V seems fine:

12V 12.128
5V 4.977
3.3V 3.072
VCore 1.825 (the BIOS is trying to get 1.75V here)

Could the 3.3V be at fault?

 

[Paul]

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In article <Xns953369A752BFsawickiipocztaonetpl@127.0.0.1>, Ignacy Sawicki
<spam@isbad.com> wrote:

> nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote in
> news:nospam-2707040026100001@192.168.1.177:
>
> [Hardrives slow and beeping]
>
> > And, if you examine the Hardware Monitor page in the BIOS, how
> > are your power supply voltages ? It could be that +5V is low,
> > and that is upsetting the drives. In the Asus group, we get more
> > power supply failures, than motherboard failures, so check that
> > first. ATX power supplies tend to regulate to +/- 5%, so the 5V
> > is only allowed to drop to 4.75V or go as high as 5.25V. If the
> > power supply is off by 10%, i.e. 4.5V, the disk drive controller
> > may have a problem with that.
> >
> > If the power looks good, then go back to blaming the motherboard.
> > RMA if there is any warranty left.
>
> The voltages are a bit out, but the 5V seems fine:
>
> 12V 12.128
> 5V 4.977
> 3.3V 3.072
> VCore 1.825 (the BIOS is trying to get 1.75V here)
>
> Could the 3.3V be at fault?

The hard drive is powered by +12V and +5V, so +3.3V doesn't
affect it directly. But the 3.3V does power a lot of chips,
and it could be indirectly affecting things. If you own a
voltmeter, it wouldn't hurt to grab the 6 pin AUX connector,
if your power supply has one, because it has a 3.3V pin on
it, and you could measure the voltage on that pin. Connect the
ground of the voltmeter to a lug on an I/O connector
on the back of the computer, to avoid the chances of
shorting the meter probes together (big sparks).

If you don't own a voltmeter, then it is a tough call to
make, whether to invest in another power supply or not.
If you have another power supply lying around, try swapping
it, and see if the +3.3V improves.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Tim]

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Don't forget that some HDD's can make a beeping like noise when they have
crashed.

It would go Beep shuffle shuffle shuffle click click click Beep. The Beep
was more a modulated corrugated iron type noise - don't listen too closely
and it sounds like a beep, listen closely and its more a fast series of
zips...

So technical!

- Tim



"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-2707040147060001@192.168.1.177...
> In article <Xns953369A752BFsawickiipocztaonetpl@127.0.0.1>, Ignacy Sawicki
> <spam@isbad.com> wrote:
>
>> nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote in
>> news:nospam-2707040026100001@192.168.1.177:
>>
>> [Hardrives slow and beeping]
>>
>> > And, if you examine the Hardware Monitor page in the BIOS, how
>> > are your power supply voltages ? It could be that +5V is low,
>> > and that is upsetting the drives. In the Asus group, we get more
>> > power supply failures, than motherboard failures, so check that
>> > first. ATX power supplies tend to regulate to +/- 5%, so the 5V
>> > is only allowed to drop to 4.75V or go as high as 5.25V. If the
>> > power supply is off by 10%, i.e. 4.5V, the disk drive controller
>> > may have a problem with that.
>> >
>> > If the power looks good, then go back to blaming the motherboard.
>> > RMA if there is any warranty left.
>>
>> The voltages are a bit out, but the 5V seems fine:
>>
>> 12V 12.128
>> 5V 4.977
>> 3.3V 3.072
>> VCore 1.825 (the BIOS is trying to get 1.75V here)
>>
>> Could the 3.3V be at fault?
>
> The hard drive is powered by +12V and +5V, so +3.3V doesn't
> affect it directly. But the 3.3V does power a lot of chips,
> and it could be indirectly affecting things. If you own a
> voltmeter, it wouldn't hurt to grab the 6 pin AUX connector,
> if your power supply has one, because it has a 3.3V pin on
> it, and you could measure the voltage on that pin. Connect the
> ground of the voltmeter to a lug on an I/O connector
> on the back of the computer, to avoid the chances of
> shorting the meter probes together (big sparks).
>
> If you don't own a voltmeter, then it is a tough call to
> make, whether to invest in another power supply or not.
> If you have another power supply lying around, try swapping
> it, and see if the +3.3V improves.
>
> HTH,
> Paul