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Desktop Vendors Not Keen on Using Chrome OS

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November 10, 2011 8:35:45 PM

desktop's not so much, it might be a good choice for net tops or lightweight all in one computers.
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November 10, 2011 8:42:47 PM

Before Google pushes out Chrome OS they need to lobby to the wireless/Big Telephone companies to lower their their 3G/4G bandwidth prices. Right now Verizon is charging $30 for a measly 2GB/month connection even over LTE. I would assume that since a cloud based OS such as Chrome OS would likely eat through those limits very quickly.

I am not necessarily suggesting going back to unlimited data bandwidth (although that would be nice) but 2GB a month for $30 is way over priced.
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November 10, 2011 8:43:29 PM

Seriously, I don't want cloud. What's mine is mine.
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November 10, 2011 8:48:50 PM

otacon72"lack of virus issues"...um because Chrome OS doesn't run anything of importance and it has maybe .01% market share. If Linux can't muster more than .1% share who on earth thinks Chrome OS will ever be mainstream.


Yeah, lets forget about 90% of the worlds supercomputers and the millions of websites and servers which run Linux. Lets also forget about Android which is based on Linux and is the most used consumer mobile OS ahead of both WinMo7 and iOS combined. Yeah Linux will never be mainstream.
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November 10, 2011 8:56:22 PM

phatboeYeah, lets forget about 90% of the worlds supercomputers and the millions of websites and servers which run Linux. Lets also forget about Android which is based on Linux and is the most used consumer mobile OS ahead of both WinMo7 and iOS combined. Yeah Linux will never be mainstream.


Agreed, linux wonderful for what it is and is everywhere... EXCEPT the desktop PC market. A huge hurtle is DirectX. Microsoft did a wonderful job of locking down the gaming market with dirextX, they're good at business.
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November 10, 2011 9:29:35 PM

So, you make a lighweight Linux distribution, and then give it the gimmick that most of it's applications are stored up on the cloud. Everyone hates it. Casual users hate it, power users hate it, home users, enterprise uses. It's like universally hated... it's hated so much, that it's actually impressive how much it's hated. A couple desktop venders try it out for giggles, and they sell hardly any units because the idea just sucks.

What do?
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November 10, 2011 9:49:15 PM

For now, the cloud is a waste of time, particularly with phone companies charging so damn much for data. If it's going to work AT ALL, we NEED AFFORDABLE unlimited plans.
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November 10, 2011 9:53:23 PM

Reminds me of an old familiar OS. I just forgot what it is. Let me think for a while... Oh yeah!!!

Mac OS X

Sure looks like Mac OS X.
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November 10, 2011 10:02:08 PM

chumlySeriously, I don't want cloud. What's mine is mine.


This is indeed the bottom line.

I will never switch from saving/accessing my programs or files to some cloud who knows where.
I prefer to have them on my own hard drive.

Need a copy of X or Y?
That's what backups are for.
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November 10, 2011 10:14:48 PM

I tried using their Chromium OS a while back but it was over my head, I couldn't even figure out how to install it. Hopefully this Chrome OS is a little more friendly to the tech enthusiast, and not just the tech professional. If so, I'd totally give it a try on an old laptop. May breathe some new life into it, who knows?
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November 10, 2011 10:17:44 PM

otacon72"lack of virus issues"...um because Chrome OS doesn't run anything of importance and it has maybe .01% market share. If Linux can't muster more than .1% share who on earth thinks Chrome OS will ever be mainstream.


i do...

most people use a computer for internet access, watching a youtube video, and maybe writing a document.

taking out windows would reduce pc cost by what 100$

so long as chrome os is a fully featured chrome browser, as in everything it can do in windows it can do in chrome, the vast majority of people can switch to it tomorrow and barely notice a difference.

if chrome os took it a step further and incorporated opengl, and google payed to make opengl versions of top games, chrome os may take off faster than a windows because im assuming chrome os is VERY light weight compared to a windows, and opengl wont force a 150-300$ upgrade to your pc ever (aside from graphics cards, but not an os)
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November 10, 2011 10:19:42 PM

Cloud computing is someone telling you they want control over what you do, and telling you it's a good thing for you. Something about it makes me more than a little uncomfortable, not the least of which is why they want that control in the first place.
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November 10, 2011 10:26:21 PM

Squash that BS, Microsoft! Death to the cloud!
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November 10, 2011 10:31:40 PM

alidani do... most people use a computer for internet access, watching a youtube video, and maybe writing a document. taking out windows would reduce pc cost by what 100$so long as chrome os is a fully featured chrome browser, as in everything it can do in windows it can do in chrome, the vast majority of people can switch to it tomorrow and barely notice a difference. if chrome os took it a step further and incorporated opengl, and google payed to make opengl versions of top games, chrome os may take off faster than a windows because im assuming chrome os is VERY light weight compared to a windows, and opengl wont force a 150-300$ upgrade to your pc ever (aside from graphics cards, but not an os)


Yes, ChromeOS could reduce the initial pc cost....but it far exceeds that initial cost in extra services that are required to make it usable. ChromeOS requires an internet connection.

Since Linux supports OpenGL and ChromeOS is linux based, it would be stupid for Google to remove OpenGL support.
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November 10, 2011 10:56:02 PM

Looks a lot like gOS.
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November 10, 2011 11:07:29 PM

Google is everywhere nowadays.
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November 10, 2011 11:16:31 PM

sykozisYes, ChromeOS could reduce the initial pc cost....but it far exceeds that initial cost in extra services that are required to make it usable. ChromeOS requires an internet connection.Since Linux supports OpenGL and ChromeOS is linux based, it would be stupid for Google to remove OpenGL support.


i thought chrome os was the chrome browser but turned into an os...

you also have to read what i posted, most people are getting a computer for net use. they already have a net connection.

also i thought chrome os worked offline, it just doesnt sync till online.
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November 10, 2011 11:22:21 PM

I think most people in IT have abused their power every now and then. Not to do anything really, but just for curiosities sake.

So no thanks Cloud. I'd rather entrust my data to a 10 year old HDD at the brink of failure than any reliable cloud system. No data is pretty bad. But data in the wrong hands is far worse. And the wrong hands are all hands not my own.
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November 10, 2011 11:50:20 PM

If Google can make COS easy so non-tech people can install it then it will take off.
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November 11, 2011 12:18:45 AM

internet is'nt cheap enough for cloud.......and i dont see COS winning where proper distributions like Ubuntu,Fedora have failed.
One must remember two things, a free OS will not generate extra revenue for the vendor(in comparison to Windows)......and Microsoft Office has a monopoly in office enviroments, with few alternatives for sharepoint/onenote etc.
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November 11, 2011 12:19:26 AM

and also, HDD/SSD ftw!!!!!
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November 11, 2011 1:44:26 AM

Free: Ubuntu and other flavors of Linux are free too.
Lack of Virus: Again, look above.
Fast boot: Again, look above.

In short, Chrome OS has nothing over Linux. Then there's the security/privacy issue with Google at the helm too.
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November 11, 2011 1:56:52 AM

I though it was because the manufacturer could not stuff their bloatware in it.
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November 11, 2011 2:31:28 AM

The concept is nice, but in practice I dont think that people will be moving as much as Google invisions into the cloud. I do use Google Docs, it works great for field reports and papers, I can type it up on my desktop at home, proof read on my notebook before class, and give one more look over on my phone before printing it up on the schools computer. Vary conveniant way to NOT forget my homework :) 

However there are some things I dont like about it. I dont see myself putting any personal information on the web I just dont trust the cloud (remember sony ), there font list is sparce, and it dosent feel as refined as an experience compared to installed local apps... O ya the web connect thing blows to, which means that I will never use it for anything significantly important beyond a term paper, or the occaional E-Mail.

If they expect us to migrate they need a streamlined look that we would pay for, a better way to deal with bad web connections, and a security set up that they would back up with CASH if it where to be infeltrated. till then I dont see myself branching away from dedicated installation, and local backups. I do think there is some potential there, just not enought to significantly warent a change in my computer prefrences or habilts.
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November 11, 2011 5:05:18 AM

Nobody wants shitty Cloud Computers.
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November 11, 2011 5:19:55 AM

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Agreed, linux wonderful for what it is and is everywhere... EXCEPT the desktop PC market. A huge hurtle is DirectX. Microsoft did a wonderful job of locking down the gaming market with dirextX, they're good at business.


Actually the problem are the software makers. If they got their head out of their bums they'd start using OpenGL. The Kronos group has done a fanastic job in the past few years keeping it on top of the curve. It's not Linux's fault that most developers aren't willing to leave Visual Studio.. OPENGL for the win.
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November 11, 2011 11:53:19 AM

This will never work because Google offers no support, not even for paying customers. I had a Google account that I couldn't access and there was no official support from Google. The best I could do was to research the issue for hours and post pleas for help where ever I could. After a few months I finally found a solution, but that's just not going to work for consumers or the enterprise. Sorry Google, your stuff just doesn't always work and you can't turn your back to the people who use your products.
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November 11, 2011 12:20:06 PM

Pretty much the problem with cloud computing is ISP's being greedy and stupid government laws meaning they've to take responsibility for idiots pirating on their networks. Here your lucky to find an open or unlocked wi-fi hotspot and if you find one that you happen to have "overpaid" credit for, its horrendously slow. the uni wi-fi allowed smart phones to connect and dropped from 400kbps to 40kbps, its practically unusable if the router even allows you to connect! I could use mobile data but since the data i've already paid for isnt allowed to be used for tethering and any extra outside my allowance is insanely expensive its not worth it.
the atrix comes close to solving the tethering problem IMO. if the webdocks where say £100, came with onlive, and LTE was available in the UK I'd currently be raping "3's" data network with offers unlimited data for £3 extra a month or even giff gaff that offers unlimited data and texts for £10 a month with no fair use policy.
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November 11, 2011 12:22:09 PM

Oh forgot to add, I've yet to see a chrome book in the UK. Heck, ive yet to see any llano laptops either. PC world did have one A4equiped laptop tho it was an HP. Wouldn't buy it if you paid me to.
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November 11, 2011 4:07:53 PM

alidani do... most people use a computer for internet access, watching a youtube video, and maybe writing a document. taking out windows would reduce pc cost by what 100$so long as chrome os is a fully featured chrome browser, as in everything it can do in windows it can do in chrome, the vast majority of people can switch to it tomorrow and barely notice a difference. if chrome os took it a step further and incorporated opengl, and google payed to make opengl versions of top games, chrome os may take off faster than a windows because im assuming chrome os is VERY light weight compared to a windows, and opengl wont force a 150-300$ upgrade to your pc ever (aside from graphics cards, but not an os)

Why wouldn't people notice a difference, especially when they have a game they want to play or expensive software they need like auto cad or adobe photo shop. I know there are open source alternatives but whose going to take the time to learn those programs.
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November 11, 2011 9:48:07 PM

shafe88Why wouldn't people notice a difference, especially when they have a game they want to play or expensive software they need like auto cad or adobe photo shop. I know there are open source alternatives but whose going to take the time to learn those programs.


and the average person who uses the computer uses photoshop? cad? or even plays a game that isnt web based
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February 22, 2012 7:05:31 PM

I think we are a long way away from relying on the internet for cloud computing. Private home & business clouds on the other hand I think are not only feasible but likely.
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