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Ghost is a valuable addition. Test your DOS/USB compatibility before you
decide to buy it.
But there is another possibility. Use a network share. Run USB hard drive
attached to any network PC (desktop, laptop or server) and share it. Then,
Ghost image your client PC HD to that network share.
"Nick Michell" <nickmATavnetYourHat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hello Bob,
>
> No problem. I'm with you on the age thing - I'm an old canine trying
> to learn some new thingies.
>
> Interesting that you use both Ghost and PM. Perhaps I can pick your
> brains on this. First the background: -
> I've been using PM4 to copy partitions (OS's at various states)
> between internal hdds to aid s/w development. My other hat is as a Mr
> Fixit for domestic PC users. For this, I've been using an ancient
> external Zip 100mb parallel in DOS mode to copy user data prior to
> rebuilding a dead PC. ("Backups? Oh yes - I backup to the hard drive
> every year." is a standard scenario.). Problem with that approach is
> that all file names get converted to 8.3 format (the standard when I
> started <g>).
>
> I recently decided to drag myself into the 21st century and combine
> both requirements, bought an external USB hdd and researched PM-like
> utilities (not in enough depth, obviously). I did consider Ghost but
> decided to stick with the devil I know (with some trepidation, after a
> recent encounter with NIS 2004 - same acquiring company involved, I
> think? Why can't they leave well enough alone?).
>
> So, with the above in mind, do you think Ghost would be a good
> addition to my arsenal, if only to get around the DOS/USB issue? What
> version do you use? Does Ghost work with USB1, by the way?
>
> Thanks,
> Nick Michell
>
> PS
> I'm still puzzled by the PM8/Win2k USB DOS access - perhaps Win2k DOS
> is, like XP, not "real" DOS but emulated.
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:38:00 -0400, "Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Embarrassing admission time:
> >
> >I was thinking of Norton Ghost rather than PM 8.0. (I use both.) Ghost
> >supports external USB and 1394 devices from its DOS boot mode. (I don't
> >think that Symantec has purchased PowerQuest figured in my confusion.) I
> >guess that PM does not support USB from a DOS boot.
> >
> >Sorry about that. I'd recommend Ghost for copying a partition, although
it's
> >not free. (Ghost was a good product before Symantec acquired it, and it
> >doesn't seem to have suffered too badly under their ownership.) It can be
> >had quite cheaply in the gray market (OEM versions sold as retail).
> >
> >As we age, memory is the second thing to go. (I forget the first.)
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Bob Kn.
> >
> >"Nick Michell" <nickmATavnetYourHat.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:06ihn0t96uslqkv36dkgrr80p4k8d782qj@4ax.com...
> >> Hello Bob,
> >>
> >> Ahh! I assumed the message was referring to the internal hdd; from
> >> what you say, it's talking about the external hdd.
> >>
> >> I can't find the check box you mention - when you say "running PM" do
> >> you mean "installing PM"?
> >>
> >> I looked at the PM8 Help for USB refs, and found the following: -
> >>
> >> "PartitionMagic supports external USB, USB2, and FireWire hard drives
> >> under Windows. Operations that are executed in boot mode are not
> >> supported on these devices. You can see if an operation will be
> >> performed in boot mode by clicking View > Operations Pending. If an
> >> operation displays with the boot mode icon, it will not work on a USB,
> >> USB2, or FireWire drive. <snip>."
> >>
> >> The pending operation does have the boot mode icon (as the operation
> >> is being performed on the current live partition). The puzzle now is
> >> that I've successfully done this (copied partitions from internal hdd
> >> to external hdd via USB) on another PC in boot mode.
> >>
> >> For the record: -
> >> PC1: Dell XPS Dimension, Win2k, PM8 - Boot Mode copy okay.
> >> PC2; Dell Optiplex, Win 98, PM8 - Boot Mode copy fails.
> >>
> >> Is it, perhaps, a Win98/Win2k issue?
> >>
> >> Perhaps I'll have to contact PowerQuest TechSupp, as the message
> >> suggests, but I *really* don't want to go down that route ["Have you
> >> tried re-installing Windows/PM"; "Sounds like a hardware problem -
> >> contact WestDig"; "What did you have for breakfast?" <g>]
> >>
> >> Nick Michell.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:43:25 -0400, "Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Nick,
> >>>
> >>>Have you set up PM8 to load its USB drivers when it boots into DOS mode
to
> >>>do the copy? There's a check box on one of the screens that comes up in
> >>>the
> >>>process of running PM. It's similar to what you must do when creating
> >>>floppies to run PM.
> >>>
> >>>If you have loaded the USB drivers, there might be an issue with driver
> >>>compatibility. I've used PM8 with an external IEEE1394 (Firewire)
drive.
> >>>The
> >>>1394 drivers supplied by PM don't seem to like the native 1394 ports on
my
> >>>mainboard (Asus A8V, Athlon64 system with a Via K8T800Pro chipset). I
have
> >>>been able to use the 1394 port on my Audigy 2 soundcard, though.
> >>>
> >>>I know that isn't really relevant to your USB problem. Further, Dell
> >>>traditionally uses Intel hardware, so I'd hope that compatibility
problems
> >>>would be unlikely.
> >>>
> >>>HTH.
> >>>
> >>>Bob Knowlden
> >>>
> >>>Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nick Michell
> >> Doff Your Hat for personal reply.
> >
>
>
> --
> Nick Michell
> Doff Your Hat for personal reply.
on a Dell Optiplex to
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