Can you install a Power Supply Incorrectly?

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I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III suddenly
died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing the Power
Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I bought a 300W
ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but I didn't think
much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed plug to the mobo
connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper size connector.
Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive (Maxtor 20GB),
then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all; I've tried putting
the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for want of a better
word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).

Of course I don't know what caused the original PS to fail but it WAS almost
six years old. What I'm asking is if there was some way I could be at fault
for this or if the new PS (I know, I bought a cheap one, about $30) would
most likely be the problem.

This will teach me, but WHAT? Buy only expensive PSs? How could one check?
This happened AS SOON AS I switched the power back on.

Any information to help me avoid a repeat of this debacle would be
appreciated. The hard disk had some stuff that I really need, although I DO
have fairly recent backups. The problem is that it had a DOS partition set
up with a fairly complicated Clarion/LPM configuration that I KNOW will be
almost impossible to duplicate.

Thanks.

=NLK=
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    Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    > I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III suddenly
    > died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing the Power
    > Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I bought a 300W
    > ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but I didn't think
    > much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed plug to the mobo
    > connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper size connector.
    > Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive (Maxtor 20GB),
    > then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all; I've tried putting
    > the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for want of a better
    > word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).
    >
    > Of course I don't know what caused the original PS to fail but it WAS almost
    > six years old. What I'm asking is if there was some way I could be at fault
    > for this or if the new PS (I know, I bought a cheap one, about $30) would
    > most likely be the problem.
    >
    > This will teach me, but WHAT? Buy only expensive PSs? How could one check?
    > This happened AS SOON AS I switched the power back on.
    >
    > Any information to help me avoid a repeat of this debacle would be
    > appreciated. The hard disk had some stuff that I really need, although I DO
    > have fairly recent backups. The problem is that it had a DOS partition set
    > up with a fairly complicated Clarion/LPM configuration that I KNOW will be
    > almost impossible to duplicate.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > =NLK=
    >
    >
    It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.

    FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.

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    Hmmm, that's a thought (not that it would do me any good, I'm sure there's
    no liability if they wire it incorrectly and I won't sue myself :) ). I also
    have the distinct impression it's not just the Drive that's fried but also
    the mobo, only because it won't even enter the boot sequence.

    I probably wouldn't even bother taking it in to the repair center to be
    certain except that I'm hoping, somehow, the Maxtor can be salvaged.
    Otherwise I'd just buy a new computer (can get one with much better
    specs/performance for a few hundred).

    Thanks for taking the time to post and give me some info.

    =NLK=

    "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    news:41CDB422.3060400@prodigy.net...
    > Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    >> I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III
    >> suddenly died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing
    >> the Power Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I
    >> bought a 300W ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but
    >> I didn't think much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed
    >> plug to the mobo connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper
    >> size connector. Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive
    >> (Maxtor 20GB), then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all;
    >> I've tried putting the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for
    >> want of a better word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).
    >>
    >> Of course I don't know what caused the original PS to fail but it WAS
    >> almost six years old. What I'm asking is if there was some way I could be
    >> at fault for this or if the new PS (I know, I bought a cheap one, about
    >> $30) would most likely be the problem.
    >>
    >> This will teach me, but WHAT? Buy only expensive PSs? How could one
    >> check? This happened AS SOON AS I switched the power back on.
    >>
    >> Any information to help me avoid a repeat of this debacle would be
    >> appreciated. The hard disk had some stuff that I really need, although I
    >> DO have fairly recent backups. The problem is that it had a DOS partition
    >> set up with a fairly complicated Clarion/LPM configuration that I KNOW
    >> will be almost impossible to duplicate.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> =NLK=
    >>
    >>
    > It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    > it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    > wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.
    >
    > FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    > line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.
    >
    > --
    > The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
    > minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
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    Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    > Hmmm, that's a thought (not that it would do me any good, I'm sure there's
    > no liability if they wire it incorrectly and I won't sue myself :) ). I also
    > have the distinct impression it's not just the Drive that's fried but also
    > the mobo, only because it won't even enter the boot sequence.
    >
    > I probably wouldn't even bother taking it in to the repair center to be
    > certain except that I'm hoping, somehow, the Maxtor can be salvaged.
    > Otherwise I'd just buy a new computer (can get one with much better
    > specs/performance for a few hundred).
    >
    > Thanks for taking the time to post and give me some info.
    >
    > =NLK=

    Depending on precisely WHAT is fried, it might be possible to substitute
    the electronics board from a good drive and recover the data. However,
    if the drive motor and/or head electronics are fried, recovery will be
    impractical for all but extremely valuable data.

    >
    > "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:41CDB422.3060400@prodigy.net...
    >
    >>Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    >>
    >>>I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III
    >>>suddenly died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing
    >>>the Power Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I
    >>>bought a 300W ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but
    >>>I didn't think much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed
    >>>plug to the mobo connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper
    >>>size connector. Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive
    >>>(Maxtor 20GB), then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all;
    >>>I've tried putting the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for
    >>>want of a better word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).
    >>>
    >>>Of course I don't know what caused the original PS to fail but it WAS
    >>>almost six years old. What I'm asking is if there was some way I could be
    >>>at fault for this or if the new PS (I know, I bought a cheap one, about
    >>>$30) would most likely be the problem.
    >>>
    >>>This will teach me, but WHAT? Buy only expensive PSs? How could one
    >>>check? This happened AS SOON AS I switched the power back on.
    >>>
    >>>Any information to help me avoid a repeat of this debacle would be
    >>>appreciated. The hard disk had some stuff that I really need, although I
    >>>DO have fairly recent backups. The problem is that it had a DOS partition
    >>>set up with a fairly complicated Clarion/LPM configuration that I KNOW
    >>>will be almost impossible to duplicate.
    >>>
    >>>Thanks.
    >>>
    >>>=NLK=
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    >>it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    >>wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.
    >>
    >>FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    >>line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.
    >>
    >>--
    >>The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
    >>minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
    >
    >
    >


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    Norman L. Kleinberg <nlk(the numberone)@optonlinedotnet>
    wrote in message news:KFizd.5512$of2.4180@fe08.lga...

    > Hmmm, that's a thought (not that it would do me any good, I'm sure there's no
    > liability if they wire it incorrectly

    Corse they are liable if they wired it incorrectly.

    > and I won't sue myself :) ). I also have the distinct impression it's not just
    > the Drive that's fried but also the mobo, only because it won't even enter the
    > boot sequence.

    Or maybe the new power supply isnt starting
    because the motherboard has failed.

    > I probably wouldn't even bother taking it in to the repair center to be
    > certain except that I'm hoping, somehow, the Maxtor can be salvaged.

    It may work fine in a different PC.

    > Otherwise I'd just buy a new computer (can get one with much better
    > specs/performance for a few hundred).

    Sure.

    > Thanks for taking the time to post and give me some info.


    > "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:41CDB422.3060400@prodigy.net...
    >> Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    >>> I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III suddenly
    >>> died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing the Power
    >>> Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I bought a 300W
    >>> ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but I didn't think
    >>> much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed plug to the mobo
    >>> connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper size connector.
    >>> Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive (Maxtor 20GB),
    >>> then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all; I've tried putting
    >>> the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for want of a better
    >>> word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).
    >>>
    >>> Of course I don't know what caused the original PS to fail but it WAS almost
    >>> six years old. What I'm asking is if there was some way I could be at fault
    >>> for this or if the new PS (I know, I bought a cheap one, about $30) would
    >>> most likely be the problem.
    >>>
    >>> This will teach me, but WHAT? Buy only expensive PSs? How could one check?
    >>> This happened AS SOON AS I switched the power back on.
    >>>
    >>> Any information to help me avoid a repeat of this debacle would be
    >>> appreciated. The hard disk had some stuff that I really need, although I DO
    >>> have fairly recent backups. The problem is that it had a DOS partition set
    >>> up with a fairly complicated Clarion/LPM configuration that I KNOW will be
    >>> almost impossible to duplicate.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>
    >>> =NLK=
    >>>
    >>>
    >> It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    >> it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    >> wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.
    >>
    >> FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    >> line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.
    >>
    >> --
    >> The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
    >> minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.
    >
    >
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    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in news:33644aF3tvr3tU1
    @individual.net:

    > Corse

    Is that a typo or a real English word?
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    Rod:

    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:33644aF3tvr3tU1@individual.net...
    >
    > Norman L. Kleinberg <nlk(the numberone)@optonlinedotnet>
    > wrote in message news:KFizd.5512$of2.4180@fe08.lga...
    >
    >-snip-
    >
    >>I also have the distinct impression it's not just
    >> the Drive that's fried but also the mobo, only because it won't even
    >> enter the boot sequence.
    >
    > Or maybe the new power supply isnt starting
    > because the motherboard has failed.

    Well the fan on the new PS IS starting, just don't get any signal to the
    monitor. I suppose it COULD be the PS itself isn't supplying power but, as I
    say, the fan
    does go on.

    >> I probably wouldn't even bother taking it in to the repair center to be
    >> certain except that I'm hoping, somehow, the Maxtor can be salvaged.
    >
    > It may work fine in a different PC.
    >
    I tried it in one of my other PCs. Won't boot from it and can't be seen as a
    slave either
    (unfortunately).

    >> Otherwise I'd just buy a new computer (can get one with much better
    >> specs/performance for a few hundred).
    >
    > Sure.
    >
    >> Thanks for taking the time to post and give me some info.
    >
    >
    >> "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    >> news:41CDB422.3060400@prodigy.net...
    >>> Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    >>>> I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III
    >>>> suddenly died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try
    >>>> replacing the Power Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very
    >>>> expensive. I bought a 300W ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old
    >>>> one said 2.01 but I didn't think much of it), installed it and ran the
    >>>> 20 receptacle keyed plug to the mobo connector and hooked up my disk
    >>>> drives with the proper size connector. Turned things on and it wouldn't
    >>>> boot from the hard drive (Maxtor 20GB), then a burning smell. Now of
    >>>> course it won't boot at all; I've tried putting the Maxtor in another
    >>>> computer and it seems to be, for want of a better word, fried (i.e.
    >>>> computer can't see or boot from it).
    >>>>
    >>>>-snip-
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>>> =NLK=
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    >>> it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    >>> wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.
    >>>
    >>> FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    >>> line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.
    >>>
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    Euan Kerr wrote:
    > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in news:33644aF3tvr3tU1
    > @individual.net:
    >
    >
    >>Corse
    >
    >
    > Is that a typo or a real English word?

    I think it's a typo -- "Of course," (idiom)

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    CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    news:41CDE49C.2080604@prodigy.net...
    > Euan Kerr wrote
    >> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

    >>> Corse

    >> Is that a typo or a real English word?

    > I think it's a typo -- "Of course," (idiom)

    Its not a typo, its a deliberate informal use of words.

    I dont bother with apostrophes most of the time either.
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    Rod Speed wrote:
    > CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:41CDE49C.2080604@prodigy.net...
    >
    >>Euan Kerr wrote
    >>
    >>>Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >
    >>>>Corse
    >
    >
    >>>Is that a typo or a real English word?
    >
    >
    >>I think it's a typo -- "Of course," (idiom)
    >
    >
    > Its not a typo, its a deliberate informal use of words.

    Actually, it's apparently a deliberate informal use of a non-word,
    or perhaps a "word-wannabe." <g>
    >
    > I dont bother with apostrophes most of the time either.

    I noticed.
    >
    >


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    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in news:336b9uF3o1349U1@individual.net:

    >
    > CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:41CDE49C.2080604@prodigy.net...
    >> Euan Kerr wrote
    >>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >>>> Corse
    >
    >>> Is that a typo or a real English word?
    >
    >
    > Its not a typo, its a deliberate informal use of words.
    >
    > I dont bother with apostrophes most of the time either.
    >
    >
    Mmm. Linguistic pioneering or retrofitted justifications for
    illiteracy?
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    Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote in message
    news:Xns95CB3732A1F0FlSxxx@130.133.1.4...
    > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >> CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote
    >>> Euan Kerr wrote
    >>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

    >>>>> Corse

    >>>> Is that a typo or a real English word?

    >> Its not a typo, its a deliberate informal use of words.

    >> I dont bother with apostrophes most of the time either.

    > Mmm. Linguistic pioneering

    Not really, plenty of others use other informal words too.

    Some of them do end up in the dictionary over time.

    > or retrofitted justifications for illiteracy?

    Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.

    I choose to use ys instead of the ies form with words like nastys too.
    Basically because I consider the ies form to be silly.

    You get to like it or lump it.
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    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in news:336ituF3sol55U1
    @individual.net:

    > Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.
    >

    Could be a result of illiteracy:

    Can't spell - make up your own.

    Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.

    Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all ...ys.
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    Norman L. Kleinberg <nlk(the numberone)@optonlinedotnet>
    wrote in message news:fXmzd.5534$rG4.4414@fe08.lga...
    > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >> Norman L. Kleinberg <nlk(the numberone)@optonlinedotnet> wrote

    >>> I also have the distinct impression it's not just the Drive that's fried but
    >>> also the mobo, only because it won't even enter the boot sequence.

    >> Or maybe the new power supply isnt starting
    >> because the motherboard has failed.

    > Well the fan on the new PS IS starting, just don't get any signal to the
    > monitor.

    OK.

    > I suppose it COULD be the PS itself isn't supplying power but, as I say, the
    > fan does go on.

    The fan is normally powered by the 12V rail in the power
    supply and the supply produces 2 other important rails so
    all the fan proves is that the 12V rail is supplied.

    >>> I probably wouldn't even bother taking it in to the repair center to be
    >>> certain except that I'm hoping, somehow, the Maxtor can be salvaged.

    >> It may work fine in a different PC.

    > I tried it in one of my other PCs. Won't boot from it and can't be seen as a
    > slave either (unfortunately).

    OK, looks like the original PS failure did kill it then.

    It may well have killed the motherboard too.

    >>> Otherwise I'd just buy a new computer (can get one with much better
    >>> specs/performance for a few hundred).

    >> Sure.

    >>> Thanks for taking the time to post and give me some info.


    >>> "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:41CDB422.3060400@prodigy.net...
    >>>> Norman L. Kleinberg wrote:
    >>>>> I don't know if this will do any good but my 5 year old Pentium III
    >>>>> suddenly died (click the button, nothing) so I thought I'd try replacing
    >>>>> the Power Supply (250W ATX type), since they're not very expensive. I
    >>>>> bought a 300W ATX (it said 2.03 compliant while the old one said 2.01 but
    >>>>> I didn't think much of it), installed it and ran the 20 receptacle keyed
    >>>>> plug to the mobo connector and hooked up my disk drives with the proper
    >>>>> size connector. Turned things on and it wouldn't boot from the hard drive
    >>>>> (Maxtor 20GB), then a burning smell. Now of course it won't boot at all;
    >>>>> I've tried putting the Maxtor in another computer and it seems to be, for
    >>>>> want of a better word, fried (i.e. computer can't see or boot from it).
    >>>>>
    >>>>>-snip-
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> =NLK=
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> It's not easy to plug a disk drive power connector in backwards, but
    >>>> it's possible with enough force. It's also possible the connector was
    >>>> wired incorrectly by the power supply manufacturer.
    >>>>
    >>>> FWIW, the (normally yellow, but electrons don't abide by colors) 12V
    >>>> line is usually closest to the outside edge of the drive.
    >>>>
    >
    >
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    Thanks, Rod, for the time you took to help.

    I think I'll just keep the Maxtor on the side, set up a DOS partition on
    another machine and try to work with my backups. If I have problems I'll
    investigate salvaging the data on the drive. No point in spending $100 to
    have the tech tell me everything's fried.

    I feel like I'd like to check that PS to see if IT'S the cause, but really
    don't have the knowledge and it would probably take too much of my time.

    I WILL return the PS, though, and am just waiting for the clerk to tell me
    they don't take back components. :)

    =NLK=
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    Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote in message
    news:Xns95CB1FB343C62FlSxxx@130.133.1.4...
    > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

    >> Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.

    > Could be a result of illiteracy:

    Nope.

    > Can't spell - make up your own.

    Doesnt explain the word corse that lit your fire.

    > Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.

    I know where they go, and do use them correctly at times.

    > Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all ...ys.

    Or choose to do what makes more sense.

    And get the other stuff right like the choice between their
    and theyre etc so even someone as stupid as you should
    be able to work out that it isnt illiteracy but my choice.

    Its also rather amusing dangling a bait
    in front of pathetically anal fools too.
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    Rod Speed wrote:
    >
    > Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote in message
    > news:Xns95CB1FB343C62FlSxxx@130.133.1.4...
    > > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    > >> Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.
    >
    > > Could be a result of illiteracy:
    >
    > Nope.
    >
    > > Can't spell - make up your own.
    >
    > Doesnt explain the word corse that lit your fire.
    >
    > > Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.
    >
    > I know where they go, and do use them correctly at times.
    >
    > > Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all ...ys.
    >
    > Or choose to do what makes more sense.
    >
    > And get the other stuff right like the choice between their
    > and theyre etc so even someone as stupid as you should
    > be able to work out that it isnt illiteracy but my choice.
    >
    > Its also rather amusing dangling a bait
    > in front of pathetically anal fools too.


    Hello, Rod:

    He just doesn't understand Australian, it seems. :-J


    Season's greetings,
    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
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    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote in message
    news:41CE786C.3C72F3A8@concentric.net...
    > Rod Speed wrote:
    >> Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote
    >>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

    >>>> Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.

    >>> Could be a result of illiteracy:

    >> Nope.

    >>> Can't spell - make up your own.

    >> Doesnt explain the word corse that lit your fire.

    >>> Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.

    >> I know where they go, and do use them correctly at times.

    >>> Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all ...ys.

    >> Or choose to do what makes more sense.

    >> And get the other stuff right like the choice between their
    >> and theyre etc so even someone as stupid as you should
    >> be able to work out that it isnt illiteracy but my choice.

    >> Its also rather amusing dangling a bait
    >> in front of pathetically anal fools too.

    > Hello, Rod:

    > He just doesn't understand Australian, it seems. :-J

    Yeah, just another pig ignorant pom |-)
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    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote in news:41CE786C.3C72F3A8
    @concentric.net:

    > Rod Speed wrote:
    >>
    >> Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote in message
    >> news:Xns95CB1FB343C62FlSxxx@130.133.1.4...
    >> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    >>
    >> >> Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.
    >>
    >> > Could be a result of illiteracy:
    >>
    >> Nope.
    >>
    >> > Can't spell - make up your own.
    >>
    >> Doesnt explain the word corse that lit your fire.
    >>
    >> > Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.
    >>
    >> I know where they go, and do use them correctly at times.
    >>
    >> > Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all
    ....ys.
    >>
    >> Or choose to do what makes more sense.
    >>
    >> And get the other stuff right like the choice between their
    >> and theyre etc so even someone as stupid as you should
    >> be able to work out that it isnt illiteracy but my choice.
    >>
    >> Its also rather amusing dangling a bait
    >> in front of pathetically anal fools too.
    >
    >
    > Hello, Rod:
    >
    > He just doesn't understand Australian, it seems. :-J
    >
    >
    > Season's greetings,
    > John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>


    My apologies, I didn't realise you were from a primitive Third
    World country.
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    "Ron Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >You get to like it or lump it.

    Hey Ron^Hd. Back to this name, I see. Your "Ron Reaugh" personae
    didn't last very long, this go-around...
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    Euan Kerr wrote:
    >
    > John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote in news:41CE786C.3C72F3A8
    > @concentric.net:
    >
    > > Rod Speed wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Euan Kerr <aaargh@invalid.jp> wrote in message
    > >> news:Xns95CB1FB343C62FlSxxx@130.133.1.4...
    > >> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
    > >>
    > >> >> Cant be illiteracy if its deliberate.
    > >>
    > >> > Could be a result of illiteracy:
    > >>
    > >> Nope.
    > >>
    > >> > Can't spell - make up your own.
    > >>
    > >> Doesnt explain the word corse that lit your fire.
    > >>
    > >> > Don't know where to put apostrophes - leave 'em out.
    > >>
    > >> I know where they go, and do use them correctly at times.
    > >>
    > >> > Can't do plurals of words ending in 'y' - make 'em all
    > ...ys.
    > >>
    > >> Or choose to do what makes more sense.
    > >>
    > >> And get the other stuff right like the choice between their
    > >> and theyre etc so even someone as stupid as you should
    > >> be able to work out that it isnt illiteracy but my choice.
    > >>
    > >> Its also rather amusing dangling a bait
    > >> in front of pathetically anal fools too.
    > >
    > >
    > > Hello, Rod:
    > >
    > > He just doesn't understand Australian, it seems. :-J
    > >
    > >
    > > Season's greetings,
    > > John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
    >
    > My apologies, I didn't realise you were from a primitive Third
    > World country.


    Hello,

    Actually, I'm in the USA, and Rod is in Australia...if you're going to
    troll, please get the facts straight, at least! <g>


    Season's greetings,
    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
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    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote:

    >if you're going to troll, please get the facts straight, at least! <g>

    Facts straight?? Appearently, you know little about trolling. 8)
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    John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote in
    news:41D0E3BB.ABAEA37E@concentric.net:

    > Actually, I'm in the USA

    So I was right then. And your lot mangle English as well.
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