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Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0 array?
Is this even possible?

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
Controller: On-chip ICH5R

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Previously Bob Davis <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
> Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0 array?
> Is this even possible?

Software-RAID: trivial, any SMART software that can do SATA
should be able to do it (unless it is a really dumb design).

Hardware-raid: Only doable via the manufacturers software.

> Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
> Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
> Controller: On-chip ICH5R

Fake-raid (what you have): Under Linux the smartmontools should
do it as soon as Linux gets SATA-smart support. No idea about other
OSes.

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"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:35n7spF4ogqmkU3@individual.net
> Previously Bob Davis <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
> > Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0 array?
> > Is this even possible?
>
> Software-RAID: trivial,

> any SMART software that can do SATA

Clueless.

> should be able to do it

> (unless it is a really dumb design).

Like not having the necessary driver support?

>
> Hardware-raid: Only doable via the manufacturers software.

Must be falling under that "really dumb" class then.
Again clueless.

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> > Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
> > Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
> > Controller: On-chip ICH5R
>
> Fake-raid (what you have):

Clueless again.

> Under Linux the smartmontools should do it as soon as Linux gets
> SATA-smart support.

> No idea about other OSes.

Like I said, utterly clueless.

>
> Arno
 
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"Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote in message news:F0kJd.371$1X.90@lakeread07
> Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0 array?

That would be
"Can any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0 array?"

> Is this even possible?

And the answer would be
"It is possible if the driver supports passing through S.M.A.R.T. data".
(Or has the hookup points to a driver extension that does same).

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> Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
> Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
> Controller: On-chip ICH5R
 
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"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Previously Bob Davis <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
>> Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0
>> array?
>> Is this even possible?
>
> Software-RAID: trivial, any SMART software that can do SATA
> should be able to do it (unless it is a really dumb design).
>
> Hardware-raid: Only doable via the manufacturers software.
>
>> Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
>> Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
>> Controller: On-chip ICH5R
>
> Fake-raid (what you have): Under Linux the smartmontools should
> do it as soon as Linux gets SATA-smart support. No idea about other
> OSes.

I would categorize my particular type of RAID as "hardware." I'm not sure
what you mean by "fake RAID." I run XP, not Linux.
 
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"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
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> "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:F0kJd.371$1X.90@lakeread07
>> Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0
>> array?
>
> That would be
> "Can any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0
> array?"
>
>> Is this even possible?
>
> And the answer would be
> "It is possible if the driver supports passing through S.M.A.R.T. data".
> (Or has the hookup points to a driver extension that does same).

I guess Intel hasn't gotten around to this functionality yet.

>> Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
>> Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
>> Controller: On-chip ICH5R
 
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Previously Bob Davis <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:

> "Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:35n7spF4ogqmkU3@individual.net...
>> Previously Bob Davis <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Does any software report SMART data from two SATA drives in a RAID0
>>> array?
>>> Is this even possible?
>>
>> Software-RAID: trivial, any SMART software that can do SATA
>> should be able to do it (unless it is a really dumb design).
>>
>> Hardware-raid: Only doable via the manufacturers software.
>>
>>> Mobo: Gigabyte GA-8KNXP
>>> Drives: 36gb x 2 Raptor
>>> Controller: On-chip ICH5R
>>
>> Fake-raid (what you have): Under Linux the smartmontools should
>> do it as soon as Linux gets SATA-smart support. No idea about other
>> OSes.

> I would categorize my particular type of RAID as "hardware." I'm not sure
> what you mean by "fake RAID." I run XP, not Linux.

"fakeraid" is software RAID with hardware support. That is what you
have. True hardware RAID does all the work on the card.

See here: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#fakeraid

In a sense software-RAID is also "fakeraid". The idea is that
the OS still sees individual disks, i.e. it is not an "array"
in hardware. One other problem with fakeraid is that is usually
cannot be accessed with different OSes. That issue does not exist
with true RAID, since all management information is hidden
from the OS by the controller.

The vendors just like to call their hardware supported software
RAID "hardware RAID", since it sounds better. But essentially it
is a marketing lie.

Arno
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