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In article <d0qlcm02jfc@news3.newsguy.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote:
>Al Dykes wrote:
>
>> In article <39bn8bF60rtp5U1@individual.net>,
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Chuck U. Farley" <chuckufarleynot@dyslexia.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Yt1Yd.20423$5T6.4499@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>>>> >More fool them. Makes a lot more sense for them to use modern PCs.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IME It's hard enough to get P-III-500 or better donations and these
>>>>> organizations have ZERO money for systems. Occasionally I'll ask them
>>>>> to buy a video card of a NIC if it will give them one more good
>>>>> machine. Ebay's great for this kind of stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> A cleanly setup w/98 machine is find for what these people need. In
>>>>> some circles I'd put in Linux on older hardware, but for legit reasons
>>>>> these people are a windows shop.
>>>>
>>>> For the applications that most of organizations are using, a P3 system
>>>> running 98 is more than adequate. It's not like they're doing video
>>>> rendering or massive spreadsheet recalcs. What a waste of money for
>>>> non-profits to go out and spend $500-1000 for a new box just to do word
>>>> processing, email, web surfing, etc.
>>>
>>>The problem aint the cpu, its the maintenance that dinosaurs require.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Win/98SE with all the patches and a HW firewall is OK from a
>> maintenance standpoint. Fresh installs are a big plus. I don't repair
>> a screwed up OS.
>
>Al, just a comment here--if I'm telling you something you already know, then
>ignore me.
>
>If you're not aware of <http://www.techsoup.com> you might want to check it
>out--they have links to all sorts of resources for nonprofits. Relevant
>specifically to this discussion they provide access to a Microsoft program
>by which a nonprofit (subject to certain restrictions that they spell out)
>can obtain up to 50 licenses for Windows 2K for $15 each, or upgrade
>licenses for $8 each, plus $25 for one copy of the CD for the OS. There
>are many other Microsoft products available on very good terms--2K3 Server
>Standard for example is $40 plus $6 each for Terminal Services CALs--this
>can be a very good solution if the nonprofit can afford one good powerful
>machine--it doesn't take much to be a Terminal Services client--you can do
>that with Windows 98 or with fairly minimal Linux boxen, and for many tasks
>a single Terminal Services box can support a surprising number of users.
>Office 2K3 is 20 bucks a seat.
>
>If you routinely set up donated boxen for nonprofits and do more than 50 a
>year there's another program that is aimed specifically at your situation,
>but you might have to jump through some hoops to prove eligibility.
>
>They provide access to similar programs from other vendors--for example your
>nonprofits can get 25 seats of Symantec Systemworks for 100 bucks and the
>renewal license is 32 bucks a year thereafter. The server-side products
>are also available.
>
>They also have Cisco hardware available.
>
>Note that all the dollar figures above are "administrative fees", not prices
>per se.
>
>--
>--John
>to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Thanks, I've looked at them from time to time but never did a deal. I
didn't look at the other programs. I'll take another look.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.
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