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Anonymous
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March 27, 2005 2:07:17 AM

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I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.

I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
each.

Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
drives even if they were not formatted.

What is my next step?

More about : drives visible windows device manager explorer

March 27, 2005 12:04:14 PM

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:17 -0800, Lady Margaret Thatcher
<Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote:

>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>
>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>each.
>
>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>drives even if they were not formatted.
>
>What is my next step?
>

Howdy,

I hesitate to ask, but...

Is there any possibility that in Explorer | Tools | Folder
Options | View you have Show Hidden Files turned OFF?

HTH,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 27, 2005 12:57:12 PM

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"Lady Margaret Thatcher" <Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote
in message news:egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com...
>
> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
> each.
>
> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
> drives even if they were not formatted.
>
This might happen if the disk does not spin up or is unreadable (the MBR).
You should verify the drives from SCSI setup or Bart's scsitool from a
floppy.
Related resources
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 27, 2005 9:39:09 PM

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Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:

>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>
>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>each.
>
>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>drives even if they were not formatted.
>
>What is my next step?
>
>
>
>
Hi,
Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
in SCSI BIOS?
I run all SCSI W2K as well.
Tony
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 3:42:30 AM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:04:14 -0500, Kenneth
<usenet@SPAMLESSsoleassociates.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:07:17 -0800, Lady Margaret Thatcher
><Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote:
>
>>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>>
>>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>>each.

>
>I hesitate to ask, but...
>
>Is there any possibility that in Explorer | Tools | Folder
>Options | View you have Show Hidden Files turned OFF?

No. I also mentioned that the Storage Management system tools can't
see the drives either.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 3:44:01 AM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:57:12 -0800, "Eric Gisin"
<ericgisin@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Lady Margaret Thatcher" <Was_at_10_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org> wrote
>in message news:egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com...
>>
>> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>> each.
>>
>> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>> drives even if they were not formatted.
>>
>This might happen if the disk does not spin up or is unreadable (the MBR).
>You should verify the drives from SCSI setup or Bart's scsitool from a
>floppy.

Thanks. That suggestion seems right on target. Time for another
visit to Bart L.'s web site.

This is slightly off topic, but what does this guy do for a living?
He seems to have put enormous amounts of time into his web site. It's
an amazing resource.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 3:45:48 AM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:39:09 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
>
>>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>>
>>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>>each.
>>
>>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>>drives even if they were not formatted.
>>
>>What is my next step?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Hi,
>Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
>in SCSI BIOS?
>I run all SCSI W2K as well.


>Tony

Tony, thanks. I mentioned above that I removed the two non-boot
drives, and replaced them with the new drives. Unless there is some
really weird mojo with the cables, then I have to assume that there
are no termination issues. My Tekram controller detects the drives
and their firmware rev. levels. It's Windows that is the problem.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 4:25:25 AM

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In article <egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
> I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
> Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>
> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
> each.
>
> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
> drives even if they were not formatted.
>
> What is my next step?
>

hi ,

are any partitions on this disks ? let me guess : extended file systems
?

if you insert a blank disk ( usually ) you can work in one straight line
til the formatted partition .

--
gruss , wolfgang
---<---@
gravity still lives
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 4:25:26 AM

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:25:25 +0200, wolfgang schneider
<schnusi@gmx.net> wrote:

>In article <egic419saq31iagt55kjvu3fn1fe400tln@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
>_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
>> I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>> Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>>
>> I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>> subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>> normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>> each.
>>
>> Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>> the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>> Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>> visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>> (Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>> drives even if they were not formatted.
>>
>> What is my next step?
>>
>
>hi ,
>
>are any partitions on this disks ? let me guess : extended file systems
>?
>
>if you insert a blank disk ( usually ) you can work in one straight line
>til the formatted partition .

Wolffang,

What do you mean by "Insert a blank disk?" Do you mean a floppy disk?
What do you mean by "work in one straight line?"

Danke Schoen
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 28, 2005 3:59:06 PM

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In article <rhdf415l77j9snf4kvds61q9k83tgle30e@4ax.com>, Was_at_10
_Downing_Street@bad_for_the_UK.org says...
>
> Wolffang,
>
> What do you mean by "Insert a blank disk?" Do you mean a floppy disk?
> What do you mean by "work in one straight line?"
>
> Danke Schoen
>

:-)

hi uppers ,

no floppy - i ment a brandnew hdd without any partition or else on it .
load w2k , go to "drive management" , write a signature to the new disks
, format them , eventually turn them into basic ( instead of dynamic )
drives . this can all be done in one line .

excuse my poor english please .

--
gruss , wolfgang
---<---@
gravity still lives
Anonymous
a b G Storage
March 29, 2005 7:51:06 PM

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Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:39:09 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Lady Margaret Thatcher wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I[m posting this question only after searching Google and the MS
>>>Knowledge Base. Thank you in advance for responding to this question.
>>>
>>>I have a Win 2000 system, self-assembled. Works great. Drive
>>>subsystem is SCSI based, using a Tekram 3900 U3W SCSI host adapter. I
>>>normally have three wide SCSI drives attached, either 36 or 72 GB
>>>each.
>>>
>>>Today, I tried to attach two new SCSI drives to my system by removing
>>>the two non-boot drives. I could see the newly attached drives in
>>>Device Manager, but _not_ in Explorer. The drives were also not
>>>visible in the Disk Management folder within Computer Management
>>>(Administrative Tasks cpl.), even though I would expect to see these
>>>drives even if they were not formatted.
>>>
>>>What is my next step?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>Took care of I/O cable of termination properly(very important)? Checked
>>in SCSI BIOS?
>>I run all SCSI W2K as well.
>
>
>
>>Tony
>
>
> Tony, thanks. I mentioned above that I removed the two non-boot
> drives, and replaced them with the new drives. Unless there is some
> really weird mojo with the cables, then I have to assume that there
> are no termination issues. My Tekram controller detects the drives
> and their firmware rev. levels. It's Windows that is the problem.
>
Hi,
Some times drive has id. jumpers and termination jumper. If the drives
are in the middle of chain, termination is of course not needed.
Tony
!