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Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony desktop. The
machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)

The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:

1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive letter, recovery
stuff??

2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"

3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS

---------------------------------------

What I want to do is

- Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
- Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive C:
- Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore the contents of
the "old Drive D:"

I seem to recall that it is not possible to directly expand the Windows XP
System partition. Am I wrong? Or, is there some roundabout way to
accomplish this?

TIA

Tom

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Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
news:p8mdnf9SFKHHstPfRVn-vA@comcast.com:

> Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony
> desktop. The machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)
>
> The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:
>
> 1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive
> letter, recovery stuff??
>
> 2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"
>
> 3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> What I want to do is
>
> - Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
> - Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive
> C: - Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore
> the contents of the "old Drive D:"
>

1) Install new drive.

2) Copy the files from D: to the new drive.

3) Using Partition Magic or similar:
a) Delete D: partition
b) Expand C: partition to fill the first disk

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In article <Xns962C7755829D5kxxx@194.168.222.124>, Kinell <w@invalid.jp> wrote:
>Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
>news:p8mdnf9SFKHHstPfRVn-vA@comcast.com:
>
>> Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony
>> desktop. The machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)
>>
>> The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:
>>
>> 1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive
>> letter, recovery stuff??
>>
>> 2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"
>>
>> 3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>>
>> What I want to do is
>>
>> - Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
>> - Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive
>> C: - Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore
>> the contents of the "old Drive D:"
>>
>
>1) Install new drive.
>
>2) Copy the files from D: to the new drive.
>
>3) Using Partition Magic or similar:
> a) Delete D: partition
> b) Expand C: partition to fill the first disk
>
>

Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager of do I need something special
like Partition Magic?

Tnx
Tom

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"Tomas" <Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am> wrote in message
news:a8KdnfNFhpcgtNLfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> In article <Xns962C7755829D5kxxx@194.168.222.124>, Kinell <w@invalid.jp>
> wrote:
>>Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
>>news:p8mdnf9SFKHHstPfRVn-vA@comcast.com:
>>
>>> Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony
>>> desktop. The machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)
>>>
>>> The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:
>>>
>>> 1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive
>>> letter, recovery stuff??
>>>
>>> 2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"
>>>
>>> 3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>
>>> What I want to do is
>>>
>>> - Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
>>> - Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive
>>> C: - Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore
>>> the contents of the "old Drive D:"
>>>
>>
>>1) Install new drive.
>>
>>2) Copy the files from D: to the new drive.
>>
>>3) Using Partition Magic or similar:
>> a) Delete D: partition
>> b) Expand C: partition to fill the first disk

> Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager

Nope, not without losing the data in the partition being expanded.

> of do I need something special like Partition Magic?

Yep, or any of the partition managers.

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Can't you just take like 20 gigs from the D:\ Drive then add it to the
C:\ Drive ?. Iam sure ive done that with Partition magic and the C:\
drive was fine ?

Could be wrong was LONG LONG ago :)



On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:31:49 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Tomas" <Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am> wrote in message
>news:a8KdnfNFhpcgtNLfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> In article <Xns962C7755829D5kxxx@194.168.222.124>, Kinell <w@invalid.jp>
>> wrote:
>>>Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
>>>news:p8mdnf9SFKHHstPfRVn-vA@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony
>>>> desktop. The machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)
>>>>
>>>> The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive
>>>> letter, recovery stuff??
>>>>
>>>> 2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"
>>>>
>>>> 3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> What I want to do is
>>>>
>>>> - Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
>>>> - Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive
>>>> C: - Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore
>>>> the contents of the "old Drive D:"
>>>>
>>>
>>>1) Install new drive.
>>>
>>>2) Copy the files from D: to the new drive.
>>>
>>>3) Using Partition Magic or similar:
>>> a) Delete D: partition
>>> b) Expand C: partition to fill the first disk
>
>> Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager
>
>Nope, not without losing the data in the partition being expanded.
>
>> of do I need something special like Partition Magic?
>
>Yep, or any of the partition managers.
>

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Digital Sheep <1@2> wrote in message
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> Can't you just take like 20 gigs from the
> D:\ Drive then add it to the C:\ Drive ?.

Sort of, but not with the basic XP without losing the data.

> Iam sure ive done that with Partition magic and the C:\ drive was fine ?

Yeah, thats what I meant in my last line.

> Could be wrong was LONG LONG ago :)

Nar, its essentially what a partition manager does.


> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:31:49 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tomas" <Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am> wrote in message
>>news:a8KdnfNFhpcgtNLfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>>> In article <Xns962C7755829D5kxxx@194.168.222.124>, Kinell <w@invalid.jp>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
>>>>news:p8mdnf9SFKHHstPfRVn-vA@comcast.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Background: Running Windows XP SP2 on a recent vintage Sony
>>>>> desktop. The machine came without an XP CD. (grumble)
>>>>>
>>>>> The system currently has one disk, partitioned as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) 6.01 GB NTFS "EISA compatible configuration" (no drive
>>>>> letter, recovery stuff??
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Drive C: 13.97 GB NTFS "System"
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Drive D: 133.41 GB NTFS
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> What I want to do is
>>>>>
>>>>> - Backup Drive D and then delete the partition
>>>>> - Expand Drive C to use the space previously occupied by Drive
>>>>> C: - Add a new/second disk to the system as Drive D: and restore
>>>>> the contents of the "old Drive D:"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1) Install new drive.
>>>>
>>>>2) Copy the files from D: to the new drive.
>>>>
>>>>3) Using Partition Magic or similar:
>>>> a) Delete D: partition
>>>> b) Expand C: partition to fill the first disk
>>
>>> Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager
>>
>>Nope, not without losing the data in the partition being expanded.
>>
>>> of do I need something special like Partition Magic?
>>
>>Yep, or any of the partition managers.
>>
>

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Digital Sheep <1@2> wrote in
news:8ltu419p0ahtitc48u1ua2jtu1ufvbfsmb@4ax.com:

> Can't you just take like 20 gigs from the D:\ Drive then add it
> to the C:\ Drive ?. Iam sure ive done that with Partition magic
> and the C:\ drive was fine ?
>

Yes, but how does that solve the problem in the OP?

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Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
news:a8KdnfNFhpcgtNLfRVn-uA@comcast.com:

> Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager of do I need
> something special like Partition Magic?
>

No. Please re-read my response.

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In article <Xns962DE3F9F52B0kxxx@62.253.162.201>, Kinell <w@invalid.jp> wrote:
>Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote in
>news:a8KdnfNFhpcgtNLfRVn-uA@comcast.com:
>
>> Can this be done with the Windows Disk Manager of do I need
>> something special like Partition Magic?
>>
>
>No. Please re-read my response.


Ok! I am now looking around for a decent partition manager. Thanks for
your responses.

Tom

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Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote:

> Ok! I am now looking around for a decent partition manager.
> Thanks for your responses.

http://www.7tools.de/pm/index.htm

7tools Partition Manager 2005

Downloadable for $30. So far I am loving it.

Never could get PartitionMagic 8 to work properly with Windows XP
operating system partitions. I could use the boot CD, but that is
inconvenient and slow.

A disk manager is like a power tool. It's fairly easy to use, it's
very powerful, and it can do serious harm. Always keep backup
copies of important files.

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So far people have recommended Partition Magic ($70) and 7 Tools
($30). If I want to expand the system partition without losing the data
current in it, what partition manager would you recommend? Any
decent free/share ware?

Thanks,

Tom

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"Tomas" <publiusus@yahoo.com> wrote:

> So far people have recommended Partition Magic ($70) and 7
> Tools ($30). If I want to expand the system partition without
> losing the data current in it, what partition manager would you
> recommend? Any decent free/share ware?

As already stated, I would not use PartitionMagic in Windows XP.
It is not fully functional.

Over the last two days, I have been giving Partition Manager a
workout. Apparently it has some minor bugs, trivial compared to
its function. Operations performed in pre-Windows mode are not
followed by a reboot, the program moves directly into Windows XP.
So you have to restart afterwards in order for some changes to be
recognized. There might be one other more serious looking much
which is solved also by simply rebooting. If you don't reboot,
things could get problematic. I guess a good rule would be "when
in doubt, reboot".

I'm still loving it, for $30. Remember to always keep a backup of
important files.

If you would like some real-time help with Partition Manager, feel
free to add me to your MSN messenger contacts
(lshaping...hotmail).

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In article <Xns9632A5BE9B814wisdomfolly@207.115.63.158>, John Doe <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote:
>"Tomas" <publiusus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> So far people have recommended Partition Magic ($70) and 7
>> Tools ($30). If I want to expand the system partition without
>> losing the data current in it, what partition manager would you
>> recommend? Any decent free/share ware?
>
>As already stated, I would not use PartitionMagic in Windows XP.
>It is not fully functional.
>
>Over the last two days, I have been giving Partition Manager a
>workout. Apparently it has some minor bugs, trivial compared to
>its function. Operations performed in pre-Windows mode are not
>followed by a reboot, the program moves directly into Windows XP.
>So you have to restart afterwards in order for some changes to be
>recognized. There might be one other more serious looking much
>which is solved also by simply rebooting. If you don't reboot,
>things could get problematic. I guess a good rule would be "when
>in doubt, reboot".
>
>I'm still loving it, for $30. Remember to always keep a backup of
>important files.
>
>If you would like some real-time help with Partition Manager, feel
>free to add me to your MSN messenger contacts
>(lshaping...hotmail).
>
>
Thank you for your kind offer. I do not use messenger, but if I get screwed
up I will be motivated to give it a try!

I am leaning towards using 7Tools.

Cheers,

Tom

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Sorry@NoSpam.I.Am (Tomas) wrote:

> Thank you for your kind offer. I do not use messenger, but if I
> get screwed up I will be motivated to give it a try!

Disk managers are awesome. No more formatting the disk when you
need to do something simple like resize a partition. It's a whole
new world, a disk/partition manager greatly increases your PC's
flexibility.

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"Tomas" <publiusus@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1112987152.061882.4490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> So far people have recommended Partition Magic ($70) and 7 Tools
> ($30). If I want to expand the system partition without losing the data
> current in it, what partition manager would you recommend? Any
> decent free/share ware?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom

Reply to Anonymous

google "diskpart"

Reply to Anonymous

In fact you needn't delete the data D partition.

You can shrink D partition to get unallocated space. Then move the unallocated space right close to C by moving the D partition. And then extend boot partition. All these can be done in a few minutes by Acronis Disk Director Suite which is price affordable $49.

BTW, this is a tutorial shows the details to use this program

http://www.geeksdo.com/extend-c-drive-pc-acronis.html

Reply to Techeasy

I have deleated a partition on my hard dirve and now I would like to expand C

Reply to GaffneryRich

There is a directly and easy way to expand C drive without data loss.

Windows provide a backup utility since Windows XP and you backup it with the built-in backup utility without third party backup tool.

After you have backed up your drive D, you may delete it.

To expand the C drive, there is a free tool which may ease this job without data loss and it is tested to works find. There is also no need to reinstall the OS.

Besides, it also supports RAID and dynamic disk. Here is a detailed solution

http://www.partition-tool.com/reso [...] -drive.htm

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