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Thanks Netiv.
As usual you childishly pick on the person rather than on the information
when you have been driven into a corner.
"Zvi Netiv" <support@replace_with_domain.com> wrote in message news:ffsp511godonqd9khcce0ot7f9krl5lh1m@4ax.com
> "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
> > "Zvi Netiv" <support@replace_with_domain.com> wrote in message
> > > "cope242" <waxtrax242@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried that software and was unable to fix the problem. Do you have
> > > > any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > No software can help if there is no access to the drive.
> >
> > Findpart saw it, so the bios saw it, so there was access.
>
> Your nit picking remind me of an anecdote about scientist being able to talk to
> a corpse hours after death, by means of electrodes they connected to the dead's
> brain. The only problem was that the stiff didn't answer when talked to ...
How very fitting, when one pictures you as the corpse ......
>
> > > The drive being recognized in the BIOS doesn't mean it is readable,
> >
> > Yes it does mean it is readable. At a minimum for the configuration sector.
> > Recognizing it at POST under a different name may be a different thing
> > altogether though. There will be no geometry data, for one.
>
> You understood perfectly what I meant and your sophistry doesn't help users.
You also understood perfectly what *I* meant and that is why you are now
desperately posturing how you are being deliberately misunderstood when
you know that you have been driven into a corner and see no way out of it.
>
> > > and bad sectors on track 0 don't mean it is not recoverable.
Right there: "bad sectors on track 0 don't mean it is not recoverable".
In other words a few bad sectors doesn't make a drive dead.
If the configuration sector can be read then the drive has read capability.
Hence the findpart report shows read capability, hence drive not dead.
No point in running Fdisk and risk more (Fdisk F6 sector) grief.
> >
> > He didn't say why it "was unable to fix the problem".
>
> He did provide sufficient info in an earlier post.
Yes, as to whether the drive is dead or not.
Nothing in relation to why Partition Doctor "was unable to fix the problem".
>
> > > The simplest method to test if the drive is recoverable is to run FDISK
> >
> > It is also the best way to cause more trouble.
>
> Where from do you take that nonsense?
More posturing from you Netiv, you know very well about the Fdisk F6 sectors.
You know very well about Svend's warnings to *not* to run *Fdisk* in case of
MBR (partiton tables) problems.
This is where you ran yourself into another corner again, Netiv, and you know it.
>
> > > off DOS boot (or FreeDOS) and see if the drive reports in FDISK.
> >
> > It may or may not because of the bad sector MBR.
>
> You are getting smarter ...
Yup. Contrary to you, Netiv.
>
> > The result then is inconclusive, dependent on what you consider "reports".
>
> You obviously never tried FDISK on a drive in that state.
What state exactly, that is still to be determined.
> Reports in my post is the inverse of "does not report"
> and there is no ambiguity to what that is,
Oh yes, obviously there is.
We already determined that the drive can read and is recognized by BIOS.
So it does 'report'.
Fdisk will see it but because of the bad MBR it will be ambiguous as to what
to make of Fdisk's 'report'.
> if you had hands-on experience,
The type that you are displaying here? No thanks.
> which you
> visibly lack.
Tall order that, on the internet, Netiv.
Keep posturing, you may actually convince someone, one day.
>
> > > If not, then the device is dead.
> >
> > Nonsense. Findpart saw it just fine.
> > Obviously the bios could read the configuration sector.
>
> Useless.
Posture!
It depends on other tests at POST whether the bios will
give it a device number and whether the OS will then see it.
If Findpart sees it, Partition Doctor sees it then Fdisk will see it.
It's obviously not dead in the sense that you are trying to determine
it's status.
> May I suggest that you keep studying specifications rather than
> confusing readers with pointless posts.
More posture.
>
> Regards,
Another lie, Netiv.
> Zvi
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