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Anonymous
May 16, 2005 3:12:14 AM

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x-no-archive: yes

riddick 1.1 patch has been released

obviously most of us will not need patches to riddick which
is such a very stable almost bug free game but i made this
warning to show to everyone criticizing vivendi that they
do support their pc games, the only thing we pc gamers have
to do is give our support back to them!
yes tribes vengeance was unfortunate but lets all work so
it will not happen again!
and btw its a PROPER patch! yes its in a single separate file
format and you can redistribute to all your friends and fellow
pc gamers that have a original/personal copy of the 2004 GOTY!
support pc games!
protect pc games!
buy pc games!

--
post made in a steam-free computer
i said "NO" to valve and steam

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Anonymous
May 16, 2005 11:38:58 AM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>riddick 1.1 patch has been released

Is this a HL or Source engine game? The trailer makes it look like a
Doom engine game... Is it any good? [Is it better than Doom3? I
found that disappointing, as well as too dark...]
Anonymous
May 16, 2005 3:55:33 PM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> obviously most of us will not need patches to riddick which
> is such a very stable almost bug free game

Well, that's the advantage of developing on the xBox first, it sort of has
to be right first time on a console.

> support pc games!
> protect pc games!
> buy pc games!

<wipes spittle flecks off glasses>

Relax the head there fella, or you'll give yourself a thromby.
Related resources
May 16, 2005 6:08:29 PM

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<William P. N. Smith> wrote in message
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> "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>
> Is this a HL or Source engine game? The trailer makes it look like a
> Doom engine game... Is it any good? [Is it better than Doom3? I
> found that disappointing, as well as too dark...]
>

Starbreeze engine I believe...

Worth getting and playing but be aware it not a straight FPS. Google and
read a few reviews.
Anonymous
May 16, 2005 8:47:43 PM

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:55:33 +0100, "One Punch Mickey"
<fantantiddlyspan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> obviously most of us will not need patches to riddick which
>> is such a very stable almost bug free game
>
>Well, that's the advantage of developing on the xBox first, it sort of has
>to be right first time on a console.
>
>> support pc games!
>> protect pc games!
>> buy pc games!
>
><wipes spittle flecks off glasses>
>
>Relax the head there fella, or you'll give yourself a thromby.
>

The poor fellow had one already... in his brain.

John Lewis


>
May 17, 2005 3:48:26 AM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>
> obviously most of us will not need patches to riddick which
> is such a very stable almost bug free game but i made this
> warning to show to everyone criticizing vivendi that they
> do support their pc games, the only thing we pc gamers have
> to do is give our support back to them!
> yes tribes vengeance was unfortunate but lets all work so
> it will not happen again!
> and btw its a PROPER patch! yes its in a single separate file
> format and you can redistribute to all your friends and fellow
> pc gamers that have a original/personal copy of the 2004 GOTY!
> support pc games!
> protect pc games!
> buy pc games!

Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and bug-ridden
games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly vivendi are.

Oh well...another company to put onto the "we dont care about our customers"
pile.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 6:15:24 AM

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>
>>
>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>> vivendi are.
>>
>
snip
>
> John Lewis

Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
rails. But it's still a great one to play.

American McGee's ALICE. :) 

McG.
May 17, 2005 6:15:25 AM

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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>> vivendi are.
>>>
>>
> snip
>>
>> John Lewis
>
> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my years
> of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still does, great
> game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on rails. But it's
> still a great one to play.
>
> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>
> McG.

I had more jaw dropping experiences playing Alice then I had playing
Farcry,HL2,or Riddick. The game ran flawless and was just a total mind
blowing game. And it was a blast to play. One of my all time favorites. JLC
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 11:45:18 AM

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and bug-ridden
>>games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly vivendi are.
> Now, let me see... Riddick has been released unpatched about 4 months
> (release...12/07/2004) for the PC and many have finished it already
> without any problems.
>
> The first 2 patches have just been released.
>
> These patches are both in the "trivial but very useful" class. Nothing
>
> that affects the huge majority of players. Seems as if the game was
> excellently tested. One of the very, very few these days. Riddick for
> the PC is not at all a straight-across port from the Xbox. New levels,
> new secrets, comprehensive graphics and menu updates, PC-style
> controls.

When was patch #1 released? Riddick unpatched won't play on any OpenGL
version other than like 1.2. That's a pretty big bug in my book.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 5:40:40 PM

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McGrandpa wrote:
> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>><jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>vivendi are.
>>>
>>
> snip
>
>>John Lewis
>
>
> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>
> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>
> McG.
>
>

I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.

Those were the days when people didn't have broadband for instant quick
fixes.

--
Walter Mitty
-
Useless, waste of money research of the day : http://tinyurl.com/3tdeu
" Format wars could 'confuse users'"
http://www.tinyurl.com
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 5:40:41 PM

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Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>McGrandpa wrote:
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 

>I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.

IIRC one of the original Star Wars Jedi Knight was working out of the
box. Unfortunately, gamers will still buy boxes with non-functional
code that needs to be patched before they'll play at all, and games
companies are more than happy to take advantage of us by shipping
unfinished games.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 6:24:06 PM

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"JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0tcie.90025$hu5.66147@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>
>>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> John Lewis
>>
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>
>> McG.
>
> I had more jaw dropping experiences playing Alice then I had playing
> Farcry,HL2,or Riddick. The game ran flawless and was just a total mind
> blowing game. And it was a blast to play. One of my all time
> favorites. JLC

The game was imaginative and innovative, looked great, characters were
really well done. And the score was excellent. Talk about a game with
presence and ambiance :)  All that using a very old story thats been
abused much in the last half century. American did good, I hope he got
very well off from his effort!
McG.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 6:25:53 PM

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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>
>>>
>> snip
>>
>>> John Lewis
>>
>>
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
> I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.
>
> Those were the days when people didn't have broadband for instant
> quick fixes.

I'll have to install the trilogy and see. I've got a couple old cd's
with a lot of Descent stuff on it. Got me wondering now.
McG.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 7:58:50 PM

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<William P. N. Smith> wrote in message
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> Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>
>> I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.
>
> IIRC one of the original Star Wars Jedi Knight was working out of the
> box. Unfortunately, gamers will still buy boxes with non-functional
> code that needs to be patched before they'll play at all, and games
> companies are more than happy to take advantage of us by shipping
> unfinished games.

Yep, and the games that work well right out of the box and play good
start to finish are true gems. I'd love to see something else by
McGee. I'd buy it just because HE did it. I love it when developers
are really picky about what gets out the door!
McG.
Anonymous
May 17, 2005 8:21:02 PM

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On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:18 -0500, "Kroagnon" <kroagnon@kroagnon.com>
wrote:

>
>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net...
>
>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and bug-ridden
>>>games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly vivendi are.
>> Now, let me see... Riddick has been released unpatched about 4 months
>> (release...12/07/2004) for the PC and many have finished it already
>> without any problems.
>>
>> The first 2 patches have just been released.
>>
>> These patches are both in the "trivial but very useful" class. Nothing
>>
>> that affects the huge majority of players. Seems as if the game was
>> excellently tested. One of the very, very few these days. Riddick for
>> the PC is not at all a straight-across port from the Xbox. New levels,
>> new secrets, comprehensive graphics and menu updates, PC-style
>> controls.
>
>When was patch #1 released?

Just now. No mention of OpenGL

> Riddick unpatched won't play on any OpenGL
>version other than like 1.2. That's a pretty big bug in my book.
>

What are you trying to do... run the game without DX9.0, or what ?

If so, sorry, the box says "Direct9.0 or better" AND "OpenGL1.5-
compatible video CARD, with programmable shaders".

John Lewis
Anonymous
May 18, 2005 3:37:31 AM

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Descent, you were in diapers then... :) ... That was a great game... I
got so sick playing it for the first few hours.... That damned boss in
level 7 was a bitch....

On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:40:40 +0200, Walter Mittens
<mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:

>McGrandpa wrote:
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>><jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>>bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>>vivendi are.
>>>>
>>>
>> snip
>>
>>>John Lewis
>>
>>
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>
>> McG.
>>
>>
>
>I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.
>
>Those were the days when people didn't have broadband for instant quick
>fixes.



Cat Feet / Buttered Toast Theorum

When a cat is dropped it always lands on its feet.
When buttered toast is dropped it always lands with
the buttered side facing down. If a piece of buttered
toast was attached to the back of a cat, when dropped,
the cat/buttered toast combination should hover, spinning
just above the ground, as it tries unsuccessfully to
resolve the inevitable conflict of non-scientific
certainties.
This in itself might be fun to watch but there is
a serious point to be made here... What if giant
arrangements of buttered toast cats were linked
(probably by their tails) to banks of generators?
Perhaps enough electricity could be produced to
help resolve the growing world energy crisis.
Anonymous
May 18, 2005 6:00:06 AM

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"John Lewis"

snippety

>> Riddick unpatched won't play on any OpenGL
>> version other than like 1.2. That's a pretty big bug in my book.
>>
>
> What are you trying to do... run the game without DX9.0, or what ?
>
> If so, sorry, the box says "Direct9.0 or better" AND "OpenGL1.5-
> compatible video CARD, with programmable shaders".
>
> John Lewis

I hope the game is pretty good. I'll likely buy it tomorrow. Just
found out watching The Chronicles of Riddick that there is a lot of
backstory to be found in the game and extra materials. I also wanna
find Pitch Black and Dark Fury. :) 
Yeah, I'm into the Riddick stuff.
I think it oughtta work alright on a 3gHz 2 g dual channel and 6800GT.
McG.
Anonymous
May 18, 2005 6:03:51 AM

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"Cannon Fodder" <gonfishn39@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Descent, you were in diapers then... :) ... That was a great game... I
> got so sick playing it for the first few hours.... That damned boss in
> level 7 was a bitch....

oh YEAH?!?! Hey, I got to preview the very first playable Descent
ENGINE....on an Atari 1040 ST!!! The guy that wrote it sent it to me
to check out. I thought it was so cool a thing, using just a mouse and
keys to FLY (Descent style).

McG. :o )

>
> On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:40:40 +0200, Walter Mittens
> <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> John Lewis
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>>
>>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>>
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.
>>
>> Those were the days when people didn't have broadband for instant
>> quick fixes.
>
>
>
> Cat Feet / Buttered Toast Theorum
>
> When a cat is dropped it always lands on its feet.
> When buttered toast is dropped it always lands with
> the buttered side facing down. If a piece of buttered
> toast was attached to the back of a cat, when dropped,
> the cat/buttered toast combination should hover, spinning
> just above the ground, as it tries unsuccessfully to
> resolve the inevitable conflict of non-scientific
> certainties.
> This in itself might be fun to watch but there is
> a serious point to be made here... What if giant
> arrangements of buttered toast cats were linked
> (probably by their tails) to banks of generators?
> Perhaps enough electricity could be produced to
> help resolve the growing world energy crisis.
Anonymous
May 18, 2005 10:59:19 AM

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On Wed, 18 May 2005 02:00:06 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:


>I hope the game is pretty good.

For $19.99 it is a real steal. Great story, more focussed and coherent
than the Riddick movies, IMHO of course. And some on-line places have
the game for $12.99. I hope you enjoy it - I did a lot. Do try to
hunt down all the 'secrets' . Some of them are very informative indeed
about the making of the game. You do need some stomach for the prison
language.....

> I'll likely buy it tomorrow. Just
>found out watching The Chronicles of Riddick that there is a lot of
>backstory to be found in the game and extra materials. I also wanna
>find Pitch Black and Dark Fury. :) 
>Yeah, I'm into the Riddick stuff.
>I think it oughtta work alright on a 3gHz 2 g dual channel and 6800GT.
>McG.
>

No problem, I would think, but do download and install the V1.1patch,
as it claims to fix problems with the latest nVidia cards -- no
description of the problems. Also it has updated models ( and
gamepad support, that you probably do not need...).

V1.0 Runs just fine with my (non-XT) BFG 5900 and 3.2G Prescott.
I have not installed the V1.1 patch yet.

John Lewis

>
Anonymous
May 19, 2005 5:06:22 PM

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In article <1116223934.258002.255410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, steamKILLER wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>
> obviously most of us will not need patches to riddick which
> is such a very stable almost bug free game but i made this
> warning to show to everyone criticizing vivendi that they
> do support their pc games, the only thing we pc gamers have
> to do is give our support back to them!
> yes tribes vengeance was unfortunate but lets all work so
> it will not happen again!
> and btw its a PROPER patch! yes its in a single separate file
> format and you can redistribute to all your friends and fellow
> pc gamers that have a original/personal copy of the 2004 GOTY!
> support pc games!
> protect pc games!
> buy pc games!

I can understand why some sound was stuttering on my PC, and even
the two times when the screen went blank at I just listened to
linking dialogue when the movie was supposed to be shown.

But the hard reboot on Quick Load was no good.

Finished the game cos the hard reboot only happened during a
certain part of the game (from pit to cryo pyramid), but frankly
the attitude of vivendi on patching until this point, has made
damned sure I won't buy another game from them.

Its sad, I quite enjoyed the game. Apart from reboots obviously.

Smid
Anonymous
May 19, 2005 9:51:11 PM

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On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:06:22 +0000 (UTC), Smid
<smidllllllNichSpammo.removelstoo@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:


>I can understand why some sound was stuttering on my PC, and even
>the two times when the screen went blank at I just listened to
>linking dialogue when the movie was supposed to be shown.
>
>But the hard reboot on Quick Load was no good.
>
>Finished the game cos the hard reboot only happened during a
>certain part of the game (from pit to cryo pyramid), but frankly
>the attitude of vivendi on patching until this point,


Nothing really to do with Vivendi, the patch came from Starbreeze.
Vivendi might spend a little time in their own QC for complex patches,
but these were very trivial, and certainly did not address your
problem anyway... see below.

>has made
>damned sure I won't buy another game from them.
>

A fine choice by a free man... make sure that you read
the game-box very carefully before your next PC or console
game purchase...

>Its sad, I quite enjoyed the game. Apart from reboots obviously.
>

Seems as if you might have had something nasty running in background,
interfering with Riddick. ( The effect of nasty b-g programs can vary
from game-to-game, from no-effect to erratic crashes, especially if
they are contending for memory-resources ) Did you ever try turning
off all Startup Programs with msconfig before running Riddick ??

John Lewis


> Smid
>
Anonymous
May 20, 2005 11:56:34 AM

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>When was patch #1 released?
> Just now. No mention of OpenGL
>
>> Riddick unpatched won't play on any OpenGL
>>version other than like 1.2. That's a pretty big bug in my book.
>>
>
> What are you trying to do... run the game without DX9.0, or what ?
>
> If so, sorry, the box says "Direct9.0 or better" AND "OpenGL1.5-
> compatible video CARD, with programmable shaders".

I'm not sure of the version number but it will not run on the newer NVidia
drivers that have OpenGL 2.0. Stupid game only looks for the current OpenGL
version and paid no head to the newer version that was right around the
corner. That would be like a DX8 game looking for DX8 and refusing to work
on DX9 if you need a proprietary Microsoft Monopoly comparison.
Anonymous
May 20, 2005 9:49:24 PM

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 07:56:34 -0500, "Kroagnon" <kroagnon@kroagnon.com>
wrote:

>
>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:428a130b.554047@news.verizon.net...
>
>>>When was patch #1 released?
>> Just now. No mention of OpenGL
>>
>>> Riddick unpatched won't play on any OpenGL
>>>version other than like 1.2. That's a pretty big bug in my book.
>>>
>>
>> What are you trying to do... run the game without DX9.0, or what ?
>>
>> If so, sorry, the box says "Direct9.0 or better" AND "OpenGL1.5-
>> compatible video CARD, with programmable shaders".
>
>I'm not sure of the version number but it will not run on the newer NVidia
>drivers that have OpenGL 2.0.

The latest 32-bit official driver releases on the nVidia site (at
least for Win XP ) is 71.89, OpenGL 1.5. Corresponding
64-bit driver 71.84, OpenGL1.5.

You are not trying to run a beta-driver by any chance ?

>Stupid game only looks for the current OpenGL

If you have PROOF that is what is really happening, is not just a bug
in a beta-driver, and is still happening after you load the V1.1 patch
(which is claimed to take care of "problems with later nVidia cards"),
you might want to email Starbreeze's Chief Technical Officer with all
the details :-

Magnus Högdahl
magnus.hogdahl@starbreeze.com

John Lewis

>version and paid no head to the newer version that was right around the
>corner. That would be like a DX8 game looking for DX8 and refusing to work
>on DX9 if you need a proprietary Microsoft Monopoly comparison.
>
>
Anonymous
May 20, 2005 10:43:12 PM

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"JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5ZednT8KJ7Ud_xTfRVn-tw@comcast.com
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0tcie.90025$hu5.66147@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>
>>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> John Lewis
>>
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>
>> McG.
>
> I had more jaw dropping experiences playing Alice then I had playing
> Farcry,HL2,or Riddick. The game ran flawless and was just a total mind
> blowing game. And it was a blast to play. One of my all time
> favorites. JLC

I agree. I didn't have to wait for something eye-opening either. The
score is amazing. The graphics and animations are great. Pretty
incredible for the games of its day, and still looks better than most.
I think it's time for another replay of it :) 
McG.
Anonymous
May 21, 2005 12:23:25 AM

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:18:26 -0700, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0tcie.90025$hu5.66147@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>
>>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> John Lewis
>>
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my years
>> of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still does, great
>> game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on rails. But it's
>> still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>
>> McG.
>
>I had more jaw dropping experiences playing Alice then I had playing
>Farcry,HL2,or Riddick. The game ran flawless and was just a total mind
>blowing game. And it was a blast to play. One of my all time favorites. JLC
>

this 1 seems to have slipped by me unnoticed. perhaps i was educating
myself with instructional videos or something. is it based on the
alice, as in wonderland & looking glass? [2 of my fave novels to this
day]. is it old gold? is it still available? system requirements?

dr ratt

------------------------------------------------------------
gary: so there's no chance we can be together?
lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
gary: you know i can't promise that.
lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
gary: i promise. i will never die.
Anonymous
May 21, 2005 4:38:43 AM

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"dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a1es81h2cu3otftampiu6n0p08ks6o2ten@4ax.com
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:18:26 -0700, "JLC" <j.jc@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0tcie.90025$hu5.66147@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:428928f9.1503533@news.verizon.net
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:26 +0100, "James"
>>>> <jamesspamtrap@mourby.plusspam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> riddick 1.1 patch has been released
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah dear. Another publisher keen to rush out unfinished and
>>>>> bug-ridden games! Just goes to show how un-customer friendly
>>>>> vivendi are.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> John Lewis
>>>
>>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all
>>> my years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great,
>>> still does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and
>>> heavily on rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>>
>>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 
>>>
>>> McG.
>>
>> I had more jaw dropping experiences playing Alice then I had playing
>> Farcry,HL2,or Riddick. The game ran flawless and was just a total
>> mind blowing game. And it was a blast to play. One of my all time
>> favorites. JLC
>>
>
> this 1 seems to have slipped by me unnoticed. perhaps i was educating
> myself with instructional videos or something. is it based on the
> alice, as in wonderland & looking glass? [2 of my fave novels to this
> day]. is it old gold? is it still available? system requirements?

It appears that Electronic Arts has dropped support of Alice entirely.
There are gamesites with good info on Alice though. Here's one:
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/alice/

It is definitely based on Alice in Wonderland. This is the darker side
of things though. You could consider this Alice a sequel to the first
two stories. It IS Alice, and the Hare. And, well, that CAT :)  Not to
fear, it seems all the characters are accounted for in one way or
another.
I have the original retail game in front of me, box also. System
requirements are very light by todays standards. It's 5 years old and a
DX7 game. 32 meg OpenGl capable vid card (based on Quake3 engine, and
you'll have a hard time believing that!). 500 mHz AMD Athlon or P3 or
faster, 128 megs ram or more, around 700 megs total of HD space.
If you go to the website, click on BOOKS in the menu on the left.
You can get the game now for less than $10 USD. I still see it in
stores, sealed jewel case, no box. The only patch released for it was
for Matrox vid cards.
HIH,
McG.
>
> dr ratt
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> gary: so there's no chance we can be together?
> lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
> gary: you know i can't promise that.
> lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
> gary: i promise. i will never die.
Anonymous
May 21, 2005 2:06:50 PM

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:428e2041.8937026@news.verizon.net...

>>I'm not sure of the version number but it will not run on the newer NVidia
>>drivers that have OpenGL 2.0.
> The latest 32-bit official driver releases on the nVidia site (at
> least for Win XP ) is 71.89, OpenGL 1.5. Corresponding
> 64-bit driver 71.84, OpenGL1.5.
>
> You are not trying to run a beta-driver by any chance ?

Yea it was a beta driver. The problem is not with the driver, the game is
hard coded to not run if OpenGL version is >1.x (and gives an error message
to that effect).. There have been posts in either this or the NVidia
newsgroup if I recall.

The reason I mention it is because sooner or later that OpenGL 2.0 ICD will
be standard on both NVidia and ATI drivers. If this isn't patched you won't
be able to play the game.

> If you have PROOF that is what is really happening, is not just a bug
> in a beta-driver, and is still happening after you load the V1.1 patch
> (which is claimed to take care of "problems with later nVidia cards"),
> you might want to email Starbreeze's Chief Technical Officer with all
> the details :-
>
> Magnus Högdahl
> magnus.hogdahl@starbreeze.com

Starbreeze was already aware of it according to posts on the NVidia forums.
I'll have to see if the patch fixes it.
Anonymous
May 21, 2005 3:44:29 PM

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On Sat, 21 May 2005 00:38:43 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
excellent, thanks.

dr ratt

------------------------------------------------------------
gary: so there's no chance we can be together?
lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
gary: you know i can't promise that.
lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
gary: i promise. i will never die.
Anonymous
May 21, 2005 9:45:46 PM

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Thusly "Kroagnon" <kroagnon@kroagnon.com> Spake Unto All:

>Yea it was a beta driver. The problem is not with the driver, the game is
>hard coded to not run if OpenGL version is >1.x (and gives an error message
>to that effect)..

Hmmm... Is OpenGL not backwards compatible, or did they do the classic
windows error of doing a "equal to" instead of a "equal to or greater
than" version check?
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 9:22:51 PM

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 11:38:44 +0000 (UTC), Smid
<smidllllllNichSpammo.removelstoo@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <428e0167.1037200@news.verizon.net>, John Lewis wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC), Smid
>><smidllllllNichSpammo.removelstoo@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>Its sad, I quite enjoyed the game. Apart from reboots obviously.
>>>>

>> No, according to you, your PC rebooted in a certain-area of the game
>> on Quick Reload...maybe corrupted-saves due to a program-conflict ?
>> You had warning that all was not well with the audio and blank-video
>> problems you were experiencing. I have not experienced any of these
>> problems with Riddick.
>
>Not corrupted. Loaded the same files after reboot.
>
>> When I am playing games (or running heavy applications) and get any
>> such problems, I carry out checks in the following order:-
>>
>> (a) Latest available application patches loaded ?
>>
>> (b) Reboot with all background programs killed - problem gone ?
>> Then start turning on the background programs one by one until
>> the culprit emerges. I have canned several misbehaving background
>> applications in the past year.
>>
>> (c) Check all driver versions used are up-to-date and none have
>> documented problems with the target application , especially the
>> video drivers..
>
>Indeed. I do this too. Worked fine for Doom III, Far Cry and the like.
>

And you did item (b) as well ????? --- did your audio and blank-video
problems go away.... ? Did they change, improve, or what ??

You had better find the source of these problems first..........

>>>I am a software developer, and I know that software is never
>>>perfect. So a no patch attitude is just plain wrong...
>>
>> I do not recall either VU or Starbreeze ever saying there would be no
>> patches. Patches are normally generated in response to known and
>> replicatable problems either with game-play or functionality and/or to
>> add some nice features. Obviously, very few have had your problems
>> with the game.
>>
>> The V1.1 patch deals with some issues with the very latest nVidia
>> cards and adds some extra polish features. Since the game has been out
>> 4 months, is now budget-priced, and probably well past peak demand -
>> the developer could have said "screw-it, I'm too busy with my new
>> projects", as many others have done, even for games that desperately
>> needed patching.
>>
>> As a software developer, systematically troubleshooting a sw problem
>> in a neutral fashion should be second nature for you. In
>> troubleshooting a PC system problem, making an initial assumption that
>> the newly-loaded program which first triggers the problem (such as
>> Riddick) is the SOURCE of the problem instead of just the STIMULUS is
>> a classic cardinal error in software-evaluation and QC-testing. Maybe
>> the newly-loaded program demands some extra resources marked
>> as available, but actually not properly-freed by another program ?
>>
>> So I would suggest a systematic trouble-shooting of your system with
>> Riddick V1.1 as the stimulus. And after cleaning-up your system you
>> could check both V1.0 and V1.1 for your elusive crashes. No need for
>> me to tell a software professional how to do all this.
>
>I'm sorry, I said I was a software developer, not a paid beta tester
>of Starbreeze.
>

Do you ever test your own software ? Or do you let somebody else find
your problems ? Your postings seem to be full of opinions and short on
investigation. It might be a residual bug when running under Win 2000,

either in the game or your drivers. Have you loaded WinXP and checked
for same bug? If I was using my Win 2000 computer to play games, I
would dual-boot Win XP (Home) at least. Since Win 2000 game-players
are very much in the minority and the beta-testers for Win2000/XP
games will probably be composed of the same population balance,
a bug such as this could have slipped through.

Anyway, you could try e-mailing Starbreeze's Chief Technical Officer:-

Magnus Högdahl
magnus.hogdahl@starbreeze.com

giving him all details of your system hardware, peripherals, OSversion
and all driver versions, motherboard, video, audio and the exact
description of your crash.

However, before doing that you MUST re-run the program
will ALL background programs turned OFF and check that
the problem still exists.

John Lewis

> Smid
>
Anonymous
June 7, 2005 6:26:52 PM

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Walter Mitty wrote:
>> Kind of on the aside here; I've found ONE 3D type PC game in all my
>> years of playing them that was never even patched. Ran great, still
>> does, great game too. It's a OneThru type of game, and heavily on
>> rails. But it's still a great one to play.
>>
>> American McGee's ALICE. :) 

> I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.

Actually, there was at least one patch for Descent 1 and IIRC there were
about 3. The one I definitely remember was to reduce the difficulty of
defeating the Level 7 boss, which even after the patch was still quite
difficult.

BZB
Anonymous
June 8, 2005 1:42:07 AM

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Yeah, wasn't that a bitch.... I played that level over and over for 2
or 3 weeks and could never get through until they released that
patch.... I had finally decided to use a cheat code and my heart sank
when that voice came on booming out "CHEATER!!!!!" and I lost all my
accumulated points....

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:26:52 -0700, "Bill Z Bubble"
<billzbubb@netscape.fishing.net> wrote:

>> I dont ever recall installing a patch for Descent either.
>
>Actually, there was at least one patch for Descent 1 and IIRC there were
>about 3. The one I definitely remember was to reduce the difficulty of
>defeating the Level 7 boss, which even after the patch was still quite
>difficult.
>
>BZB
>



Cat Feet / Buttered Toast Theorum

When a cat is dropped it always lands on its feet.
When buttered toast is dropped it always lands with
the buttered side facing down. If a piece of buttered
toast was attached to the back of a cat, when dropped,
the cat/buttered toast combination should hover, spinning
just above the ground, as it tries unsuccessfully to
resolve the inevitable conflict of non-scientific
certainties.
This in itself might be fun to watch but there is
a serious point to be made here... What if giant
arrangements of buttered toast cats were linked
(probably by their tails) to banks of generators?
Perhaps enough electricity could be produced to
help resolve the growing world energy crisis.
Anonymous
June 8, 2005 2:52:27 AM

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Cannon Fodder wrote:
> Yeah, wasn't that a bitch.... I played that level over and over for 2
> or 3 weeks and could never get through until they released that
> patch.... I had finally decided to use a cheat code and my heart sank
> when that voice came on booming out "CHEATER!!!!!" and I lost all my
> accumulated points....
>
ROTFLMAO
I just love it when the developers does stunts like that

Btw The best copyprotetion I have ever seen in any game was in
Starflight
Before leaving the commandcenter you need to enter a passcode
The code can be found in the manual
Right seen before and after
But you could type in anything you'd like and take off!

After ten/fifteen minutes you'll be caught and surrounded by the
spacepolice
If a correct passcode is not given you'd be shot out of space not
matter what armour/weaponary your ship has

Hehe good one :-)

rgds/Peter
!