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Anonymous
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July 9, 2005 10:40:48 AM

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I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg file
from my internal IDE hard drive to the external drive, it takes
forever. The progress box showing the copy or move estimates it will
take over an hour. However, if I try to copy or move the equivalent
size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the
transfer takes place in less than a minute. I have another computer
with usb 2.0 drive that does not have this issue.

Anybody have any idea what might be going on? Is there a problem with
the Simpletech, possibly? I don't see why the copy/move is so different
in terms of time depending on the type of file.

Thanks.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 9, 2005 6:59:47 PM

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thanks. I sheepishly confess I was worried about the particular USB
port. It hadn't been in use and I'm not sure I got all the dust out of
it. I will try another and report back. It's just such a mess in back
of the computer, with wires and all, that once I get something
installed, I'm loath to mess with it but I will

I'm using XP on both computer. What do you mean by USB patch for xp?
I'd do that but I'd hate to do a clean install. None of my other usb
devices seem to have a problem.

Rod Speed wrote:
> latichever@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
> > problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg file
> > from my internal IDE hard drive to the external drive, it takes
> > forever. The progress box showing the copy or move estimates it will
> > take over an hour. However, if I try to copy or move the equivalent
> > size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the
> > transfer takes place in less than a minute. I have another computer
> > with usb 2.0 drive that does not have this issue.
>
> > Anybody have any idea what might be going on?
>
> Most likely a problem with a particular USB port. Can you try another ?
>
> > Is there a problem with the Simpletech, possibly?
>
> The check for that would be to try the Simpletech on the
> other PC which works fine with a different USB drive.
>
> > I don't see why the copy/move is so different
> > in terms of time depending on the type of file.
>
> You can get quirks like that with some USB ports.
> That appears to be mostly a driver issue, but no
> one who has got an effect like that has tried that
> possibility carefully, a clean OS install and a careful
> and systematic use of drivers to see what the problem is.
>
> You also dont say what OS you are running, some of the
> dinosaurs like 98 can have a problem because of the need
> for drivers which means you need to use what the drive
> manufacturer supplys. And XP needs a patch applied for USB2.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 9, 2005 7:20:47 PM

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Actually, dust was not the problem. I tried several ports and got the
message that "a high speed mass storage device was plugged into a
non-high speed port, click the message for more info." But when I click
it, it shows me a list of usb ports and says they're high speed. I go
to device manager and everything is listed as ok. I hope this is not a
problem with a nighmarish solution. I'll call Dell and see what they
have to say. But do you have nay ideas? What about that USB2 patch you
spoke about. Thanks.
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Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 9, 2005 8:05:24 PM

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I've done a tad of research and I've noticed that some people may have
this problem in XP when their bios is set to "legacy" rather than
"high-speed." When I have a chance I'll check that.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 10, 2005 8:47:38 AM

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latichever@hotmail.com wrote:

> I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
> problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg file
> from my internal IDE hard drive to the external drive, it takes
> forever. The progress box showing the copy or move estimates it will
> take over an hour. However, if I try to copy or move the equivalent
> size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the
> transfer takes place in less than a minute. I have another computer
> with usb 2.0 drive that does not have this issue.

> Anybody have any idea what might be going on?

Most likely a problem with a particular USB port. Can you try another ?

> Is there a problem with the Simpletech, possibly?

The check for that would be to try the Simpletech on the
other PC which works fine with a different USB drive.

> I don't see why the copy/move is so different
> in terms of time depending on the type of file.

You can get quirks like that with some USB ports.
That appears to be mostly a driver issue, but no
one who has got an effect like that has tried that
possibility carefully, a clean OS install and a careful
and systematic use of drivers to see what the problem is.

You also dont say what OS you are running, some of the
dinosaurs like 98 can have a problem because of the need
for drivers which means you need to use what the drive
manufacturer supplys. And XP needs a patch applied for USB2.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 10, 2005 8:47:39 AM

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latichever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120916447.981526.148760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
> problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg file
> size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the

You said...

1) a 2 gigabyte mpeg file (= singular)
vs
2) (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files (= plural)

Perhaps this difference has a lot to do with it. How much memory do you have
in your PC?
Try comparing _a_ 256MByte mpg file with _a_ 256M Word file.

What do you think Rod?

Colin
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 10, 2005 1:10:01 PM

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latichever@hotmail.com wrote:

> thanks. I sheepishly confess I was worried about the particular USB
> port. It hadn't been in use and I'm not sure I got all the dust out of
> it. I will try another and report back. It's just such a mess in back
> of the computer, with wires and all, that once I get something
> installed, I'm loath to mess with it but I will

It wont be dust, but its still worth trying another.

> I'm using XP on both computer. What do you mean by USB patch for xp?
> I'd do that but I'd hate to do a clean install. None of my other usb
> devices seem to have a problem.

You dont need to do a clean install, just apply the relevant update.

Go to the Windows update site http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
check for updates. It will offer you the update if your system needs that.


> Rod Speed wrote:
>> latichever@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
>>> problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg
>>> file from my internal IDE hard drive to the external drive, it takes
>>> forever. The progress box showing the copy or move estimates it will
>>> take over an hour. However, if I try to copy or move the equivalent
>>> size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the
>>> transfer takes place in less than a minute. I have another computer
>>> with usb 2.0 drive that does not have this issue.
>>
>>> Anybody have any idea what might be going on?
>>
>> Most likely a problem with a particular USB port. Can you try
>> another ?
>>
>>> Is there a problem with the Simpletech, possibly?
>>
>> The check for that would be to try the Simpletech on the
>> other PC which works fine with a different USB drive.
>>
>>> I don't see why the copy/move is so different
>>> in terms of time depending on the type of file.
>>
>> You can get quirks like that with some USB ports.
>> That appears to be mostly a driver issue, but no
>> one who has got an effect like that has tried that
>> possibility carefully, a clean OS install and a careful
>> and systematic use of drivers to see what the problem is.
>>
>> You also dont say what OS you are running, some of the
>> dinosaurs like 98 can have a problem because of the need
>> for drivers which means you need to use what the drive
>> manufacturer supplys. And XP needs a patch applied for USB2.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 10, 2005 1:12:58 PM

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latichever@hotmail.com wrote:

> Actually, dust was not the problem.

Yeah, it wouldnt be that.

> I tried several ports and got the message that
> "a high speed mass storage device was plugged into a
> non-high speed port, click the message for more info."

Not all USB ports are USB2.

> But when I click it, it shows me a list of usb ports and says they're
> high speed. I go to device manager and everything is listed as ok.
> I hope this is not a problem with a nighmarish solution.

Nar, its readily fixable.

> I'll call Dell and see what they have to say. But do you have nay ideas?

I'd apply the Microsoft USB2 update if the Windows Update site offers
it and wouldnt bother with Dell unless there is still a problem after that.

> What about that USB2 patch you spoke about.

See the other post.
Anonymous
a b G Storage
July 10, 2005 1:15:54 PM

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CWatters <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
> latichever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1120916447.981526.148760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I just hooked up a new Simpletech usb 2.0 drive. I'm having an odd
>> problem. If I try to copy or move, for example, a 2 gigabyte mpeg
>> file size (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files--pdf, word, jpeg, etc.--the
>
> You said...
>
> 1) a 2 gigabyte mpeg file (= singular)
> vs
> 2) (2 gigabytes) of non-mpeg files (= plural)
>
> Perhaps this difference has a lot to do with it. How much memory do
> you have in your PC?
> Try comparing _a_ 256MByte mpg file with _a_ 256M Word file.

> What do you think Rod?

I assumed he meant he doesnt see the problem
with any other 2 gigabyte non mpeg file.

The time is still much too long with a 2GB mpeg file.

And he doesnt see the problem on another PC.
!